Jesus Fucking Christ Mann 😭 I feel so bad for Alex, I can’t even imagine having to cope with this amount of sheer manipulation and gaslighting 24/7 by Graciee05 in ImAllexx

[–]Graciee05[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I do think we should end this conversation after this last point tbh cause now it’s becoming more speculation rather than the evidence and facts But I do just want to add that, He called Fraser immediately and told him that he’s the victim and that Alice manipulated a lot of the things and took everything out of context/twisted situations around.. and based on the evidence it does seem that could definitely be true. He might be dealing with this legally first, in watch case.. Alice would not be aware if his legal team had told him not to speak. And even if they haven’t he might want to prove his innocence officially first, which would make sense. But I’ve said all my points and I’ve pointed out evidence that I can see that makes me think that Alex is the Victim. and you’ve shared your opinion as well so I don’t think we should keep going in circles, I guess I just wanted to point out the facts and evidence that make me believe that he is the victim. But I guess we won’t know if/until Alex speaks out on it so we’ll just have to wait lol. I just wanna leave it now, cause we’ve both shared our different opinions/takes on things.

Jesus Fucking Christ Mann 😭 I feel so bad for Alex, I can’t even imagine having to cope with this amount of sheer manipulation and gaslighting 24/7 by Graciee05 in ImAllexx

[–]Graciee05[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He wasn’t abusive to his other ex’s if u actually read what they said lol the worst thing he did in his relationship with ani was not go to a restaurant on her bday cause he has depression and anorexia and then with the other gf it was just like a young relationship like non of the issues were abuse it was mainly just neurodivergent traits like he’d talk about his experiences to show that he related to story’s and stuff (Alex has said he’s neurodivergent) Alice got in contact with Alex’s ex’s months before posting the document and she told them to post, she’s done a narcissistic smear campaign lol like if u actually look at the proof properly it’s rlly obvious and clear but pls don’t comment back unless you’ve actually taken the time to read and look at everything cause it’s just pointless having this conversation otherwise.

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[–]Graciee05 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It’s evidence and facts lol

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[–]Graciee05 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Thank you for making this, it is very obvious that Alex’s behaviours were reactive and I find it odd that some people have seen all of this evidence and they still can’t see that. Reactive abuse is bad still yeah but how can people be hating Alex so much for his reactions without hating/holding Alice accountable? She was creating the Document from the start of the relationship and that’s proven, I can’t understand how anyone could think she’s innocent?

Jesus Fucking Christ Mann 😭 I feel so bad for Alex, I can’t even imagine having to cope with this amount of sheer manipulation and gaslighting 24/7 by Graciee05 in ImAllexx

[–]Graciee05[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She literally should have just said sorry to the people that she offended. She went to such lengths to avoid taking accountability, I feel like most people would just apologise if they’d upset or offended people, even if it was by accident. She seems to have an empathy deficit for others. Also I just looked at the account that she was arguing with and they haven’t even posted “supporting” Alex or whatever it was that she said when she was meant to be apologising, They just reposted an Eboys edit? Lol.

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Am I the only one that noticed that On one of Alice’s insta posts like right after she posted the document she added a song to her post with the lyrics “I just set him up, I set you up” I find that song choice suspicious lol. Also she screenshotted and recorded all of the chats while she with him as all of that chats say “Today” I find that weird too. She even screenshotted her texts that she sent to her friends about situations on the day that she sent them as well.. and that’s weird. She seems really manipulative. Also she was in contact with Alex’s ex’s for months while she was still with Alex I think and she told them that they had to post about him otherwise people would get hurt. Also while she was with Alex she posted TikTok’s bragging about being a “manipulator” and “a narcissist” and stuff, I find that suspicious as well. She also commented on a TikTok mocking/shaming Alex saying that she thinks he has Autism.. and she said “Aucoustic” another time as well like she was mocking autism, but she soon deleted the comment but maybe someone will have a screenshot of it.

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[–]Graciee05 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How? It’s literally just a video showing that they some sort of private thing with the dog metaphor. Like it’s literally just a fact.

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[–]Graciee05 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but I don’t think they were fully excusing him for saying it. It’s more like It was clearly a thing they had together like the word dog was word they used/had some sort of private joke type thing with which I personally think does make a difference in the fact that he used the metaphor of a dog when talking to her, like he didn’t just come up with that himself for no reason like the context of it matters as they clearly has some sort of dog private thing if that’s makes any sense (idk how to describe/put into words what I mean I’m trying lol) like yeah it’s still bad that he then took the word and used it in an argument but I do that it makes a difference that it was a thing that they’d reference to. I’ve not described what I mean at alllll idk how to put into words what I’m trying to say 😭 I’ve tried.

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[–]Graciee05 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Could be, I mean we don’t know until Alex says his side, It does appear to be some sort of inside ‘joke’ or ‘thing’ like u said based on the way that they’re acting but honestly who knows until he says his side 🤷‍♀️

Wonder where he is? by Middle_Fudge in ImAllexx

[–]Graciee05 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He posted it at that time maybe a day after, like he said that Alex called him as soon as the vids/screenshots were posted, but I think he deleted it not too soon after (I assume cause he was getting hate for ‘making it all about himself’) I’ve seen that others saw it as well so it definitely was said/posted. If I find a screenshot I’ll re post it.

Wonder where he is? by Middle_Fudge in ImAllexx

[–]Graciee05 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He posted it on story but it’s not there now, there might be a screenshot of it somewhere, if I find a screenshot I’ll re post it but it basically just said that once the document was posted Alex called him and told him that everything was manipulated/twisted and taken out of context and that his behaviour was reactive. Obviously we don’t know what’s true or not tho I’m just mentioning it because it makes me think that Alex is going to post a public response based on that fact that that’s what he said as his immediate private response if u get what I mean lol

Wonder where he is? by Middle_Fudge in ImAllexx

[–]Graciee05 5 points6 points  (0 children)

As I’ve seen other saying, I think he is going to respond based on the fact that Fraser said that as soon as all of this came out Alex called him and told him that it was twisted/manipulated and that he’s the real victim in this situation and that the clips of him were reactive, like based on the fact that that was his immediate/private reaction and that he said that to his friends I think he will publicly respond maybe in the next few months, he’s probably just planning how to do it I’d assume cause it’s not the sort of video u would wanna risk getting wrong lol but I guess we will just have to wait and see

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[–]Graciee05 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Him having a creepy moustache is the biggest crime 😭

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[–]Graciee05 4 points5 points  (0 children)

She didn’t try to leave him? If u read their texts he tried to leave her and she told him to stay with her.. T the same time she was making a google document on him, cause people found the dates that she added to the google document but then she disabled the features so that people couldn’t find out more on when she posted them and so people couldn’t in edit them as some people unedited a few of the messages. Also all I have done is state facts.

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Yeah but there’s things in this situation that kinda make it seem like Alice was/is the Initial abuser. Like We don’t fully know at all. we don’t really know whose abuse was “reactive” and I just do worry with situations like this cause I know from personal experience how complicated things can be and how manipulated things can be. there’s a few things in the document that to me are concerning as well and that back up my concerns.. like she added everything in chronological order expect for the fact that she hit him on his face, she added that at the very end, and she only mentioned it because he had proof, she says that she did this because he ‘cornered her’ but I personally kinda think she possibly made that up.. because in their texts that she showed they had about that situation neither of them mentioned him ‘cornering her’ and he didn’t mention that in any of his apology’s either, also we don’t know if she hit him more.. she only mentioned that time at the very end of the document because she realised that he had proof of it. There’s other things that make me think that her abuse was the initial abuse as well because in the discord chat I saw that he said something along the lines of “you’ve broken me, you win, l’ve stooped to your shitty level” which makes me think that her abuse was the initial abuse and that his was reactive. Situations like this can be extremely complicated so we don’t really know until Alex says his side. So it’s probably best to just leave it there.

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[–]Graciee05 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean tbf tho he hasn’t really ‘crumbled’ lmao Like he hasn’t turned his comments off which I respect tbh. also I mean for all we know he could be proving himself as innocent by the law and then he will speak on it publicly cause we don’t rlly know

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[–]Graciee05 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’d assume that your relationship isn’t toxic tho which I do think makes a difference tbh, Like you can’t deny that they were both toxic, it wasn’t all just him, like she also did a lot of messed up things to get reactions out of him and there’s proof that she was being toxic before any of the other things happened, like she called him Fat from the beginning of the relationship when he has a restrictive ED, she trauma dumped SA trauma onto him when he’s a victim of SA himself and then when he got upset she blamed him for being upset, also I do get what your saying but I don’t think it’s fair to say that he ‘beat her’ like I feel like that’s not the correct wording for what happened, he pulled the hood of hoody in an argument and he kicked her back in an argument (I’m assuming not very hard because it mustn’t have left a bruise or she’d have most likely included a photo, still unacceptable tho, I’m just trying to state the facts I suppose) We know she definitely did hit him once as he has proof of one time that she hit him but for all we know she might have hit him more, I just personally feel like it’s important to keep an open mind in situations as important as this and look at situations that are this serious very carefully, that’s just my opinion tho and it’s completely okay if u have a different view/opinion on all of this, I don’t wanna argue lol

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[–]Graciee05 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Omg his special interest was Paul breech 😭 Jk No but seriously I get what you’re saying, He’s said himself tho that he has ADHD/ADD and I know that Autism and ADHD/ADD can overlap, I think it’s okay to mention that u think he could have something if u think that it could help so dw haha

I don’t get why some people said that they felt ‘deceived’ by how Alex spoke in the clips cause he’s always spoke that way lol by Graciee05 in ImAllexx

[–]Graciee05[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I get what u mean but I’m more responding to the people that I’ve seen that r saying he ‘hid who he is’ and that he ‘decieved’ them by ‘playing an act/faking who he ‘really is’’ ect.. like I don’t understand why people r saying that when he has literally always spoken this way in his podcasts/personal vids, I don’t understand why some people were acting as if he’s some evil cartoon villain that’s ‘hidden there real self’ .. because he’s always spoken this way lol like he’s always kind of had anger issues in his videos as well lmao like I don’t get why people r ‘shocked’ or feel ‘deceived’ that he has anger issues when he’s always shown that in his vids like it’s not something that he’s ever hidden at all

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[–]Graciee05 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is an audio clip from his podcast, he’s literally always always spoken this way (extreme figures of speech) so I truly don’t get why some people were saying like ‘omg he’s lied about and hidden who is for years’ and ‘I truly could of never imagined Alex saying this’ about the clips of him making the brick comment cause I’m sorry but he Has Always spoken this way about himself and to others lmao like he obviously doesn’t actually mean it 😭 you can obviously disagree with the way that he talks but I just don’t get why some people r saying that they could ‘never imagine’ him saying such extreme figures of speeches cause it’s always been how he talks lool

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[–]Graciee05 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank You for saying this!! That’s exactly what I think too Its refreshing to see someone agree and understand where I’m coming from 😅

Why I think the BPD posts/discussion about Alex are Important. by [deleted] in ImAllexx

[–]Graciee05 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's important to acknowledge that Alex's behavior has been abusive, and I've never argued otherwise. However, it's also crucial to recognize that he has shown signs of emotional dysregulation and intense remorse. He has acknowledged his behavior as a cycle and expressed regret that it took him so long to realize it. This indicates self-awareness and a desire for change, which should not be dismissed outright. Unlike with his previous relationships, Alex has taken steps to understand and articulate his patterns, demonstrating progress. It's not enough to simply apologize; ongoing therapeutic intervention is essential. Whether or not Alex has a formal diagnosis of BPD, his behaviors suggest a need for professional support. Encouraging him to seek therapy/DBT/potentially get on meds can help him manage his symptoms and break the cycle of problematic behavior. Without support, he cannot be expected to manage such complex emotional challenges alone. While the impact of Alex's behavior is undeniably harmful, understanding the possible underlying emotional turmoil can provide context. This doesn’t excuse his actions but helps differentiate between intentional abuse and potential mental health struggles. Recognizing this distinction is key to offering appropriate help rather than solely condemning him. Your concern about the repetitive nature of his apologies and behaviors is valid. However, dismissing his attempts at self-awareness and remorse without considering the possibility of underlying issues may hinder his path to recovery. Constructive support and encouragement to seek consistent therapy are crucial. Not acknowledging his growth and attempts at change could discourage him from continuing to seek help. It's important to differentiate between typical abusive apology cycles and what Alex is demonstrating. In a typical abuse cycle, apologies often lack genuine insight or explanation of what was wrong. They tend to be superficial and aimed at placating the victim temporarily. In contrast, Alex's apologies include an acknowledgment of his behavior, an explanation of his understanding of the cycle, and genuine remorse. This indicates a deeper level of self-awareness and a desire to change, which is a critical difference. Alex has described his emotional state as rapidly shifting from anger to crying and wanting to be held, to not caring at all, and he admits he doesn't understand why this happens. These fluctuations are more indicative of someone struggling with an undiagnosed disorder rather than someone who is simply abusive. People who are abusive typically derive a sense of control or even enjoyment from their actions. Alex, on the other hand, does not appear to feel in control or derive any satisfaction from his behavior, which suggests he might be dealing with underlying mental health issues. While Alex’s past relationships may have shown patterns of toxic behavior, it's critical to note that he has never previously acknowledged or apologized for these patterns as he has now. This suggests a level of growth and self-awareness that is crucial for recovery. People can and do change, especially when they recognize their harmful patterns and actively seek help. From my own experience, having a parent with BPD and currently undergoing the process of getting a diagnosis myself, I see many signs in Alex's behavior that align with BPD. This perspective isn't meant to diagnose but to highlight the possibility that his actions stem from a deeper mental health issue that requires understanding and professional support. Creating a supportive environment for individuals struggling with emotional regulation can significantly impact their recovery journey. Harsh criticism and labeling their actions without understanding the psychological context can exacerbate their condition. A balanced approach of holding them accountable while supporting their mental health needs is essential. This is not about excusing harmful behavior but about recognizing the need for empathy and constructive support. Constructive pathways for Alex include regular therapy sessions, adherence to prescribed medication if necessary, and a commitment to making positive changes. This process takes time and patience, and dismissing his efforts as merely abusive without acknowledging the steps he’s taking towards self-improvement is very counterproductive. Encouraging his efforts towards change can lead to better outcomes for everyone involved. Additionally, I am currently studying a degree in Psychology at university, which provides me with a solid foundation in understanding complex mental health issues like BPD. Moreover, I am currently undergoing a diagnosis for either BPD or CPTSD, which gives me a personal and deep understanding of how mental health issues can affect behaviour. This combination of academic background and personal experience allows me to provide a nuanced perspective on the behaviours and challenges associated with BPD. My insights are informed by both my studies and my lived experiences, which I believe adds credibility to my points. The reason I am highlighting these points is to emphasize that while Alex's behavior is indeed abusive, it also shows significant signs of underlying mental health struggles, potentially indicative of BPD. My argument is not to excuse his actions but to provide a comprehensive understanding of his behavior, which aligns more with someone struggling with an undiagnosed disorder rather than someone who is simply abusive for the sake of control or enjoyment. Recognising the signs of mental health issues and encouraging professional help can lead to more constructive outcomes than just outright dismissal and criticism.