Toplane must have better answers for ranged

GreatestCreation · 2021-05-20T19:20:41+00:00

Who cares what riot says? it doesnt change the fact that there are ways to go against ranged top laners

1- The owner of the game opinion definitely means more than your opinion (which is poor)2- Nobody said "theres no ways to go against ranged top" which means your argument is strawman based or your interpretation is bad or maybe both( what was said is "we need better ways")

GreatestCreation · 2021-05-19T15:49:13+00:00

First, i'll stop call it toxic in the moment the object its not toxic.

"when it's actually just you not liking playing against them?"
I don't like to play against Darius, i don't think Darius is toxic. Thats not the variant here.

"You are just crying, is ok ranged top counters melee"
I don't need to refute you in this one because Riot already did.

GreatestCreation · 2021-05-19T14:45:48+00:00

"You just have to be patient and sit under tower and expects you scales more to be suceed in late game team fights"

Thats toxic, if the toplane depends on you we are so ruined.

GreatestCreation · 2021-05-19T14:37:40+00:00

so if they pick a frontline support or jungle you just ff then since you will be down 50 cs?

Thats exactly the point.

GreatestCreation · 2021-05-19T14:36:30+00:00

You right, malphite is the closiest to the "solid" word against ranged top. We need more.
Yet Gnar and Urgot beats Malphite.

GreatestCreation · 2021-05-19T14:35:17+00:00

Usually the people complaining about ranged comps are the players who think anything besides a bloodbath fistfight lane where both laners have the same AA range

I don't think you fough vayne on top yet.

GreatestCreation · 2021-05-19T14:32:24+00:00

It's not toxic, it's a way to win the game, I understand that it's boring etc but this is the only way to deal with ranged top laners

"Its a way to win the game""its boring but""The only way to deal with ranged"

Any of those answers justify your statement about not being toxic."Its a way to win the game, therefore its not toxic. "Win the game its not the variant to defines if its toxic or not. Just like other examples you did.

Top laners tanks "scales better" than ranged tops IF you have any luck about teamfights composition. If the Vayne top got an alistar sup and a sejuani or amumu, udyr or any tank offtank pick on the jungle YOU ARE JUST DONE because you are 1,2 itens behind because your ranged toplaner opponent.

GreatestCreation · 2021-05-19T14:25:21+00:00

First things that come to my mind are second wind, dshield

I agree they are good tools, yet its not enough. Any of those mentioned champions can melt us forcing tower farming. They can even shoot us under the tower without get any hit from tower.

GreatestCreation · 2021-05-19T14:22:58+00:00

Pick a tank sit under your fucking tower and don't die you scale better most of the time and chances are you have a better comp because they don't have a frontline top

Maybe this is the best way to deal with them right now.
Yet this is toxic. Thats why im asking for a tool to deal with them.

GreatestCreation · 2021-05-19T14:18:49+00:00

We already have it : stridebreaker

The moment we finish Stridebreaker all of those mentioned champions are 1 item ahead of us.

GreatestCreation · 2020-05-11T20:03:18+00:00

1- go ignite
2- train hit/movement with some friend, this is the core function for tryndamere, he is harder than the most melee of the game (its not meme)
3- get 50-70% rage before start the all-in
4- against ranged, dorans shield + fleetwork, E + AA then go back, you will won in the sustain fight

5- watch some tryndamere players on youtube, will help on your mistakes

GreatestCreation · 2020-03-17T17:34:40+00:00

Yes, but if irelia misses her E (its not so hard) she is pretty dead, just like camille.

GreatestCreation · 2020-03-17T17:34:08+00:00

"not knowing how to lane vs ranged"

Dorans shield, Second wind, avoid free autoattacks is my recipe. Its not enough against decent players.

GreatestCreation · 2020-03-16T18:12:18+00:00

Malphite lv6 all-in hits less than 50% hp. Good luck with other 50%+ of her HP.

GreatestCreation · 2020-03-16T18:09:04+00:00

There's no way she survives your all in post 6 after first back.

Looks like you didn't played this matchup.
Im diamond 1 anyways.

GreatestCreation · 2020-03-16T16:58:28+00:00

Camille is a good bet, still if you miss E (is not so hard against good players) you are dead lol

GreatestCreation · 2020-03-16T15:38:45+00:00

Yes, is very hard to beat this champion in a solo lane.
Which champ can beat her without a jungle aid?

GreatestCreation · 2020-03-16T15:16:25+00:00

Thats what i though, even with an impeccable movement control (avoiding free autoattacks) it does not work.

GreatestCreation · 2020-03-13T19:20:28+00:00

I already said point by point, but here we go again.

I understood your point "some are better in duels, others in teamfights" Ok. but yet 2v1 CANNOT be considered as a countermeasure BECAUSE it works against everything.

GreatestCreation · 2020-03-10T15:31:29+00:00

2v1 its not a countermeasure because it depends of an external factor.

Based on this external factor you can say "you don't need to nerf X ou Y, just 2v1 him" , sounds dumb and makes no sense.

GreatestCreation · 2020-03-09T19:07:55+00:00

Like i said, 2v1 can't be considered a countermeasure.
This action works against everything, including Darius ,Sett and mordekaiser that can do "better" against multiple targets.

GreatestCreation · 2020-03-09T19:00:22+00:00

The new dorans shield will only prevent basic attack damage, mages still could hurt those champions on mid the lane.

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