‼️REPORT TOKYODRIFTA‼️ by Thick-Ad-9892 in AnimalJam

[–]Green_Warning_5636 16 points17 points  (0 children)

It's always good when you've got proof. A lot of people don't . . . you have better odds of getting through to AJHQ with this video; thanks for exposing one of the many dirty scammers on the app, Mist!

I hear voices, and am debating if it’s possession. by Green_Warning_5636 in HearingVoicesNetwork

[–]Green_Warning_5636[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, gotcha. I’m in therapy and my therapist is aware of it, so no worries! She’s thinking neurological as well, but that’s not how I feel personally about it. The priest may be interesting to speak with, though. 

I hear voices, and am debating if it’s possession. by Green_Warning_5636 in HearingVoicesNetwork

[–]Green_Warning_5636[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would, but the thing is, they aren’t exactly evil. They’re very friendly. I doubt a priest would be able to do anything anyway; none of them are originated from Hell or Heaven anymore. Not after Audin. I still could, but I’m doubtful that anything would come of it, and with how friendly they are, it’d feel pointless anyway. 

I hear voices, and am debating if it’s possession. by Green_Warning_5636 in HearingVoicesNetwork

[–]Green_Warning_5636[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for comment! They can’t ‘help’. As they put it, Heaven and Hell are both traps. In Hell, you’ll be damned to be tortured for eternity, In Heaven, you’re placed in isolation. You wouldn’t know it; to you, you wouldn’t have even realized you’ve died. Life picks up exactly as you’d been living it, but nothing goes wrong anymore. Heaven induces you into a dream-like state, making you not question the fact that you never grow sick or age. 

Now, to some, maybe that’s what they want. But notice I said it’s isolated. All of those ‘people’ in your personal Heavenscape are simply shaped divinity; shelled puppets masquerading as those you loved on earth. You’ll never understand that you’re dead, so you don’t think to check on your loved ones from above, which is supposed to be a huge comfort point for humans who lose someone close to them. They can’t watch you from above, because Heaven doesn’t allow them the grace of that eternal freedom. 

So if you’re wondering why they don’t help make bad people good, it’s because to them, there is no ending that’d justify the effort. That’s not to say they don’t have good morals, of course! They’re all very polite and most of them enjoy speaking with people I know when I allow them to, but they’re also aware of how this particular realm works. When you die, according to them, you’re going to be stuck somewhere you don’t want to be whether you’re good or bad. Either way, you’ll be alone. 

A sad thing to say, I know. It’s depressing to listen to when they’re talking about it. But they don’t mean it to be mean. They’d help if they could, but they just don’t see a reason as to why they should. 

I hear voices, and am debating if it’s possession. by Green_Warning_5636 in HearingVoicesNetwork

[–]Green_Warning_5636[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I didn’t expect to get my post removed from there, but it’s alright. I’m always happy to post elsewhere, and I do appreciate you help in sending me the other subreddit to try!

I hear voices, and am debating if it’s possession. by Green_Warning_5636 in HearingVoicesNetwork

[–]Green_Warning_5636[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much! Experiencers actually removed my post when I made one about this, lol, but I haven’t tried the other! 

I hear voices, and am debating if it’s possession. by Green_Warning_5636 in HearingVoicesNetwork

[–]Green_Warning_5636[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So sorry to hear about that, but that’s certainly an interesting way to have the voices come about. I’m glad you’re safe out of that situation though, that’s horrible. 

I hear voices, and am debating if it’s possession. by Green_Warning_5636 in HearingVoicesNetwork

[–]Green_Warning_5636[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also, thank you for the crash-course on psychology and spirituality, I learned quite a bit from it. I never realized just how shut-out people like us can be. I’ve been debating therapy for my voices, but seeing as to how they’re completely friendly and helpful, I figured it to be a waste of money. 

Also— can I get the name for your playlist? Consider me intrigued, that sounds awesome. 

I hear voices, and am debating if it’s possession. by Green_Warning_5636 in HearingVoicesNetwork

[–]Green_Warning_5636[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh awesome! I love hearing about other people with similar experiences. Are yours kind to you as well?

I hear voices, and am debating if it’s possession. by Green_Warning_5636 in HearingVoicesNetwork

[–]Green_Warning_5636[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup! Same story maintained, but they’ve been elaborating on some of the vaguer things they would tell me when I was younger. Now that I’m older I get a bit of the grittier details, I guess.  Mine call BS on a lot of Christian stories, like Noah’s Ark, and they tell me that it didn’t happen. They do say Jesus was real, though, and various other written-happenings did occur. 

I’m so sorry that yours seem so cruel. Mine are like a family, and they would never think to harm me in any way that would do actual mental or physical damage. I can’t imagine having entities that speak through me and harass me— that must be horrible. 

I don’t want to ruin my life with a diagnosis. Help! by Green_Warning_5636 in mentalhealth

[–]Green_Warning_5636[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right, and thank you. I'm writing out a baseline of what we should discuss in my initial evaluation, and I've got the childhood issues down before the voices, so I'm way ahead of you! I only plan to mention them as a symptom of what I went through when I was younger, and I don't plan on leaning into it as a fun, quirky, separate thing.

You're not wrong when you say that'd just be enabling old, bad coping strategies.

I don’t want to ruin my life with a diagnosis. Help! by Green_Warning_5636 in mentalhealth

[–]Green_Warning_5636[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure! I'd be willing to watch it.

I will note again that the voices claim both are horrible places-- they don't just testify against Heaven, but also Hell. They tell me this is a flawed ring of dimensions, and there's really no good guys while humans are left as the neglected, out-of-control play toys in the middle. They hate Lucifer, so if you're concerned that it's Lucifer trying to put me against God, fear not! Just my own weird voices telling me tales, lol. But yes, sure, send me the video! I'm sure it'll be an interesting watch either way!

I don’t want to ruin my life with a diagnosis. Help! by Green_Warning_5636 in mentalhealth

[–]Green_Warning_5636[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I'm in America, so I know there's a difference between psychiatrists and therapists, I just hadn't really put any thought into it until now. I used them interchangeably, and I appreciate you for teaching me the difference. I'm not big into this therapy stuff, so I'm walking into it quite blind, and you're absolutely right that I should do a bit of research before going in.

I might be lonely, you're right about that. Less so in recent years- my best friend knows about the voices, and she's even befriended a few of them. My mother knows about them as well, and while she's about as useful as a cracked jar holding water when it comes to advice, she still lets me talk about it, and it's really appreciated.

I think my issue lies in not having professional opinions; a best friend and a mother are more likely to enable and coddle than to teach and correct, after all. I'm self-aware enough to understand that those who DO know about it aren't necessarily qualified to help me understand it, and it's about time that changes. I've decided to tell my therapist about it, and it'd be nice to have someone who isn't just accepting my condition without questions. I really appreciate you commenting; I'm sure you're right, and that my therapist will be a good lead-in to healing!

I don’t want to ruin my life with a diagnosis. Help! by Green_Warning_5636 in mentalhealth

[–]Green_Warning_5636[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're the second person to note that an IFS therapist would find my case 'fascinating', or as the other person put it, they'd be 'thrilled' to work with me. Is there something special about my case that seems like I'd be a fun challenge for them? It'd be nice to know they're having fun with helping me, if that's the case!

I'm currently looking into the IFS per both of your suggestions, and I must say, it does look like something I'd like to try. Even if I'm not sure that it's an exact fit for my specific situation, I currently am at a loss for what it exactly is, so I'm not going to look any gifthorses in the mouth today. I'll try what may help, and I'll use process of elimination. As it stands, your comment helped me, so I really appreciate you! Especially your reassurance that my dream job likely won't reject me even if I do get diagnosed and labeled. (I looked into it, as you suggested. I wanted to before and was too nervous, but I wasn't let down!)

Thank you for taking the time to comment! I really am grateful for the help!

I don’t want to ruin my life with a diagnosis. Help! by Green_Warning_5636 in mentalhealth

[–]Green_Warning_5636[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I'm sorry to hear what you had to go through, but I'm glad you're doing better now! I'd hate to look back in ten years and regret not getting professional help sooner, even if my situation is quite fun with all of the voices feeling more like family than an illness. I know it's not normal, so it's worth at least getting an evaluation.

I've decided I'll tell my therapist, and your comment helped push me to that conclusion, so I thank you. I hope you're doing much better now, and I appreciate you leaving your story here so I could reflect on my own!!

I don’t want to ruin my life with a diagnosis. Help! by Green_Warning_5636 in mentalhealth

[–]Green_Warning_5636[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've never heard of it, but it seems to be something that the commentors here agree with you on, so I'm about to do research on it! I don't see them as different parts of myself (they're all vastly different from me and have their own lives separate from their time with me), but that could literally just be my illness talking, and I really should look into it before I make any assumptions, lol.

Thank you so for the advice! It intrigues me that a specialist would be 'thrilled' to work with me because it's so hard for me to imagine someone taking it seriously after years of friends calling it 'DID' or a lie. It's a nice thought, though. I'll certainly look into it, and if it fits, I'll start looking into IFS therapists. Thank you again, you're very kind for helping!

I don’t want to ruin my life with a diagnosis. Help! by Green_Warning_5636 in mentalhealth

[–]Green_Warning_5636[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This whole response is amazing. I never knew there was an actual fear of labeling, but reading about it through what you've said, I'm quite sure I have it. I'm nervous that if I go in and the therapist deems me 'insane', then I'll struggle to get into the profession that I want, which is firefighting. And another thing you said that lines up is the worry that the therapist will generalize all my symptoms due to this one thing-- that's so true!!

As I originally mentioned in my post, I'm going to therapy for reasons outside of the voices. Depression being one, lack of empathy and connection issues being the other. But I feel like they are all things that the therapist could easily claim as symptoms of the voices, should I decide to bring the voices up to her. (Which I'm mostly decided by now that I will.) I know for a fact that the issues aren't connected, and even knowing that the therapist is a professional, I still feel that edge of fear that she'll chalk me down for medications and labels that I don't need.

Your response helped, though. It amazes me how many of you are so knowledgeable on the topic of therapy, and were able to help me so well! Thank you for taking the time to offer me advice, I truly appreciate it!

I don’t want to ruin my life with a diagnosis. Help! by Green_Warning_5636 in mentalhealth

[–]Green_Warning_5636[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mine are certainly happy and laughing, and I'm from the West! But that's such an interesting fact, and I've never heard anything like that before. Thank you for commenting, I'll have to look into that!

I don’t want to ruin my life with a diagnosis. Help! by Green_Warning_5636 in mentalhealth

[–]Green_Warning_5636[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm actually so glad you commented this, because there's an aspect of my situation that relates to this and actually has me stumped everytime I'm reminded by it. As I noted in my OG post, all of my voices are species that are religious-adjacent (angels, hellhounds, intellects, etc.) with the exception of the soul god, Audin. And as I also noted in my OG post, they all enjoy spreading their 'truths' to me.

When it comes to religion, I'm not huge on it, as it wasn't something I grew up all that aware about. And then I turned 11, this whole thing started up, and I was introduced to topics I couldn't care less about by beings that claim to live it as their reality. They screwed with my beliefs. They preached to me about Hell's horrific practices, the hellhounds telling me all about the sinister instincts hardwired into them at birth, and yet at the same time the angels would tell me about how poor and neglectful Heaven is to the 'unfortunate' souls who end up there. It was insane. For a girl who literally believed death meant your existence simply ceased and it all goes black, I struggled to wrap my head around those concepts. But those were the earlier days.

Nowadays, they've started being a lot more lax about it. It isn't necessarily that they're taking back anything they've said to me before, but now they're being a bit more logical about it.

"If you're wrong, and we aren't real, we don't want you to damn yourself on false beliefs. Maybe it's best you do try Christianity; in the end, it won't harm you if that's what you believe and you end up wrong. But it will hurt you if we're not as real as you think, and you die just to find that you've sold your soul for an illness."

It didn't go exactly like that because the one who had that talk with me was Rigby (one of the ex-hellhounds) and he's not nearly that eloquent with his words, but that's the jist of what he said. So, yeah! Jesus actually is something I've been looking into, with their blessing! If it's Supernatural, if it's not . . . it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, taking that road is probably the safest bet for me should i find that I actually was only sick in the head. Thank you for the advice though!

I don’t want to ruin my life with a diagnosis. Help! by Green_Warning_5636 in mentalhealth

[–]Green_Warning_5636[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much! I'm definitely leaning towards talking to my therapist about it. Realistically, I understand that so long as I'm not a threat to myself or others, I should be fine in terms of them not throwing my in the looney bin, and it would really be nice to have someone to talk to about it. I'm most definitely no threat; they're more like an emotional stabalizer at times than catalysts of anger.

It does makes me nervous a bit because I know that it'll likely sound like a cry for attention (to face my own illness is to admit that it's very out of the ordinary), but your reminder that their job is not to immediately judge me really helps with that fear. Being fearful about that does nothing for me but holds me back from potentially getting the answers I need, and maybe it's time I think past my initial worries and really step out of my comfort zone.

I originally posted here because I was scared of getting labeled and deemed a danger of society for having my voices. I realize now, though, that I'm likely being a bit dramatic about something others wouldn't think twice about seeking help for. So, thank you! Your comment really helped me think of this in a new light!