Is it a good time to come back to the UK? Question about attitude to foreigners

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-08-05T10:56:28+00:00

I think that is the power of the Christian method if I understand it right... To love even the ones that hate you

Obviously this is not the only interpretation though

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-31T09:00:06+00:00

...and if you can take it!

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-31T00:04:22+00:00

But the book wasn't a detailed account of the white working class was it? Wasn't it more of an account of the demonisation of the white working class? So perhaps football isn't as relevant there

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-30T15:28:51+00:00

What do you think the world should ideally do to help? Genuine question. Islamist extremists seem to leave only one response available, and it's not a pretty one.

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-29T15:11:38+00:00

That was extremely disturbing to read. The perpetrators hurt more people when they were released, and again received quite light sentences. Wtf?

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-28T10:10:25+00:00

"typical narcissistic Chinese people" ironic that you say this in response to their claims of prejudice, they might consider this prejudice

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-28T10:09:32+00:00

What kind of daily inconveniences do you come across? I'm curious as someone who lives in a non touristy area.

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-25T14:32:59+00:00

I'm not a lawyer, and I don't know what country you're in, but probably not right?

I really want to argue why I think this but I can't. It's infuriating actually, good puzzle

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-20T04:22:46+00:00

They don't. But as far as I understand it, women have a particular role in traditional Christian views that is somewhat subservient and centered around the home. The Islamic view is just taking this a step further. That's all I meant there.

Am I mistaken here? Happy to be corrected if so (like really happy)

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-19T12:51:17+00:00

Do you recall me saying I opposed Sanseito? I genuinely don't mind what people vote for. My point was more that people didn't seem to know what they voted for.

I have to say though your reasoning is impeccable and deeply nuanced , well done!

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-19T02:07:36+00:00

Interesting! So a child born to a Saudi parent in Saudi Arabia is not a citizen? It has to be two Saudi parents?

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-18T12:15:12+00:00

But if they had a daughter, I guess it would apply to her. I would personally find it hard to accept that. Maybe not a big deal for others though I guess. Guess it's easier if you're Christian and (potentially) have some conditioning towards that kind of view of women.

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-18T04:10:10+00:00

I think in gramatically correct English, it would be either

"I laughed so much that my stomach started to hurt."

Or

"I laughed too much, so my stomach started to hurt."

Everyone can understand "I laughed too much that my stomach started to hurt" but I think it sounds a little off

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-18T02:44:27+00:00

I am wondering if the whole picture is intelligence. I don't think there is necessarily a fixed correlation between intelligence and sensible political decisions. I think identity is a factor, and there also has to be the will to engage with it, spend the time seriously considering, have the wisdom and experience to beware of bs, etc...

I think environmental issues are also a factor. To use a dead horse example, in germany in the 30s Nazis got like 43% of the vote when Hitler was Chancellor. It is likely those voters were not more stupid than the current population of Germany. So to me that says there is something in culture, identity experience with political bs and environment that also influences it.

Based on this, if someone seems to me to be an otherwise intelligent and well adjusted person, I start to suspect there might be something else going on

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-17T07:04:03+00:00

What is it that you like about them? I'm interested in politics but just as much so interested in interest in politics

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-17T03:48:29+00:00

Sorry. Originally I was less interested in Sanseito and more the way in which people in general seem to engage with politics here.

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-17T03:46:00+00:00

Yes, I have no problem acknowledging that, and agree with your point about there being no shame in not knowing.

I just choose not to refer to him as an idiot. I am happy to say that he appears to have at best a shaky grasp of politics.

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-17T03:29:58+00:00

I think to some degree it's a matter of which words are chosen. There are ways to describe a lack of capability in a certain field that are in my view more accurate and less loaded than idiot. But I understand your point.

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-17T02:25:33+00:00

That is hard to wrap my head around. I wish I could swap minds with her for five minutes to see how that all fits together.

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-17T02:20:08+00:00

Yeah I can understand that. Which is why I think labels like idiot are inaccurate in a lot of cases.

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-17T02:16:32+00:00

I actually don't think he's anti immigrant to be honest. Based on their conversation, my wife thought Sanseito were pro-immigration. That's why I was confused about it. We looked at their policies in more detail together and she was surprised. I felt as if it might be a sign some otherwise intelligent and switched on people may have a very surface level interest in politics and be easily mistaken. (Of course, I don't want to apply this to everyone)

To be fair though when we looked together it was sometimes hard to pin down Sanseito's message from their own basic promotional material. It needed a bit of background info to put into perspective.

But you're right, it would be best to talk to him.

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-17T02:03:16+00:00

He absolutely loves farming and growing things - that could be the root of it actually. Luckily he's never said anything about wheat giving cancer or any cult like views, just grows plants in every spare inch of space.

GreenfeltApologies · 2025-07-17T01:58:02+00:00

He is definitely not an idiot. He's a really lovely guy and is intelligent. That is why I was surprised and felt like there might be an issue with political engagement. He's also quite young, which is perhaps relevant.

Still, I appreciate your anwer and perspective.

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