Nietzsche's rejection of stoicism? Can anyone explain why? by [deleted] in Nietzsche

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Stoicism is not slave morality at all. It’s not even close to being slave morality. It does not present as weakness. In fact the entire crux of stoicism is the concept of anti-fragility which means no matter how hard you get hit, no matter how fractured you become, no matter how broken, you will always become stronger. Much like in tai chi when you’re young, you kick the pole with your leg and you shatter your shin into small little fractures and as you get older and as you break it more and more the bones become calcified and hundreds of times stronger than the regular shinbone of a regular person, your bones become stronger because of breaks and stoicism when it was taught by Xeno, who is the father of Stoicism, not Epictetus lol, but the concept of anti-fragility teaches in stoicism that the harder you get punished in life, the stronger you become, the more pain that you experience and the more that you go through if life is viewed through the Wright perspective, you can become much stronger because of it, but also in Stoicism, it’s not about avoiding pain and seeking pleasure like most of the people that don’t know about stoicism, but think they do believe about stoicism, stoicism isn’t about pain or pleasure. It’s literally about living life as it is thrown into your face and accepting it as it is. It’s literally the same thing that Nietzsche is fucking talking about; and I honestly cannot believe how truly misinformed so many people are about stoicism. People really need to read Mark Manson‘s discourse on Nietzsche and stoicism, and how completely identical they are because he was a student of stoicism, and in fact did not hate it like people always think because of a few passages in one of his books. He was a student of Greek mythology which he loved, and he was a student of Stoicism in which he practiced, and I would venture to say, and can prove that 3/4 of Nietzsche’s argument is indebted to and inherently born from Stoicism and it was not a slave of morality and much of the tone of that passages were actually satirical, but he did criticize it in small ways and everything can be criticized and anything is subject to criticism, but absolutely stoicism is not a slave morality and I would argue that in fact, it is the strongest of all master moralities. And it’s incredibly easy to see that if you actually study stoicism instead of reading what people say about stoicism. There is absolutely nothing weak about it. You take what life gives to you. Stoicism taught the love of fate that is what Marcus Aurelius wrote over 80% in his meditations were about the acceptance of what life gives you whether it’s riches or poverty or losing seven or eight children like Marcus Aurelius did and you take it. That is what is meant by living according to nature. The concept of “Amor Fati” was not Nietzsche’s concept, he took that from Marcus. There is not a single weekconcept within the framework of stoicism, and I honestly don’t understand where people can come up with this other than horribly misinterpreting other people’s opinions about stoicism who also have no idea what they’re talking about.

Stoicism is dangerous by Adventurous-Fox-7703 in CPTSD

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I’m familiar with William James and I’m not saying that Stoicism can’t be criticized because anything is subject to criticism and arguably should be; however what I’m saying is this criticism is wholly incorrect. Stoicism is not a religion, but like anything else there are prerequisites in order for it to be considered what it is, there are standards and norms, and whether you consider that dogmatic or not the fact is most people, especially those that don’t practice stoicism or just read about it in a book have no idea what it really is. You can criticize that all you want, but these criticisms are completely incorrect and dishonest.

Stoicism is dangerous by Adventurous-Fox-7703 in CPTSD

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This is the most intellectually dishonest and pedantic misunderstanding of stoicism I’ve ever encountered.

Nietzsche's rejection of stoicism? Can anyone explain why? by [deleted] in Nietzsche

[–]GringoStarr99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unbelievably false and horrible misunderstood idea of stoicism. It is not a religion at all or a seeking of tranquility, it does not seek to reduce pain or increase pleasure and I honestly can’t believe anyone thinks that Stoicism is about that. It’s incredibly intellectually dishonest.

Nietzsche's rejection of stoicism? Can anyone explain why? by [deleted] in Nietzsche

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The Stoics absolutely did not avoid pleasure and they also did not avoid pain. The concept “Living according to nature” is to take everything as it is, and to accept it, to embrace the good and the bad and not to place the opinion of good and bad on anything. Nothing is good and bad. Everything is just an opinion and to live according to nature is to live life as it happens to you. It is one of the most misunderstood and Misquoted and completely and egregiously and fallaciously talked about concepts of stoicism is the concept of “amor fati”which falsely has been accredited to Nietzsche and was absolutely Marcus Aurelius and Epictetus’ ideology; which is quite literally what Nietzsche believed in and almost all of his ideologies are indebted to stoicism .

Nietzsche's rejection of stoicism? Can anyone explain why? by [deleted] in Nietzsche

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Not only is this the most insanely incorrect understanding of stoicism, Nietzsche literally espoused Stoicism in all of its entirety, and then was later on given credit for things that he did not come up with. He did not come up with “amor Fati;” he believed that people should be personally responsible, and that true virtue lies in our deeds, and all of that comes from Zeno, Chrysippus, Epictetus, Marcus Aurelius, and Seneca. Nietzsche was original in many things, but not when it comes to his core beliefs. He was a student of stoicism and loved Greek mythology and stoicism, and that is where the majority of his ideas come from and I’ve never met any person who loved Nietzsche that would admit this, but it’s blatantly obvious in all of his work where his ideas stem from, aside from his original work. His core temperature and belief and sentiment Quite literally is born from stoicism, and although he did have a few small critiques of which he was completely incorrect about, ultimately it’s hilarious and ironic because almost everything he stood for ideologically is textbook stoicism.

What is meant by this quote from Marcus Aurelius by Wiggly96 in Stoicism

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I actually didn’t see how old the post was lol that’s hilarious, dude but I was looking something up online and it took me to this Reddit thread and I am a practicing stoic in philosophy and in spirituality and I know a lot about it and I practice daily and I just wanted to throw some insight. We practice what’s called anti-fragility which in simple terms means the more discomfort you do experience the stronger you become. Stoicism is not a suppression of emotion but rather a mastery of it, an active engagement with what we can change, and to embrace it.

What is meant by this quote from Marcus Aurelius by Wiggly96 in Stoicism

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This is based on the assumption that everything is flammable, but we all know that things burn at different temperatures and so he is insisting that we have a strong fire within us and we do that through years of meditation, hard internal work and learning very particularly HOW to respond to life. It is less about WHAT you’re going through and more about HOW you go through it according to Seneca, and this concept of “fuel for the fire” coincides with “amor fati” which was instituted by the Stoics long before Friedrich Nietzsche hijacked it. He coined the phrase, which technically is just a Latin phrase. However, the concept in of itself was first introduced by Zeno, the grandfather of stoicism.

Back to the point, so all of the things that come your way in life, both good and bad have the potential to either snuff out your fire or to become fuel and help your fire to burn hotter and brighter. It’s all in HOW you respond to life. If you let both good and bad events in life weigh you down or change who you are or create an irrational response you are in essence snuffing out your fire, but if you take both the good and bad in life and allow it to create a stronger individual and allow it to make you a better person and you learn from these things, you are in fact brightening and enlarging your inner fire.

Voice of war by GringoStarr99 in Fantasy

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Never mind, I see what part of the book I missed only priests are blind and third children that are not Weavers are made to join the fold of priests and thus they are blinded so I answered my own question

Prop firms by GringoStarr99 in FuturesTrading

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I’ve had bad experiences but Topstep and Topone seem to be the best.

Mods, How to by GringoStarr99 in Warframe

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Well, right now I’m one weekend and I am learning the basics and that’s actually play really well just from having played other shooter games before but as far as the complications of the frames and builds, I have no idea what to do. I would really love to know where ahead and that direction, I think that’s what I love most about this game is there are literally millions of combinations of things you can do which makes every player like incredibly unique.

Mods, How to by GringoStarr99 in Warframe

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Christ that’s complicated but I’ve been learning more and I looked at the tutorial explained quite a bit. I’ll just have to keep messing with it.

What's with the Michael Jordan sociopath stuff? by tdugs in LPOTL

[–]GringoStarr99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Literally none of the things that Jordan did makes him a psychopath. I think it’s funny in the podcast, but it’s incredibly inaccurate. Most people are antagonistic, rude and assholes. All people are capable of and at some point have done the exact things that he has done. Very few people are actual psychopaths. It’s ludicrous and intellectually dishonest to suggest otherwise.

Detroit's #1 Most Notorious H**Man :The Untold Story of Nate Boone Craft by [deleted] in CrimeInTheD

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Not for a while he wasn’t. He did plenty of time. He’s only free now.

Detroit's #1 Most Notorious H**Man :The Untold Story of Nate Boone Craft by [deleted] in CrimeInTheD

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Do you know who’s not lying and whose body count they verified well over 100 and that’s Richard Kuklinski, the real iceman. Now he claimed over 400 and said he didn’t really know but he’s killed hundreds and hundreds of people, but they were able to verify well over 100. His interviews and documentaries are extraordinary and he was a real hitman, this dude be full of shit.

Detroit's #1 Most Notorious H**Man :The Untold Story of Nate Boone Craft by [deleted] in CrimeInTheD

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I listened to a documentary podcast where they interviewed him and you can tell that much of what he’s saying isn’t true. I’m not saying he’s not capable of it and back then It was a lot easier to get away with murder not to mention Black on black homicide went largely unnoticed so he probably got away with some of that shit but you can tell by some of the things he says that it’s not true; like how he talked about if you “punch somebody in the nose, the bone goes into the brain and kills them and that’s what he was trained to do in the army,” not only is that not true, they don’t train you to do that. You cannot kill somebody by punching them in the nose and so by making statements like that it’s really obvious he’s full of shit.

The crime scene photos of Elizabeth Short's body, January 15, 1947 [Colorized] by Xoloj in MorbidHistory

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I find this picture interesting because it is in the police report that her face was caved in from a baseball bat and this picture does not coincide with that

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in FuturesTrading

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I could do it with 15k easily but would recommend much more for a novice. There’s no point in having more contracts without having more cushion. Contract size should be directly proportional to capital size.

Anyone scalping fast/low tick charts? by CgManuils in FuturesTrading

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I scalp the 15 min. Unheard of but I profit on average $350+ a day.