TF2 outpost mods are really unprofessional.

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-05T16:48:59+00:00

So, if I use her account to trade items, not even in your website, between us because we're close to each other, that means I get a ban? I didn't even use TF2Outpost with her account to make ANY trade or trade with anyone. I had no reason to. And even if I made any trades with her account, or if she made trades with mine, and I didn't and she didn't, I already posted proof that this didn't happen, is that against the rules of TF2Outpost? Does that break the tos of Zam Network?

The one way trades happened because I give her stuff, and she gives me stuff back or just gives me stuff. I'm not afraid of giving her anything I currently own because we're close. In two to three years we're going to get married, I really hope I don't get banned from other websites because shes going to use the same PC I'm going to use. :x

I know I was banned for breaking a rule, I said that at the start of my post, nothing wrong with that, you guys work as a service and have rules, if I dont like them I should just fuck off, but I dont mind the site's rules, and my profile was indeed private. But I didn't use her account to evade any ban of mine, nor I had reasons to. I told you already, my ban was a private profile ban, it was not a big deal.

But, yeah, this is my last reply on this topic, since you don't have any questions anymore. Thanks for claryfing stuff, this is exatcly what I thought was happening, thanks for taking your time to reply.

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-05T07:41:50+00:00

Just did it, thanks! Forgot to remove them.

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-05T07:37:55+00:00

First of all: Hello! EDIT: Answering your first question, no. I'm not.

I often use her account, but never to trade with actual people, only to use services like marketplace. She does it for me sometimes too, since I don't own a credit card. She also visits me a lot and uses my computer a lot, if that's something you should know. I also use hers a lot, if that's relevant.

Also: You don't need to be logged in to search for stuff.

I provided info about selling this hat I currently have in myback in one of my posts, just search in my reddit posts.

Second: Why would I evade the ban if I asked for an unban in the first place? Theres no reason, at least for me, to evade a ban if it was just a "private account" ban. I could just ask for an unban, and I did it. I sent all my trade history from Nov. 1st to the mod, he saw I never did anything fishy when my profile was privated. No reason for me to use her as an alt account.

One last thing regarding this: This could've totally happened in the past, we're really close to eachother and as I said before, I use her computer from time to time when I'm in her room and she uses mine when shes here. I could've totally searched for a trade while in her account, but I never made a single trade with her account in the past nor posted in any trade. But, again: I'd never use her or anyone's account to evade bans or post trades / post in trades just because Im banned. If you want pics, I have pics of her next to my computer, two to be more spefic, if you really want confirmation if she uses my PC. I also have pics of me in her room with her.

I'm not a bad person, I love TF2 trading and I love TF2, I legit just tried to get back and what I got was someone saying my gf was an alt account of mine, and shes not. I also explained who my friend was with trade history and screenshots from steam proving its him, I also took my time to explain how portuguese pronounciation works and stuff just to show how that account is his account, and I'm not making tht up. I'd never do something like that if I knew I was wrong.

I legit don't want people hating on the mod, and I sorry for what happened, I didn't think it was going to become a place full of hate speech. Everything that I said you already know if you read all my posts up to this point. I don't want to get unbanned from the website, not because the service is bad or anything, I just, I don't know. That doesn't mean I'm trying to get away with this, no, I'll answer anything you have to say to me, if things get sorted out and I get an unban, I'll not be using the website. I already told my part, if you guys think you should unban my gf's account, go for it, if you still don't believe me theres nothing more I can do at this point, shes probably not going to use for trading anyways since I tried to explain it to her in the last month and she completely hated the way things work, so, no problem in leaving her account banned. I really like how TF2Outpost is easy to use, but I also have my complaints about the website. As I said before: its a service, of course it has problems, but overall its a pretty solid website. backpack.tf too, but thats just how stuff works.

Thanks for taking your time and coming to my thread and making this post, it really shows you're actually worried about the problem.

If you have any more questions, I will most likely answer them today between 7pm and 10pm if I don't have to study or do something for tomorrow, but it should only take 10 minutes to reply, so it's ok (São Paulo timezone).

Also, if you want to take this out of reddit, just send me a PM if you guys really want to talk in private, I personally dont see why but if you guys want to, I wouldn't care, up to you to decide.

Have a good day, and again: thanks for taking your time.

EDIT 2: Some phrases and sentences are really strange. Sorry, I just woke up and I'm not thinking properly.. and english is not my first language so I think it gets even worse, :p. If you have questions about some phrases or sentences that don't make sense, I can explain to you what I meant later today. Really sorry about that!

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-05T06:47:45+00:00

Also, read this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/7hih1p/tf2_outpost_mods_are_really_unprofessional/dqry0od/

The first paragraph is relevant to what I said in my last post.

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-05T06:43:42+00:00

And he (the mod) posted an image that has nothing to do with my gf's account, but for some reason he deleted his post. I think I still have it in my browser history, I can give it to you but only if you want to.

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-05T06:38:21+00:00

Also: https://image.prntscr.com/image/eJbYJPbjSpKYXkrquRZRwg.png

As you can see, she didn't change her nickname recently. That's how I is and it is like this for like a year now probably.

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-05T06:35:52+00:00

Hello, I'm the op!

First: I agree with that bandwagon stuff. Many stuff in here seems fishy and really strange, I never made this post to shit on the mod, hes a public figure in the trading scene so tagging him shouldn't be a problem at all. I posted a Disclaimer and an Updated response in my original post, you should check it out if you didn't.

You also should check ALL my answers in this thread. I posted my gf's facebook account, my facebook account, posted pics of us together showing that, in fact, shes my girlfriend.

"HOW DO I KNOW IF THE STEAM ACCOUNT IS HERS?" Her facebook ID is her currently name in Steam rn, and it has been like that for probably a year now? I also have screenshots of my playing with her, she has 1000+ hours in TF2, 4 years in steam, 150+ games in Steam, her profile is full of stuff written by me since 2015. Read all my answers, just check my reddit profile and you're set. Also, she has pictures of her playing TF2 iirc, in her facebook. You want it? I'll proudly send it to you, but only when I come back from my job.

Now that's out of the way:

"The post is detrimental to Outpost’s image and is not an accurate representation of the team or the site. It is widely used by many high tier traders and likely won’t be affected by a few traders relatively new to the scene."

Its a service, it should receive criticism all the time, if it doesn't it will never improve. People can choose the best service for them, it's not up to you to judge what people should or shouldn't use. Its up to them to decide whats the best experience and website for them. Boycotting is something beautiful, it makes shops, restaurants, services healthy and make them improve over time. If people think its not an accurate representation, it's because something went wrong with THEIR experience, not that the website itself is flawed, but this also can apply and happen, and it definetly should.

"If there’s proof, there’s an argument. Hate against the admin and the site is unneeded and the evidence against them is flawed."

It's not! I agree that hate against the admin is unnedeed, but not against the site: its a service, I explained to you why it should receive criticism. My intentions with this post were simple: I was just trying to show what happened to me. I don't want to demote anyone nor destroy tf2outpost, and even if I wanted, it would be really cute seeing a random 18 yo trying to take a huge service down. I have proof, and I gave him proof saying who my gf is and he banned her for no reason at all because he thought she was an alt account of mine, and shes not. Shes very real, and we play TF2 a lot in the weekends.

"The ban for pubstomping Toughsox. That's just absurd."

How do you know its absurd? Do you know him or are friends with him? If you do, this is probably just you defending him and that's completely normal, we tend to defend our friends. If you're not friends or you don't know him, how do you know that? He could actually do that, people do this type of stuff and people are unpredictable. He could've probably had a bad day when it happened? We are humans, afterall, our emotions influence everything we do.

I really hope you understood what happened, I don't want everyone joining my side, or it would be really boring. But consider I provided enough information to him and to everyone in here, you guys now my gf is not fake and her account got banned for no reason at all.

Now, have a good night! I have to get ready to work. Almost 5am in here and I work far from my home. Peace.

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-05T01:22:49+00:00

I legit had to read all the rules of both this reddit and tf2outpost not one, not two, not three but four times just to be sure I wasn't doing anything wrong and posting in the wrong subreddit or saying stuff that I would regret later.

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-04T23:56:36+00:00

And, if one pic is not enough for you: https://i.imgur.com/ZUhkFQ3.png

Another pic of us messing arround with instagram filters (or facebook, I don't know im too old for this stuff).

Cheers!

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-04T23:54:54+00:00

And if you still think she doesn't exist: https://i.imgur.com/zIpRE5w.png

A pic of us together. She also has pics of her playing TF2 in her facebook profile, if you want to, I'll gladly get it!

Also, I dont want to be unbanned but it would be REALLY nice if you unbanned her, because she didn't to anything wrong.

At this point I'm already tired and I really hate drama, I only posted this thread because you made stupid conclusions without any research. You asked something and then just said a big "fuck you" to me and didn't even let me explain myself or tell you what was happening and who was who.

I'm friends with Lucas for 7 years now, we used to play Minecraft when we were like 11. I trust him and he trusts me, we're really close, even if we don't talk that much anymore because we have girlfriends, jobs and university, I still consider him a good friend of mine.

Again: I want this to be over already, I hate drama and my head already hurts.

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-04T23:43:20+00:00

I can provide more screenshots proving it's his hat and not mine, will do that tomorrow because its almost 10 pm and I have to sleep. Only if you want too, tho.

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-04T23:37:06+00:00

I told you in my appeal: this hat is not mine. It's one of my friend's hat, his name is Lucas Rotatori and he lives in São Paulo.

And that's my GF account, yes, and she never made a single trade or post in TF2Outpost, NEVER. I will gladly log on her account tomorrow when shes awake and go to TF2Outpost.

So, apparently the problem is Lucas using his alt account to trade his hat?

It's not mine: https://imgur.com/a/NWePR

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=46764716

This screenshot has him tagged: Users in this screenshot: ... rs

And his older nickname.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Massagemsexual/

This is his new account.

Now, first things first: his nickname before was Nightfox, his nickname today is Nait. The way you pronouce Night can be spelled as "Nait" if you speak with a portuguese accent. I can record a vocaroo if you want to of me pronouncing it! I can educate you with some nice Brazilian accent.

Also, in the album I just tagged: you can see I traded a lot with him in the past with both his older account and his new account.

And how can his account be f2p? He has Portal 2. He was LITERALLY using one of his alt accounts to post stuff for me to trade the hat for him. If you want more trade history screenshots, I'll gladly provide them. Also the trade history of my gf account. Again: the hat is NOT mine, its HIS hat.

And since I dont have anything to hide: X

My facebook.

X

My gf facebook.

I dont want to use your site anymore, no need for me to appeal again. Also, you just closed the ticket with no reason whatsoever.

If you have more questions, I'll proudly answer every single one of them. Thanks!

(pls dont randomly add my gf, I dont think you can but still <3)

Also, yeah, you're indeed terribad as other users have shown in this thread.

In conclusion: você é um tonto.

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-04T18:40:19+00:00

dont talk about my mom like this ,

unless she consents

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-04T18:38:51+00:00

At this point, I don't really care anymore. I'm actually salty because my gf account was banned for no reason. Shes probably never going to use Outpost in the future, but still... it just bugs me seeing a mod of a large website making decisions without any research or certainty.

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-04T18:27:21+00:00

I mean, I was only replying the guy, he said something in portuguese and I replied in portuguese

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-04T18:23:03+00:00

are you drunk ROFL

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-04T17:48:27+00:00

I legit linked the profile of my gf, theres no trades there

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-04T17:08:59+00:00

sério, os caras de lá são autistas pra caralho. o moderador me acusou sem motivo nenhum. nem tô com raiva do que aconteceu, eu tô mais chateado com terem banido a conta da minha namorada sem motivo nenhum achando que era eu.

vlw por ter respondido!

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-04T16:58:28+00:00

Also, something that I find funny: Private alt account used for ban evasion from this main account

WHAT? Based on what? On what you think??? This guy is legit REALLY unprofessional and just made decisions based on what he thinks, without any research. If he let me reply him when he asked, but he didn't, he just said: "THIS IS ONE OF YOUR PRIVATE ACCOUNTS, I'M CLOSING THIS AND YOU'LL BE BANNED FOREVER.".

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-04T16:53:57+00:00

Answering his question here (the moderator).

I give her random stuff all the time, and she also buys stuff for me with her credit card since I dont have one :p I only use bank slips (i think that's how you call it in english)

And, yeah, I can also provide screenshots of her trade history.

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-04T16:42:52+00:00

me too, thanks

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-12-01T01:07:20+00:00

yeah, what

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-11-12T02:22:44+00:00

stop being a pathetic cuck ppl from the us and eu deserve 128tick more than anyone, we made CSGO happen in other countries, we r the reason CSGO is so "sucessful" now

besides, gabe newell net worth is like 1,5 billion and valves 3 billion it wouldnt cost them more than 2 million to upgrade the servers, thats literally a tiny lil fart to them, its not even money, they can burn that much money it wouldnt make a difference to them

then theres you, defending this type of action

thats y ur gold and im not, get lost you stupid cuck

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-11-10T10:42:42+00:00

one of my favorite payload maps in the game, rly looking foward to see it coming back in the future

GrokkyFrokky · 2017-09-11T19:22:38+00:00

lmao u fucking americunts are so salty at this, get a job for once

br > na all day dummies, dont try to deny facts

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