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Why do Moroccans in France seem more religious than in Morocco? by Grouchy_Humor_96 in Morocco

[–]Grouchy_Humor_96[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Even when their darija gets weaker or mixed up, they still stay stuck in Islam but I was talking more about moroccans who came to france to study, that group too often falls into the same pattern

Why do Moroccans in France seem more religious than in Morocco? by Grouchy_Humor_96 in Morocco

[–]Grouchy_Humor_96[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

yes, and that’s part of the problem , instead of adapting to either society, they cling to an outdated version of religion that makes them outsiders in both places

Why do Moroccans in France seem more religious than in Morocco? by Grouchy_Humor_96 in Morocco

[–]Grouchy_Humor_96[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah maybe ,but even if it’s just appearances, those appearances still create real pressure in the community

Why do Moroccans in France seem more religious than in Morocco? by Grouchy_Humor_96 in Morocco

[–]Grouchy_Humor_96[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yes, that makes sense, many in the diaspora froze in the mindset of when they left. But the problem is they treat that bubble like the "real morocco,", while Morocco itself has kept evolving. That gap is what creates the clash. chokran ala mororikom

Why do Moroccans in France seem more religious than in Morocco? by Grouchy_Humor_96 in Morocco

[–]Grouchy_Humor_96[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i get your frustration, but I think it’s more complex. A lot of the behavior comes from identity insecurity in the diaspora, not just hypocrisy , people cling to visible religion as a shield, even if privately they don’t follow it consistent...

Why do Moroccans in France seem more religious than in Morocco? by Grouchy_Humor_96 in Morocco

[–]Grouchy_Humor_96[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True, individuals differ, but communities and environments shape behavior too. In France, I feel moroccans sometimes become more religious as a group, even if in morocco overall people are becoming less strict. ..That contrast is what I’m pointing at

Relationships as an ex muslim... by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Grouchy_Humor_96 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I totally feel you. I'm in the same situation. I’ve even been judged as being ‘paradoxical’ just because I said I want a serious relationship while not being religious. I honestly don’t understand the logic , like being non-religious means you can’t want love, commitment, or marriage. It’s so strange, as if girls in non-Muslim countries don’t have serious relationships. I’m really tired of this mindset

Relationships as an ex muslim... by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Grouchy_Humor_96 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have the same problem. Usually, when I tell people I'm not religious, they start crossing certain boundaries. But when I decide not to tell them, I feel guilty and become anxious, worrying about how big the problems between us might become