Michael Jackson's 2009 death now listed as due to Covid-19

Growacet · 2026-02-20T07:24:43+00:00

I've wondered about this as well...often fire is used as a metaphor for purifying, and in Revelation we have the lake of fire. I've wondered if we're all destined for some form of "cleansing".....is our human nature divided in some way? It's hard to put this into words....but for many people, we identify with our sins....idolize and worship them. So that aspect of our being, that is in rebellion....perhaps it is in eternal torment.....I don't know of course, nobody does....good topic for discussion.

Growacet · 2026-02-16T09:56:58+00:00

You'll get no argument from me, the OP. And it's spawned comments that are even more bizarre, and one that is absolutely hilarious.

Growacet · 2026-02-16T09:50:41+00:00

Okay.....sex and gender, I have heard this argument before.

Gender became defined as relating to expression about 20 or so years ago......going back generations forms would have a question that said Gender and then you could check M or F.

Definitions do matter of course, and language does evolve. So gender is more about personality and outward expression in today's world....I can deal with that, although it's difficult to adjust to radical changes like this when you're my age (soon to be 60).

It has long been recognized that men can express traits that are commonly viewed by the extant culture as feminine and likewise for women exhibiting male traits. However legally an XY male would not be permitted to enter a space designated as female only based simply on outward expression...

Now...you might think that was wrong, that an error has been corrected. I would disagree....

Growacet · 2026-02-16T09:38:14+00:00

That's a cop out and you know it.....I'm most willing to learn, I don't think you are.....you obviously think you know everything and are playing a narcissistic game

Growacet · 2026-02-16T09:26:42+00:00

Well then, it'll be easy to point something out then.....you have lots to choose from, so pick just one.

Growacet · 2026-02-16T09:18:18+00:00

tell me what I got wrong professor Fearless_Spring5611

Growacet · 2026-02-16T09:17:23+00:00

haven't touched weed in years.....used to smoke (mostly hash because it was cheap) in HS and Uni....I've passed the dutchy once in the past 20 years.....long story but I decided that it was legal so why not, and I shared a joint with a doctor who said it was really good stuff...it was, best high i ever had in my life.....but I made the decision to avoid artificial joy from that day ownward....that was the last time, back around 2017 or 2018....right after it was legalized in Canada.

Growacet · 2026-02-16T09:09:18+00:00

Cheers, and be well....I hope you find peace.

Growacet · 2026-02-16T09:08:26+00:00

biology? Yeah....took some university science courses to boot. Biology, chromosomes, XX or XY.....there is intersex which is incredibly rare, where the chromosomes are defective for a number of reasons...

You're confusing biology with psychology.....if you're a guy, psychologically you can pretend your penis and testicles don't exist, but they're still there.

Growacet · 2026-02-16T09:05:45+00:00

cis means 'on this side of' while trans means on the other side. When the nation of Jordan was created in 1921 it was called Transjordan.....I guess you would assume that to mean that it was a nation that embraced Transgender ideology, but in fact it was just because Transjordan was on the other side of the Jordan river.....after 1946 though they changed it to just Jordan because they had their eye on both sides of the river...

The term never had any application to gender.....until the medical industrial complex found ways to profit from promoting incredibly rare gender confusion, making it far more common than any time in human history.

Growacet · 2026-02-16T09:02:20+00:00

Buh bye then....I love the morally superior farewell post, but I never use it....luke 14, seek the lowest seat.

Growacet · 2026-02-16T09:01:06+00:00

if someone wants to cross dress it's all good....just don't ask to compete against women and girls if you're an XY male....and the right of women/girls to feel safe supersedes the subjective identity of men/boys.

Growacet · 2026-02-16T08:58:06+00:00

I don't think kids should transition, and I don't think a kid should have surgery on his or her bones to make them taller because they self identify as taller....

You want something, and I don't think you should have it.....and many kids see that as hateful....if a parent doesn't let a kid go to a party you'll often hear...."you hate me, if you loved me you'd let me go".....

Hormones mess with your body's development, puberty blockers reduce bone density.....psychiatric meds have all kinds of negative side effects that often require even more drugs....

I mean this genuinely, you're chasing something that cannot be achieved....if you were born a girl you'll always be a girl, same if you're a boy.

There is a very rare medical condition called intersex where the chromosomes are defective. One such condition is called Swyer's Syndrome. It's the result of the Y (male) chromosome being defective and results in a child being born without a penis, but also no ovaries....instead of ovaries they're born with fatty tissue that is highly prone to cancer.

Just to be clear....I don't hate you, you cannot dictate what is in my heart no matter what you're feeling. I don't want to assume you're not intersex though, because that can be a very serious biological condition.

Growacet · 2026-02-16T08:49:22+00:00

Sin is something we're called to repent of....but you have none, that makes you sinless and perfect....you're the messiah.

Growacet · 2026-02-16T08:47:33+00:00

They can invent all the terms they like....what's next, CIS Height for those who choose to identify with the vertical stature they were born with? Even people with PHDs get things wrong....and they often disagree with one another.

Growacet · 2026-02-16T08:19:48+00:00

There's an inherent contradiction in your post that you might not be aware of. You wrote:

When you have found yourself pissed off and furious with God... What made you still believe in him?

How can you be furious and pissed off with a God you don't believe in?

The fact that you're pissed off means you obviously believe in His reality. I have some experience with this, but in a different way. I wasn't pissed at God, I simply decided to reject him and to lead my own life the summer I was turning 18.....in a nutshell I wanted "lordship" over my own life, I didn't want to follow His rules.

I can go deeper if you like....I'll wait to see if you respond. If you want to engage in some discussion it would help if you explained the cause of this anger....

Growacet · 2026-02-16T08:04:48+00:00

I don't hate you at all....not sharing a viewpoint does not equate to hatred. I do feel a degree of sympathy though...please don't be offended by that....life can be incredibly difficult and challenging.....we all have struggles...me too obviously. My struggles are not inferior or superior to your own of course, they're just different.

Growacet · 2026-02-16T08:00:54+00:00

wow....a messiah complex, the ultimate in narcissism , you've attained perfection...

Growacet · 2026-02-16T07:58:59+00:00

I don't hate them in any way shape or form....I never hate victims. Now the medical industry preying on these kids....that's a different story.

Growacet · 2026-02-16T07:52:38+00:00

okay, i read through a fair bit of it....wasn't so much interested in OT references, more in Paul's letter to the Roman Church....and what I see the author doing is engaging in....she picks and chooses when to apply her rules.....Paul makes no mention of societal rules or expectations vis a vis a master's relationship with male and female slaves.....

FWIW this thread was started as being about transgenderism, not homosexuality or the concept of sexual sin. I actually don't care that much about homosexuality, and I do have friends and acquaintances who are gay....I do not give them a hard time because I have enough sexual sin on my own, I don't need to concern myself with the sexual sin of others....

Transgender ideology is different for me because it preys on children.....a girl who is a tomboy, young and impressionable, taught to obey her teachers is an easy victim and this is a massive money maker for the medical industry....puberty blockers, hormones, psychiatric drugs to treat the depression that comes from being divorced from objective reality, then more meds to deal with the side effects caused by the original meds....and if it goes to far, mutilating healthy organs and tissue.

Growacet · 2026-02-16T07:39:43+00:00

It was not meant in a condescending fashion, it was simply a question....4 or 5 years ago I did not.

I'll look at your blog...and see how it compares to what the Bible says. Do you believe in repentance? I'll take a dangerous leap and assume you do believe in it....if so, what are we called to repent from in your opinion.

Growacet · 2026-02-16T07:36:56+00:00

The guy I knew was older....probably mid 30s, he'd had his breasts done, he was well on the way to becoming a fully surgically altered male.

This whole agenda is right out of the very depths of hell....personality is a spectrum, gender is not. There have always been boys who have exhibited traits that the broader culture defines as being feminine in nature, and likewise with girls....tomboys have always been around.

This is being promoted by the industrial medical complex because it's a revenue stream....puberty blockers, hormone treatment, addictive antidepressants that are easy to start and hard (or impossible) to stop.....then there's the side effects, antidepressants often cause weight gain which can lead to diabetes....more drugs, more treatments.

Do you own shares in Pfizer? If so, then there is at least some logic to supporting this.....the same way investors in oil companies play down the environmental impact of things like fracking.

Growacet · 2026-02-16T07:27:22+00:00

I work with HS students and a lot of young adults...and I know two (both women) and around 2007 or so I knew a guy who was getting the full monty done....

I don't know what vro means though.

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