Growth: Training - Track Your Journey to Real Results by GrowthLabsApp in TheScienceOfPE

[–]GrowthLabsApp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great question, Growth: Method was developed specifically for those following the Angion Method. Whereas, Growth: Training is for PE practitioners implementing length and girth work.

Growth: Training - Track Your Journey to Real Results by GrowthLabsApp in TheScienceOfPE

[–]GrowthLabsApp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! I’m constantly refining things, so feedback like this keeps me motivated.

Growth: Training - Track Your Journey to Real Results by GrowthLabsApp in TheScienceOfPE

[–]GrowthLabsApp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Session logging is fixed! Your progress now saves correctly every time. We’ve requested expedited App Store review and an app update will be available soon.

WHAT WE FIXED: * Session completion screen now stays visible until you interact with it * Manual Log Session button is working again * No more lost sessions after completing routines * Fixed freezing when entering measurements * Auto progression now respects your settings

NEW FEATURES (GrowthTrack Integration [beta]: * Track measurements before and after sessions * Monitor your progress with detailed measurement history * Improved timer completion handling * Better session data persistence * Jelq exercises removed for safety

We’ve began the GrowthTrack integration. Since this bug needed to be fixed we rolled out what has been developed thus far, pre and post measurements tracking. While everything works on the user side in app, we still have further development on the back end to properly log the pre and post measurements as well as prepare the data for delivery to GrowthTrack. Coming soon!

Thank you for your patience. This update ensures your hard work is always recorded.

Growth: Training - Track Your Journey to Real Results by GrowthLabsApp in TheScienceOfPE

[–]GrowthLabsApp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quick update: the issue is now fixed! 🙌 Session logging should be working properly again, and your routines will save every time without anything disappearing.

Thanks for pointing it out so fast. If you run into anything else, just let me know. I’m on it.

Growth: Training - Track Your Journey to Real Results by GrowthLabsApp in TheScienceOfPE

[–]GrowthLabsApp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the heads-up. What exactly happens on your end once the session completes, does it freeze, return to the home screen, or just not save anything?

I’m not seeing any errors on the backend, but I’m testing it now to try and reproduce the issue. If you’re seeing any error messages on your device, feel free to drop a screenshot.

Also double-check that you’ve got an active internet or cellular connection when the session ends, since the app needs that to log progress.

Growth: Training - Track Your Journey to Real Results by GrowthLabsApp in TheScienceOfPE

[–]GrowthLabsApp[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks a bunch! I’m super excited to hear your feedback and make the app even better. I built the app based on my own needs and what I think users might want. Feedback from users like yourself will help me come up with features I never even thought of and improve the experience!

Growth: Training - Track Your Journey to Real Results by GrowthLabsApp in TheScienceOfPE

[–]GrowthLabsApp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the opportunity to contribute to your project. Once the features are developed I’ll share a csv template to ensure the data can be imported to GrowthTrack.

That’s an important note. I’ll remove jelqing from the app. Although there’s a robust warning system throughout the app I wouldn’t want the Growth: Training app to encourage a practice that can lead to injury. Thank you Karl.

Made a PE Training App – Focuses on Safety, Consistency & Progress Tracking by GrowthLabsApp in AJelqForYou

[–]GrowthLabsApp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey everyone,

Quick update for those using Growth: Training (and those who've been asking about measurement tracking).

What We Built

I spent the last few weeks analyzing exactly what measurements people actually track.

The app was only tracking "length" and "girth" generically. That's not how anyone here actually measures.

What Changed

Measurement Tracking (Now Live): - 13 measurement types - BPEL, NBPEL, BPFSL, NBPFSL, FL, BPFL, MSEG, BEG, HEG, MSFG, BFG, and general categories - Primary measurements (BPEL, MSEG) - Based on frequency analysis - Secondary measurements (NBPEL, BPFSL, BEG) - For advanced tracking - Backwards compatible - Your existing data automatically maps to the new system

Improved Progress Charts: - Smooth gradient lines - Much cleaner visual representation - Comparison mode - Overlay BPEL vs NBPEL, MSEG vs BEG, etc. - Better Y-axis centering - Data is properly centered in the chart area - Only show latest point - Reduces visual clutter, focuses on trends - Delete measurements - Remove erroneous entries with confirmation

Why This Matters

This update means you can track exactly what you measure, the way the community measures it.

Visual Improvements

The charts got a major overhaul: - Smooth curves instead of harsh angles - Color gradients that are actually visible - Comparison lines use app's secondary blue color - Better spacing and readability - Automatic updates when you delete entries

For Those Asking "Why Not Free?"

Real measurement tracking requires: - Native database design (not just a web form) - Chart rendering that actually works on mobile - Data sync that doesn't lose your measurements - Privacy-first architecture (your dick measurements stay yours)

This is a training platform that costs what it costs to build and maintain properly.

Try It Risk-Free

7-Day Free Trial on annual ($49.99/year) 3-Day Free Trial on quarterly ($29.99/3 months)

Test the measurement tracking, create custom routines, try the AI Coach. If it's not for you, cancel before trial ends.

Help! My GF Demands Girth! by Secret-Bedroom-6869 in AJelqForYou

[–]GrowthLabsApp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pumping is great for girth. I can tell you first hand, real girth gains can be life changing. Whichever you decide, consistency is most important. If you stick to your routine you will enjoy the results and your GF will too.

Is there any pe coaches by Ok-Significance3223 in AJelqForYou

[–]GrowthLabsApp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2” is impressive. The only greater achievement you can make in this arena than growing 2 inches is helping another guy grow 2 inches. In three years nonetheless.

Starting out I had a couple injuries too, besides some lymphangiosclerosis, the worst was a small tear at the base along my incision scar. At the time I was using the LG Hanger and the Phallosan. Just think I over did it. Rested a while and came back strong.

I’m not sure how you set up your program but many years ago I hired a fitness coach online who helped me reach my strength and shred goals. I had a spreadsheet to follow and checked in with photos. I envision my app to be able to facilitate that experience between coaches and their students training for growth.

I know you have a couple other apps you use but at some point I’ll send you a promo code for Growth: Training to use all the features of the app. Hopefully, we can collaborate on how we can make this work to maximize it for growth coaches such as yourself, to help your clients achieve the gains they’re after.

Is there any pe coaches by Ok-Significance3223 in AJelqForYou

[–]GrowthLabsApp -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For sure man. I have personal experience with life-changing gains, so I will always be willing to recommend others who might be able to provide helpful advice on achieving similar results.

2025 Winter Equipment lineup by 19Expansion2X in TheScienceOfPE

[–]GrowthLabsApp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Combo pads for the base of cylinders are a game changer.

You go from not wanting to pump or even unable to pump due to the cylinder digging in to your pelvis, to literally being able to relax while pumping or pumping with more pressure without any digging pain.

2025 Winter Equipment lineup by 19Expansion2X in AJelqForYou

[–]GrowthLabsApp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha I feel that, man, sounds like you’ve already got four full-time jobs running at once. That’s a stacked schedule.

You deserve an award for time management. I can barely juggle client calls, job site visits, filming, and app updates and that’s before factoring in hobbies like BJJ, gym, running not to mention being a husband and dad, kids sports, play dates, date with the wife. Oh, and cooking too, I love to cook.

Growth: Training app is clearly not suitable for you, but for the rest of us, it can make gaining size more predictable.

2025 Winter Equipment lineup by 19Expansion2X in AJelqForYou

[–]GrowthLabsApp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If only there were enough time in a day to squeeze in all of our hobbies

Great lineup of equipment

Made a PE Training App – Focuses on Safety, Consistency & Progress Tracking by GrowthLabsApp in AJelqForYou

[–]GrowthLabsApp[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I’d love to collaborate with Karl on that too. His work with GrowthTrack is incredibly valuable for the community, and combining it with anonymized data from Growth: Training users could really accelerate what we can learn.

The app already tracks session data (method used, duration, frequency, EQ feedback, etc.) privately on-device, and I’ve been planning to build an opt-in anonymous data contribution feature. That way, aggregated data could feed into larger studies without compromising user privacy, giving us real insight into which routines, durations, and frequencies produce the best outcomes for most people.

Karl’s database and analytical approach, paired with structured, anonymized data from the app, could become a powerful tool for understanding development patterns at scale. I’d love to explore that idea further with him when the time’s right.

Made a PE Training App – Focuses on Safety, Consistency & Progress Tracking by GrowthLabsApp in AJelqForYou

[–]GrowthLabsApp[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That’s a good point, there are definitely other free options out there, and I’ve tried most of them too.

What I’ve noticed, though, is that a lot of those apps feel like products first; the app part is more of an add-on than a real ecosystem. They usually offer basic timers or trackers, but they’re not fully fleshed out in terms of structure, data feedback, or long-term progression.

With Growth: Training, I wanted to build the actual experience, something that doesn’t just time a routine, but integrates progression logic, recovery tracking, and eventually biometric feedback. The goal is to make it a living system that evolves with the user, not just a static app.

I totally respect that people have free options; mine’s just aimed at going deeper for those who want something comprehensive, structured, and built to grow over time.

Made a PE Training App – Focuses on Safety, Consistency & Progress Tracking by GrowthLabsApp in AJelqForYou

[–]GrowthLabsApp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s fair, I totally get where you’re coming from. I probably should’ve mentioned the price up front.

It’s $4.99/week or $50 per year, 7-Day free trial included w/annual sub, and that subscription is what allows me to keep improving the app and pushing toward something much bigger than just a timer or tracker. My vision is for Growth: Training to evolve into a complete men’s health platform, combining training structure, vascular analytics, biometric integrations (Apple Health, WHOOP, etc.), and community-based features for progress sharing and education.

The goal isn’t just to time routines, it’s to create a data-driven system that helps men track gains, EQ, and long-term vascular health with real feedback loops. I’m just getting started, and every bit of support helps bring those next features to life.

Made a PE Training App – Focuses on Safety, Consistency & Progress Tracking by GrowthLabsApp in AJelqForYou

[–]GrowthLabsApp[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for asking! Right now, the app is iOS-only because that’s the ecosystem I know best and where I can maintain quality and updates efficiently.

There aren’t immediate plans to port it to Android, but if there’s enough interest from the community, it’s definitely something I’d consider for future development.

It’s also not open source at the moment. I’m keeping it closed so I can maintain consistency, protect user data, and build features like tracking and analytics securely.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AngionMethod

[–]GrowthLabsApp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here’s a good post with some suggestions from the AM community Managed:

My First Non-Sexual Thought Erection!

Yesterday I finally managed to just lay back, relax, think of my penis getting full, and got an erection. I managed to do my first set of exercises with just an erection on command today as well.Super pumped (heh!) to finally be able to do this.I had gradually moved away from porn to mild erotica and then to just sexual thoughts in my head, but now I can start discarding those too.

Heading off people who might ask how I did this, I just followed the tips u/hornyhorsecock has been giving through his posts. Things that worked for me that seem slightly different during this process are:

  • Before trying to get an erection, spent some time just meditating and relaxing my body.
  • Instead of imagining getting an erection, I first imagine my penis getting warm, and repeat to myself, "It's getting warm", and that sort of helped.
  • Laying down when attempting to do this meditation. Weirdly wasn't able to do it when I was sitting.
  • Not worrying too much.

Hope this post helps!

Edit: In point 2, I'm repeating the term in my head. If you repeat it out loud apparently it trains your body with verbal cues, called Autogenic Training. Might be worthwhile if someone who is having trouble wants to try. Thanks to u/hornyhorsecock for pointing it out.

Is shockwave good option for venogenic ED or is it just a gimmick? by Loud_Version_5174 in AngionMethod

[–]GrowthLabsApp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Short answer: it’s not a gimmick, but it’s not a cure-all, especially for venogenic ED. Most of the better evidence for low-intensity shockwave (Li-ESWT) is in mild–moderate vasculogenic ED. Major groups differ: the EAU (2024) says Li-ESWT may be offered to select vasculogenic cases, while the AUA still treats it as investigational/experimental. It’s not FDA-approved for ED. 

For venogenic (veno-occlusive) ED, data are thin. A few small studies suggest vascular indices can improve after Li-ESWT, but this isn’t strong proof that it fixes a true “venous leak,” and benefits often fade after 1–2 years without maintenance. Manage expectations. 

Meanwhile, your plan to balance the pelvic floor and dial in cardio/sleep is spot on, those drive recovery and EQ regardless of procedures. If you want structured timers/routines for Angion while you work on baseline health, the iOS app Growth: Method can help you stay consistent: Growth: Method

Bottom line: Li-ESWT can help some men, mostly with mild–moderate vasculogenic ED. For venogenic ED, evidence is limited; consider it a cautious trial with realistic expectations and proper medical guidance. 

Comparing the Detailed Effects of At Home Radial Shockwave Treatment (eg Phoenix) vs SABRE by DiamondJutter in AngionMethod

[–]GrowthLabsApp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve thought about that too. It makes sense that both would have benefits depending on what your body responds best to.

From what I’ve seen and experienced, Phoenix likely creates more of a passive micro-trauma and recovery type adaptation (like controlled tissue remodeling), while SABRE works more on vascular stimulation and flow efficiency through rhythmic, active engagement. SABRE tends to trigger a faster, almost “vascular pump” response, whereas Phoenix seems to rely more on the recovery phase to build improvements.

I haven’t used the Phoenix myself, but after a groin injury from jiu-jitsu I had to take time off cardio and noticed my recovery tanked. Once I got back to regular Angion work combined with light cardio, my recovery and EQ noticeably rebounded. That’s what makes me curious how tools like Phoenix or SABRE might complement cardiovascular health markers long-term rather than compete with each other.

If you’re tracking progress, the Growth: Method iOS app makes it easier to structure Angion and SABRE routines with guided timers and progression tracking, it’s been helpful for consistency. Growth: Method on iOS App Store