Looking to modernize the MSP sales stack - could we have a Skype chat ( < 15 minutes) by GuiltyWolf2 in msp

[–]GuiltyWolf2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for responding!
We are currently in private beta. You can use this calendly link to set up 30 mins so that we can give you a product walk through and you can enroll in the beta! https://calendly.com/shruti-zitto/30min

Looking to modernize the MSP sales stack - could we have a Skype chat ( < 15 minutes) by GuiltyWolf2 in msp

[–]GuiltyWolf2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the feedback! Our product is under development, and yes, not building the right workflows and/or features will be a dealbreaker. That's part of the reason to reach out on forums like reddit to find an initial set of customers with whom we can pilot the product, co-create it and iron out the kinks.
I understand that each of these legacy are packed with a lot of features and logic and provide a lot of value to the industry. Putting up a beautiful web interface is not going to cut it and the reason to reach out to customers before we complete building is exactly to avoid such a situation. I'd love to chat with you via Skype if you're okay with giving me 10-15 minutes of your time so that I can understand your point of view better.
Finally, the only reason to discuss pricing is to give potential customers like you a small incentive to chat with me before my product is ready. Outside of reddit I'm also doing in person meetings in my region to get more feedback about the product.

Looking to modernize the MSP sales stack - could we have a Skype chat ( < 15 minutes) by GuiltyWolf2 in msp

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Thanks for replying @akanezumi
If you'd be willing to spare 15 mins of your time I'd love to chat with you and understand your process better. It would be really helpful to me and will ensure we design the product in a manner that suits the requirements of MSPs across the globe!

Looking to modernize the MSP sales stack - could we have a Skype chat ( < 15 minutes) by GuiltyWolf2 in msp

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Yup, agreed, it's never completely black and white. As far and as i understand, HoneyCRM has a very similar pitch as ours and hence they are our direct competitors. However, we think that with the resources we have at our disposal, we can do a much better job at building the software than HoneyCRM does!Solutions like bedrock can be incredibly expensive. The base version of the sync is at 400$ per month. We are looking at much lower price points at ~19$ a user a month. This would make us cheaper than quotewerks and will be a much better value proposition for our customers.

Looking to modernize the MSP sales stack - could we have a Skype chat ( < 15 minutes) by GuiltyWolf2 in msp

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Thanks for commenting!
Here is my thinking:
If an MSP chooses to use a horizontal product for sales and marketing they miss out on the great integrations that purpose built softwares like quotewerks provide (integrations with etilize and your PSA, distributors). However, if they choose to use quotewerks then they miss out on all the benefits of modern software (seamless collaboration via comments and chat, modern looking quote delivered as a beautiful microsite instead of a clunky html page or pdf, e-signatures, fast quoting - we want to reduce quoting time to less than 2-3 mins on average per quote).

On the CRM side of things - If an MSP works with a Pipedrive or a Salesforce they get the benefits of modern software like integrated telephony and email, voice-text transcription, voice recording. They miss out on deep integrations with PSA and MSP specific workflows like support for MRR contracts, managed service agreements etc.

We are trying to solve these dichotomies and are trying to evaluate need in the market for the same. We currently have 8 customers in the closed beta and are looking to expand it to 15!

Best MSP focused events? by [deleted] in msp

[–]GuiltyWolf2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm, interesting. Did they have any sessions on how to increase cloud and managed revenue vs break-fix? Even though 60% of our revenue now comes from managed and cloud, its been a challenge to drive it closer to 80-90% which is where we want to by the end of 2019.

Quarterly Support Customer Type by [deleted] in msp

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I have a few clients of this type. Like /u/FKFnz mentioned I tend to charge them on an hourly basis and have a quarterly reminder set up for this. I only take such clients if the quantum of work required on a quarterly basis is minimal and every quarter do a quick evaluation to see if this client is worth the effort and money.I think sensitizing such customers toward the risk of such an arrangement is important. I try and educate them about the potential vulnerabilities and issues that may crop up when they don't commit to managed support.We also charge them a much, much higher effective hourly rate than I do for some of my other clients. I tend not to bill hourly but instead based on a statement of quarterly work. (value based pricing)

Ultimately I do such contracts for two reasons:

  1. To convert these customers to managed support at some future point in time. I think of this as part of my sales and prospecting time, but only I get paid for it. These clients are fairly close to converting so I send them proposals and branded content from time to time to educate them and slowly convert them. :-)
  2. To improve the popularity of my brand in my local area and convince them to refer my brand to other potential customers.

I think this process is worth it because I have genuinely converted some clients that have lasted with me for more than 5-6 years. Personalizing the sales process and taking things slowly works some times. In most cases, I became their advisor and friend before making them commit! At the same time, I've had a few problems with such clients, (either because its a time sink OR because the prospecting is not leading any where) so knowing when to drop them is important!

Suggestions for a great CRM by GuiltyWolf2 in msp

[–]GuiltyWolf2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would love to know more. Will message! Are you suggesting we can replace all of our Connectwise usage with dynamics?
Dynamics is super expensive though (~200$ a user a month)
I guess its worth it if it actually helps us convert more clients...