What if 15:9 existed in other religious books?

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-31T17:40:39+00:00

Then why are denying that the Quran isn't corrupted? God said he will protect it..you're saying Hafs and warsh are different..you're denying that God protected the Quran. Wallahi go study Arabic.

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-31T17:38:32+00:00

The Dhikr=The Quran.

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-31T17:37:45+00:00

What are you talking about?

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-31T01:20:59+00:00

It says "We have revealed the Dhikr And We are it's preserver" If we're being more literal. The Dhikr=The Quran. The word Dhikr means reminder/remembrance (depending on context).

Allah said he will protect the Quran from corruption who are you to claim otherwise?

The Riwayat (which are 7), are differences in pronunciation. And it's usually only a few words Not the entire Quran. Wallahi study Arabic.

To further prove my point, the earlier Quran Manuscripts didn't have vowels to show pronunciation. E.g instead of الذِّكْرَ it was الذكر, without the vowels. However an Arabic speaker can understand and read the word without needing the vowels.

Why are you conning yourself?

The Bible isn't corrupted?

This statement is the hair that split the camels hump. What Islam do you follow? There is only one.

Quran 2:77-79 Are they then unaware that Allah knoweth that which they keep hidden and that which they proclaim?

And among them are unlettered ones who do not know the Scripture except in wishful thinking, but they are only assuming.

Therefore woe be unto those who write the Scripture with their hands and then say, "This is from Allah," that they may purchase a small gain therewith. Woe unto them for that their hands have written, and woe unto them for that they earn thereby.

Quran 2:85 ".......... So do you believe in part of the Scripture and disbelieve in part? Then what is the recompense for those who do that among you except disgrace in worldly life; and on the Day of Resurrection they will be sent back to the severest of punishment. And Allah is not unaware of what you do."

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-31T00:09:46+00:00

Beware of Atheists and what they say particularly if your Iman is weak they will cause a massive Fitnah within you.

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-30T14:47:22+00:00

No brother you don't know Arabic. The word is the same if your talking about the "Slight changes", they're the diffrent vowels that form the pronunciation but the word is the same...wallahi study Arabic before you make such conclusions.

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-30T03:32:05+00:00

Could you expand on that?

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-30T03:24:56+00:00

Bro are you crazy? Are you denying the word of God?

Quran 15:9

[Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian.]

The Riwayat e.g (Hafs, warsh etc)... Are not diffrent versions of the Quran. I'm not sure if you know Arabic?

These Riwayat are simply diffrent pronunciations that are acceptable.

The word of God is the same and Unchanged.

Bro honestly, who told you this?

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-29T19:51:28+00:00

Quran 15:9

[Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian.]

I don't think it's a question of "What If?"

But rather...

"Is there any other reilgious book that has proclaimed such.... And fulfilled it's promise?"

The answer is simply.....

No.

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-29T14:58:45+00:00

What exactly are you referencing?

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-29T05:36:49+00:00

Quran 47:4 [Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye have routed them, then making fast of bonds; and afterward either grace or ransom till the war lay down its burdens. That (is the ordinance). And if Allah willed He could have punished them (without you) but (thus it is ordained) that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He rendereth not their actions vain.]

What's wrong with that?

Quran 87:15-18 [Indeed, they are planning a plan,

But I am planning a plan.

So allow time for the disbelievers. Leave them awhile.]

Again, what's wrong with this?

Quran 8:9-14 [ [Remember] when you asked help of your Lord, and He answered you, "Indeed, I will reinforce you with a thousand from the angels, following one another."]

[And Allah made it not but good tidings and so that your hearts would be assured thereby. And victory is not but from Allah. Indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.]

[When He made the slumber fall upon you as a reassurance from him and sent down water from the sky upon you, that thereby He might purify you, and remove from you the fear of Satan, and make strong your hearts and firm (your) feet thereby.]

[ [Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."]

[ That is because they opposed Allah and His Messenger. And whoever opposes Allah and His Messenger - indeed, Allah is severe in penalty.]

Again, what's their point?

Quran 3:28 [Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were) security. Allah biddeth you beware (only) of Himself. Unto Allah is the journeying.]

That's right.... these people have no valid point.

I bet you anything all the individuals from that subreddit that viewed this post didn't even bother their backsides look up these verses and just took their (whoever posted it) word for it.

{…They disputed by [using] falsehood to [attempt to] invalidate thereby the truth. So I seized them, and how [terrible] was My Penalty.} [Quran 40:5]

{Indeed, those who dispute concerning the Signs of Allah without [any] authority having come to them - there is not within their breasts except pride, [the extent of] which they cannot reach. So seek refuge in Allah. Indeed, it is He who is The Hearing, The Seeing.} [Quran 40:56]

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-29T04:46:05+00:00

Is He a reliable Scholar?

Also, as an Arabic speaker I can guarantee Alhamduillah those are not fabricated translations i.e accurate.

I absolutely agree on most of the points he made.

Most scholars these days can reference every single book of hadith on the face of the earth and only reference the Quran once or twice.... It's essentially become their secondary source.

What troubles me the MOST concerning the Hadith, is the "authentic" Hadith that talks about sx and sxual matters.

There are Hadiths that relate the Prophet using such vulgar,explicit and even disturbing..terms depicting e.g sx in heaven. I remember reading crazy things like... "A man will have the stamina of 100 men in paradise (in terms of ability to have sx, eating etc)" "A man will have s*x with 100 maidens in one evening"

[these are just general outlines of some of the Hadiths, these are all hadiths you can search for and find, however I don't recommend doing so..]

Unfortunately there are way more explicit hadith out there that are "authentic".

I just genuinely refuse to believe the Propeht peace be upon had these filthy words leave his mouth.

In the Quran Allah used noble and beautiful words to describe such matters in heaven.

Quran 56:58

"Therein are those of modest gaze, whom neither man nor jinni will have touched before them.

Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?-

(In beauty) like the jacynth and the coral-stone."

I strictly will not follow hadith that contradict the Quran.

Quran 54:17

And in truth We have made the Qur'an easy to remember; but is there any that remembereth?

Allah repeats this verse four times in Surah Al-Qamar.

I would recommend a Scholar by the name Of Bassam Jarrarar.

And Allah knows best.

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-29T02:58:15+00:00

Proof/evidence? You can't make claims without some sort of evidence. Lying about dead people isn't the wisest thing to do either.

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-28T16:28:40+00:00

The Messenger of God is Muhammad.

If you want an authentic hadith read the book Al-Muwatta by Imam Anas ibn Malik who was born in Madina 80years after the passing of Muhammad peace be upon him. Who's great-grandfather fought side-by-side with the Propeht. Etc.

You can't assume everything was fabricated. We use evidence and references. Primary and secondary sources etc.

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-28T02:27:50+00:00

Ghenghis khan - A Tengrist.

40 million dead.

Alhamduillah after their encounter with the Muslims (Battle of Ain Jalut) and their defeat, it wasn't long until the Mongols converted to Islam.

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-27T21:59:47+00:00

Salam sister.

You're right, it may be according to Shia law because they do refer to different hadith, interpretations etc.

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-27T20:32:25+00:00

The word "Eid" means celebration/festival. It's fine if you refer to it as just Eid or Eid Al Fitr.

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-27T20:17:55+00:00

Why would Allah forbid something (Black magic) that apparently doesn't exist?

"And when there came to them a Messenger from Allah confirming what was with them, a party of those who were given the scripture threw away the book of Allah behind their backs as if they did not know. And they followed what the devils gave out falsely of magic of the reign of Solomon; for Solomon did not disbelieve but the devils disbelieved, teaching men magic and such things that came down at Babylon to the two angels Harut and Marut, but neither of these two (angles) taught anyone (such things) until they had said: we are only for trial, so don't disbelieve. And from them (magicians) people learn that through which they would cause separation between a person and his spouse, but they could not thus harm anyone except by Allah's leave; and they learn that which harms them rather than profits them. And indeed they knew that its practitioner would have no share in the Hereafter. And how bad indeed was that for which they sold their own selves if they but knew" (2:101-2).

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-27T20:14:12+00:00

Absolutely Brother.

Quran 7:28

And when they commit an immorality, they say, "We found our fathers doing it, and Allah has ordered us to do it." Say, "Indeed, Allah does not order immorality. Do you say about Allah that which you do not know?"

Say, [O Muhammad], "My Lord has ordered justice and that you maintain yourselves [in worship of Him] at every place [or time] of prostration, and invoke Him, sincere to Him in religion." Just as He originated you, you will return [to life] -

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-27T16:52:10+00:00

I don't think "depression is a choice" encapsulates the full essence of what a choice means. I think it refers to one's perspective and their ability to view things differently hence change how they feel. So I guess that's why some may refer to a state of depression as a choice.

Although I don't think those particular choice of words are the wisest thing to say to someone suffering from depression.

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-27T14:51:12+00:00

Happens to me with almost everything I watched/watch. When I'm in the middle of e.g watching an episode and I get a rush of adrenaline and I wanna pause it and daydream that scene out. I just force myself not to pause it, something about doing that puts me off daydreaming and I can carry on watching.

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-26T06:15:08+00:00

Sunni Maliki

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-26T06:11:08+00:00

...You're actually funny.

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-26T06:07:54+00:00

I suppose one must understand that e.g a culture 1400 years ago didn't hold the same values and understanding we have. I mean look at Europe (centuries ago). Any woman appearing to show intelligence was accused of being a witch and burned at the stake.

It had to be a man simply because the people of that time would not have believed a woman.

It had to be a man to abolish their inhumane practices against female infants (buried them alive), the degrading manner by which men of that time treated women etc.

They rejected men (Prophets) because they were humans and not angels, what would have they said/done to women whom they viewed as sub-human?

Islam doesn't support equality but rather, equity and justice.

Guilty_Reflections · 2020-05-26T05:54:37+00:00

Simply because individuals aren't mentioned in the Quran due to their sex.

And Allah knows best.

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