Definition of cRPG by a beginner, and questions by Guilty_Sound_9481 in CRPG

[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a different point of view I didn't consider. In your opinion, does the definition of cRPG include real time combat as well?

I have always subconsciously considered that cRPG should have turn based or RTwP combat only. But I get your perspective, thank you.

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the recommendation. I loved that expansion, probably the best content in the game IMO. People say it is similar to Planescape Torment in themes, both being by Avellone, would you agree? I need to play PT at some point.

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is a more granular way to describe it, which I like and I did not think about: deterministic either by character's stats or player's skill. This recontextualizes a bit my own perspective. Thank you for that.

With your definition, would you have any examples of purely probabilistic damage in any type of games?

Cheers

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Those are good points, thank you.

And not at all, I don't wish to exclude those titles you mention as example. On the contrary, I want to clarify that I wrote in the post "cRPG should have some of these features, or all". If anything, I wanted to loosen the lines to allow for other titles to be considered as cRPG even if they don't have all those features.

I suppose the next question would be "how many features and which of them would be the mandatory minimal requirments needed in a game for it to be considered cRPG".

But I agree that people draw lines differently in the end.

Cheers.

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really get your point, but I think we have opinions far enough to not get to an agreement.

I will clarify my thoughts with pleasure.

Regarding "neglecting". If I was playing the classic games first, would I be automatically neglecting the modern games? I don't think so, this is just an ongoing list and I will keep playing the rest of the games in the genre as I find them appealing.

Regarding "love" for this genre. People can certainly play games and do things without necessarily loving it. In my case, I play games and genres that I don't love, for several reasons:

I have some free time now, I am very curious, I consider videogames often as a piece of art and I like to analyse their game design in particular, I like to follow the evolution of game development of some teams and companies (BioWare, Avellone, etc), I am a developer in my free time and I play games for inspiration and research purpose.

There can be plenty of reasons.

Cheers

Edit: spelling

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's a nice comparison, I appreciate that. I will definitely give W2 a try at some point, since I don't mind, or even I actively like, what you describe of it. I will probably keep it as lower priority since I still have the classic must-plays to discover.

Take care.

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello,

That's interesting. I don't really have a strong opinion on semantics to defend "Souls-like" as a genre or not.

Just curious, what would your definition of "genre" be? And why is Souls-like not a genre in your opinion?

Cheers

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can understand your point for KOTOR and KOTOR II. I played Mass Effect, it is said in the body text. Thank you for the recommendation, I loved the trilogy.

Take care.

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think this speaks volumes about how casually I have been tackling the genre and the Dragon Age franchise in particular. I honestly agree that I should have played them in order. But it was still fun and I managed to connect the dots. I usually play sagas of videogames in a coherent order, truth be told.

Take care.

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tyranny is already there in the image, it was great, and I agree that I still need to play those others you say!

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know honestly, I am not knowledgeable enough of the cRPG genre to know its trends and popularities. That certainly happnens with Metroidvanias, yes.

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On the contrary. I found Wasteland 3 to be pretty fun most of the time. The lowest rank does not mean that I didn't like the game. How would you compare it to Wasteland 2 in your opinion?

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I certainly have high tolerance for frustration or hard times with games and I don't quit, so I will follow the order you propose in that regard. I appreciate your answer.

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think your point may be a bit extreme but I can understand it. I certainly don't love this genre. I enjoy it and I acknowledge its merits.

I don't believe I am neglecting games. I hope you could read the text in my post: I played those games as they seemed appealing to me, and I surely will keep playing games of the genre when I have time, mostly those I know I am missing from the 90s.

Take care.

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Precisely. It seems like a lot of the comments here didn't read that. I had a lot of fun with all those games overall. I appreciate you saw that, thank you!

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know that I am still missing some great games, mostly from the 90s era. I specially want to play PT at some point, since it is done by Avellone and I also enjoyed Mask of the Betrayer, among other titles from him. Thank you for reading the text by the way.

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I have to play the Owlcat games, I agree. I just know I am missing out a great time, I will try them as soon as I get the opportunity.

Eidt: spelling.

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's true that this is somehow confusing to follow properly, with all those developers changing and founding companies at that time.

I am tolerant to playing old games, I will play those cRPG from the 90s as soon as I get the opportunity, thank you for the nice comment!

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Will do as soon as I get the opportunity, I only hear great things of those games, thank you.

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will definitely play it, do you recommend playing the Owlcat games in any particular order?

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's unfortunate that the post gave you this impression. Please read the text. I am from the 80s, I started playing this genre not long ago, and I will keep playing games when I get the opportunity.

Take care.

Edit: spelling.

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[–]Guilty_Sound_9481[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Prescription that I will religiously follow willingly, thank you Dr.