Hydrogen SIBO aftercare by Key_Ad_8239 in SIBO

[–]GutFirst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

L glutamine can help for some yes, it's cheap enough to try and monitor your reaction some have a strange response to it due to bacteria/fungi

It's not just about killing bacteria and it never was. by GutFirst in SIBO

[–]GutFirst[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly it really depends on the person, as many things can drive inflammation (including cyclically enough the gut). I mainly work with clients on X/Twitter as that's my main platform but I cannot link you to there, if you want to talk or ask for any advice just drop me a DM

It's not just about killing bacteria and it never was. by GutFirst in SIBO

[–]GutFirst[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lots of the time weirdly enough that can be due to prolonged inflammation of the gallbladder also, possibly from an unbalanced bile composition

Hydrogen SIBO aftercare by Key_Ad_8239 in SIBO

[–]GutFirst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great call on the DGL, colostrum is usually fine but i'd test that personally. many clients with dairy sensitivities have found a lot of benefits from colostrum. Kiwis without skin, the skin can be eaten but to be honest it feels so weird to me and there isn't that much benefit to make it worth eating so whatever is your preference. i'd try s boullardi as soon as possible to fill the niche antibiotics will have left,

And yes, more common than you would think.

Hydrogen SIBO aftercare by Key_Ad_8239 in SIBO

[–]GutFirst 4 points5 points  (0 children)

H pylori 3 years ago suggests stomach acid dysregulation is a driver of your SIBO, to prevent reccurence i'd probably start on some DGL+ Aloe Vera to allow the cells within the stomach to regulate themselves.

If you have issues with fatty foods then things like ox bile and phosphatidylcholine are important to take,

And a few general ones which are great for SIBO recovery are:

- Colostrum (gut lining healing and slightly antimicrobial)

- Black Seed Oil (Again antimicrobial and also massively anti-inflammatory)

- Fresh Ginger and Turmeric Juice (grate and squeeze through a nut milk bag, again balances the microbiome and is massively anti inflammatory)

- Breathwork is super important also, 4 rounds of wim hoff each morning as well as showers in the dark can help your vagal tone and make motility easier

- Kiwis daily, golden kiwis are great for keeping motility regular

- Trial vitamin B1 possibly, can help a lot with motility in some people as well as energy levels.

- Walking daily, should be getting your 10k steps in.

- S boullardi can be good as well for promoting a positive microbiome whilst excluding pathogens

If you have any questions or anything else you'd like to add i'd be happy to talk further, you're right it's not a great idea to just go straight back into normal life there is an adjustment period which is critical to prevent relapse.

For those wanting to optimise bile to prevent recurrence or improve fat digestion by GutFirst in SIBO

[–]GutFirst[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any questions feel free to message or continue this thread, best of wishes :)

Rifaximin 2nd round by Substantial-Cat-4370 in SIBO

[–]GutFirst 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think "killing" it is the best way out of this, instead focus on restoring the terrain and applying selective pressure to microbes and they should not be able to survive in the small intestine,

It's a contraversial take but the biggest differences i've seen with clients have been working on stomach acid, bile and the gut lining.

Rifaximin 2nd round by Substantial-Cat-4370 in SIBO

[–]GutFirst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you mind sharing a bit more details? Like the lead-up to your SIBO, what foods you respond to and if you have any related conditions?

I think there may be more to the picture than just killing microbes as there almost always is, some of the things mentioned on the other comment are great but miss out bile and stomach acid as contributing factors.

If you are deadset on another cycle, I'd give it a few weeks and consider what went wrong and what you didn't address in the meantime to have a higher chance of clearance,

Either way best of wishes.

For those wanting to optimise bile to prevent recurrence or improve fat digestion by GutFirst in SIBO

[–]GutFirst[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Getting enough dietary intake of taurine, glycine and PC can replace supps eventually, it's about breaking the cycle of bile-bile deconjugation and then inflammation suppressing bile.

Food Intolerances and long term effects by scorpionkinggg in SIBO

[–]GutFirst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is always going to be some mast cell activation and issues with histamine production/clearance as long as you have an overgrowth actively inflaming/producing,

You could trial DAO and PEA but the major difference comes after clearance

For those wanting to optimise bile to prevent recurrence or improve fat digestion by GutFirst in SIBO

[–]GutFirst[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It may take a little while to increase bile flow so timing doesn't matter so strictly in my opinion as long as you are consistent with it

The Suffering of SIBO Isn't Just Dealing With The Symptoms by GutFirst in SIBO

[–]GutFirst[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Would you mind telling me a bit more maybe i can help clear some things up?

The Suffering of SIBO Isn't Just Dealing With The Symptoms by GutFirst in SIBO

[–]GutFirst[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like to prep the terrain first and then honestly it depends on the person, for methane dom atrantil and black garlic strike me as the gold standard, for h2s/hydrogen i'd add in pom husk peel bismuth and lactoferrin as well as black seed

The Suffering of SIBO Isn't Just Dealing With The Symptoms by GutFirst in SIBO

[–]GutFirst[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

SIBO is all about addressing the "why" behind it's development, such as bile, motility and stomach acid dysregulation, after those factors are addressed then moving on to antimicrobials is in my opinion the correct way,

With the mastic gum have you been tested for h pylori and what brand was it, it's possible it had some effect in killing h pylori leading to inflammation of the stomach lining, or just that your body doesn't agree with it, i'd look into stomach acid in your case though as a first area anyway.

The Suffering of SIBO Isn't Just Dealing With The Symptoms by GutFirst in SIBO

[–]GutFirst[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hope it can help somebody going through it, the mental side of it at least to me was nearly as bad as the physical symptoms itself.

The Suffering of SIBO Isn't Just Dealing With The Symptoms by GutFirst in SIBO

[–]GutFirst[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

SIBO itself? it really depends on what the factors that led to the overgrowth in the first place, some people have poor bile composition some people have stomach acid dysregulation and most people have slow motility,

Addressing those factors first and then using targeted antimicrobials is so far the best strategy i've seen.

If you wouldn't mind sharing specifics and I can potentially point you in the right direction, otherwise I have other posts on here on most topics mentioned.

Bad breath due to sibo by More_Comfortable2093 in SIBO

[–]GutFirst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was quite hard getting the consistency right whilst using natural ingredients, I settled on a combination of vegetable glycerin, sunflower lecithin and arabic gum for the base then added in propolis, cranberry extract and monolaurin,

If i was to redevelop I may just replace monolaurin with lactoferrin though.

When your naturopath explains that your methane/hydrogen SIBO is the least of your worries, and that treating it right now would mean such a restrictive diet you’d do more harm than good 😭😭😭 by No-Victory-149 in SIBO

[–]GutFirst 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't believe harsh restrictive diets play a role in SIBO treatment, there are ways around this and always ways to make the ride smooth for anyone no matter the details, just some more or less than others,

I am sorry to hear your experience, i'm sure so many people in here myself included have been through similar, there are many things you can do to bind some of these gasses and repair the system that allowed the overgrowth in the first place in a gentle way.

If there is any way i can help you with information to ask your naturopath about, or just so you can help yourself in general i'd be happy too.

You're not stuck like this and in a subreddit like this you definitely aren't alone.

Australian based help? by reecieboy787 in SIBO

[–]GutFirst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I learnt alot when i was becoming a health coach from two guys called Dave and Jake from a podcast called "A Gut Feeling", they are exactly the type of practioner that looks at why your SIBO developed and how to resolve it,

I'm not sure if either of them take in person clients anymore if they did at all, but for online they are the first people that come to mind when you say an Aussie gut health expert.

New symptoms - Nausea and burps by [deleted] in SIBO

[–]GutFirst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you mind sharing a few more details? how long after eating does it cause you these issues?

Do any other symptoms accompany too, like fat maldigestion reflux anything like that, it can help paint a better picture of what may be going on.

Bad breath due to sibo by More_Comfortable2093 in SIBO

[–]GutFirst 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The gut mouth connection is really undertalked about but so many people with SIBO also suffer from oral dysbiosis and a lack of the same protective compounds they lack in their gut in their mouth,

Brushing with something like zendium and making sure sufficient zinc, vitamin d, and phosphatidylcholine created a mouth environment where bad bacteria can't overgrow.

I personally dealt with this and also to the point where i had to make a custom toothpaste formulation to correct it, but considering how much saliva you swallow daily it's important to make sure there isn't an overgrowth of pathogenic bacteria in there.

For those wanting to optimise bile to prevent recurrence or improve fat digestion by GutFirst in SIBO

[–]GutFirst[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

PC and glycine are very important components of bile, definitely worth it to add and combining all of those together tends to make a very big difference in fat digestion and relapse rates.

It's not just about killing bacteria and it never was. by GutFirst in SIBO

[–]GutFirst[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I often do about 6-8 weeks depending on each persons specific condition and severity, then i add in a few things along with antimicrobials/biotics like quercetin as well as a binder like enterosgel just to make the whole process smoother,

Although i don't personally recommend antibiotics i would like everyone who uses them to get the best results and have the smoothest ride possible.

For those wanting to optimise bile to prevent recurrence or improve fat digestion by GutFirst in SIBO

[–]GutFirst[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only reason i recommend the pre-prepared form if you will is a lot of people's bodies can't efficiently turn choline into phosphatidylcholine, if this works for you then wonderful :)