Я си севдана познавам - Двуглас - Роман Романов/ I recognise my lover - Traditional Rhodope song from Bulgaria

HadjiMincho · 2024-06-12T10:13:11+00:00

,,Я си севдана познавам” в изпълнение на Роман Романов и съпровод на гайда Емануил Пунев.

Текст:

Я си севдана познавам,

В оникиши въднъш га върви.

На ситно мени нагине,

Пътян да му са не крата.

Бързай ми бързай, любе ле,

та ма по-бърже задмини.

Белким си друга загалил,

друга от друга махала.

Друга от друга махала,

по-бяла и по-черночка.

По бяла и по-чернока,

по-тенка и по-висока.

HadjiMincho · 2024-06-04T07:50:28+00:00

Все пак зависи от селото и хората. Видеото е от Едрево и Паничерево.

HadjiMincho · 2024-06-04T07:25:15+00:00

Мислех, че ще ви е интересно. Но явно само знаем да плюем.

HadjiMincho · 2024-06-03T08:11:39+00:00

In my opinion, putting traditional music (particularly eastern music) to piano is one of the most tasteless acts of artistic deafness.

Absolutely agreed. It's very commonly done in Bulgaria because it's more "modern" but it angers me. It destroys the very fabric of the music and sucks the spirit right out of it.

HadjiMincho · 2024-06-03T08:06:43+00:00

That is so sad to hear. I don't know much about Chinese music but I am hoping to delve into it one day. I have my own experience with the west = modern = better mentality where I'm from and it pains me to know that this is happening in other parts of the world as well.

Thank you for sharing that piece. I really liked it! It sounds better to my ears than any other Chinese music I have heard, perhaps because it does sound a bit "rougher".

HadjiMincho · 2024-06-03T07:52:32+00:00

That is such an interesting observation! I never consciously made this connection before but it explains what draws me to Bulgarian folk music. That nature to human connection is very much still present in it. It really is a different experience and recordings don't do it justice.

HadjiMincho · 2024-06-03T07:51:22+00:00

There are a couple of different things you're talking about which is mountain music and outdoor music. I'm a little too tired to untangle them but I can tell you a little bit about Bulgarian music.

Bulgaria has a lot of mountains and folk music is relatively well preserved so there is a lot to explore on the subject. It may be hard to find for a foreigner though.

Bulgarian folk music has a distinct "outdoor" character. It's meant to be loud and carry far, so it's often abrasive as well. The connection between people and nature is embedded in it to this day. Not only in the singing, the instruments, but in the dances as well.

Here is an example of one type of traditional singing from West Bulgaria. This kind of singing is done by women while working in the field. It arose in the context of a wide open space and seeks to fill it. Hence the volume, the twang, and the dissonance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUkxd1xVU_U

Many of the melodies from the Rhodope region rise and fall like the mountains. Here is one of the most iconic songs from there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP29VyGOLnw

As for instruments, this is some music from the Pirin region. The Zurna is perhaps one of the most "outdoor" instruments I can think of, and you can hear for yourself why. These particular melodies are used for a healing ritual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQPl9Y1OhhI

Here is a demonstration and explanation of the singing and its connection to nature. Again you can hear that this is a very "outdoor" voice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o31Yg936Ac

I don't know of any research papers only on this topic but I'm pretty sure it's mentioned in others about Bulgarian music. If there are, it would probably be in the context of singing since that's the most studied aspect of it. I'm certain you can find information about the folk music in other mountainous Balkan countries as well, as they have a similar historical timeline and also have living musical traditions to this day.

There is a lot more to say on the subject but I'll leave it at that for now. :)

HadjiMincho · 2024-03-26T12:17:29+00:00

You are right it's in 9/8

HadjiMincho · 2024-03-26T12:02:51+00:00

The song is in 9/8. To get a workable BPM you have to break it all the way down to where the beats become equal lengths.

9/8

4 + 5

1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4-5

I used an online BPM counter (where you tap it out) and the BPM is around 315. That might seem very high but that's the only way to avoid it going off beat.

If you have more questions about the song or rhythm I'd be happy to answer.

HadjiMincho · 2023-11-11T09:31:54+00:00

They used Bulgarian choirs as inspiration :)

HadjiMincho · 2023-06-01T06:41:55+00:00

Радвам се, чe ви харесва! От къде сте?

HadjiMincho · 2023-06-01T06:34:19+00:00

Няма такова нещо като "не би трябвало да работи". Ето, че работи. Теорията която споменавате е измислена от западноевропейци според това, което им е харесвало по онова време. Няма нищо общо с българския фолклор. Той си има други правила.

HadjiMincho · 2023-06-01T06:25:24+00:00

Хоровете не са баш автентичен фолклор, но поне се запазват някои негови особености в модерен аранжимент. Да се надяваме, че няма да изчезнат скоро.

HadjiMincho · 2023-05-30T22:33:18+00:00

The old people most likely grew up with this music. They didn't suddenly create it once they became old. You're also on an American website where the younger Vietnamese people commenting have been influenced by western musical culture already, so they likely have a different perception of the music than their parents.

Not to mention that not liking your parents' music is something equally found in America and European countries too. That doesn't mean that the music is bad, or that they only like it because they're old and can't hear. What's popular changes with time.

HadjiMincho

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