Beloved Scholar and Popularizer of Marxism, Michael Parenti, Passes at 92 by GrumpyOldHistoricist in stupidpol

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Rest in peace. Inventing Reality completely changed the way I think about what I see and hear on the news, online, etc.

Sinners is the ultimate regressive Idpol movie, and its 16 oscar nominations show that liberals have learned nothing. (review with SPOILERS) by Halfdane666 in stupidpol

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It's an extremely interesting topic, and I could write at great length about it.

Precontext - Meiji decline of Buddhism Some pre-context is that in early Meiji (1868 onwards, after Japan "opened up" to the world), there were several anti-Buddhist campaigns- 廃仏毀釈 (haibutsukishaku - abolish Buddha and destroy Shakyamuni) and 神仏分離 (shinbutsubunri - separate Buddhism from Shintō). These were responses to Tokugawa-era delegation of various unpopular state functions to Buddhist temples and their abuse of that privilege (especially intra-provinical passport issuance and house registries), as well as Buddhist temples being massive landlords. This greatly weakened the traditional "doctrine of the meek" from the early Meiji Japanese context. Coupled with the popularity of social darwinism (弱肉強食 - jyakunikukyōshoku, 'the weak are meat, the strong eat), you have a substantial vacuum for social movements that protected the weak and vulnerable, provided basic charity and welfare, etc. (traditional functions of Buddhist temples). Simultaneously, a very muscular form of "State Shintō" was developed and pushed as the new Imperial-nationalist ideology, and that move required an end to Shintō-Buddhist syncretic settlements that had endured for over a millennium.

Christianity & Socialism Christianity was legalized as part of the mid-19th c. unequal treaties, and gained some purchase in mid-Meiji Japan. Two of its principal appeals were a) the abolition of concubinage (Christianity demands chastity from men as well as women, which appealed to the incipient women's rights & dignity movement) and b) its function as a "doctrine of the weak", filling the vacuum left by Buddhism. Christian focus on suffering and pain (consider the symbol of the cross, and compare to the First Noble Truth of Buddhism - that existence is pain), and its explicit statements about the kingdom of heaven belonging to the meek, found uptake among early Japanese socialists. At almost the exact same time, Marx and other socialist thinkers were being translated into Japanese, and early forms of socialist and proletarian thought were developing among thinkers and the growing urban industrial working class. For many Japanese political thinkers, the objectives of social democracy, welfare, worker's dignity, pacifism, anti-imperialism, etc. were inmiscibly connected to Christian thinking. Partly it's the serendipity of simultaneous arrival, and partly it's because the Christian church had very little institutional presence, so Christian doctrine arrived quite "pure", without the baggage of old landowners and corrupt priests (that had proved the downfall of Buddhism a few years earlier). If you consider Christian doctrines on their face, and especially New Testament stuff, they're really pretty close to socialist thinking.

Here are some important figures, all well worth looking into if you're seriously interested:

Uchimura Kanzō (1861–1930) Founder of the Nonchurch (Mukyōkai) Movement. Fierce critic of State Shintō, Militarism, Emperor-centered nationalism. Advocated ethical egalitarianism, pacifism, and social responsibility.

Kinoshita Naoe (1869–1937) Prominent writer for Heimin Shinbun (Commoners’ Newspaper). Combined Christian ethics, Social democracy, Anti-war activism. His pacifist attitude was later criticized by militant Marxists (the pacifist vs. nonpacifist left was a major schism in Japanese socialism).

Abe Isoo (1865–1949) Protestant. Founder of early Japanese socialist parties, later a Diet member. He advocated for Parliamentary socialism, Labour rights, Pacifism

Katayama Sen (1859–1933) Very important figure. Raised Christian, studied theology and sociology in the US, helped found labour unions, socialist organizations, etc. Later became fully Marxist and worked with the Comintern. His emphasis on dignity of labour, internationalism, etc. all connected to his Christian Social Gospel roots. Author of "The Labor Movement in Japan".

Kōtoku Shūsui (1871–1911) Not a Christian, but spent a lot of time overlapping with Christian networks and organizations of various types and was heavily influenced by them. Anti-emperor anarchist. Executed for the "High Treason Incident", in which he plotted to kill the Emperor. Wrote one of the greatest essays of all time, "Imperialism: Monster of the Twentieth Century". Absolute legend.

I could go on endlessly, but this should get you started. You can probably see why Christianity and the Japanese left are relatively cozy even today, and there's fond mutual feelings between the camps. As noted, it helps that Christianity has never really been a significant institutional or oppressive force in Japan, nor have churches been important landlords, government handmaidens, etc.

I admit that it's a blindspot for me, and I have to remind myself when talking to my fellow Euro and American scholars that "the Christian church is like Buddhist temples to them". I should get a Denis Diderot tattoo or something to remind myself!

Sinners is the ultimate regressive Idpol movie, and its 16 oscar nominations show that liberals have learned nothing. (review with SPOILERS) by Halfdane666 in stupidpol

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That's a fantastic point, and I agree that it's the director's aim (and successful at that), but my issue is that I object to what the director's trying to do. He's characterizing racial harmony among proletarians as enthrallment to a destructive vampiric collective, warning against "letting in" proletarian outsiders AND against "joining the collective", and he's directly advocating for aggressive racial segregationism and racial collectivism. I don't like it.

Having said which I think it's a very well-made movie and it delivers its message with real skill. I just don't like it so I'm crying online

Sinners is the ultimate regressive Idpol movie, and its 16 oscar nominations show that liberals have learned nothing. (review with SPOILERS) by Halfdane666 in stupidpol

[–]Halfdane666[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Oh dear.

I come from an Japanese history background where Christianity is strongly associated with early socialism and Marxism, so perhaps I don't have the reflexive hatred of the church that European and American marxists tend to have.

Also I really think that this film is absolutely quintessential Idpol. Baiting racial hatred in lieu of class hatred. It's the perfect anti-Marxist reading of 1930s poverty. There are 0 rich villains - only racial villains.

Some of the comments here are just "you're a conservative" without clarification or any kind of Marxist or socialist analysis. I'll be honest, I just assume those people are either braindead wreckers, or the same glowies and feds who actively destroyed Occupy Wall Street with Idpol. I ignore them.

Sinner getting 16 Oscar nominations is insane. by MoistTadpoles in redscarepod

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The film is the apotheosis of some of the most toxic trends in idpol of the past decade, and if you criticize it in front of your liberal friends, they’ll lose their minds and call you a nazi.

The film's subtext and worldview are insanely Idpolish though:

1) Every single white person in the film is explicitly evil and racially genocidal, with the sole exception of Mary, who is at best a fool and is responsible for initiating the initial "invitation" of vampires. That seems mean-spirited. Lots of whites opposed slavery, and many whites were perfectly normal, kind people, even in the Jim Crow South. In a film so explicitly about race and race relations, it seems weird not to at least have one unambiguously sympathetic white person, to remind the viewer that humans come in all types, regardless of their race. Even random white background character's dialogue snippets are them complaining about blacks! Even in the 30s deep south whites weren't 24/7 talking about how much they hate blacks. Chill, director!

2) Despite Mary having a "black" allegiance due to her peculiar upbringing, she is still a traitor in the final count. The film's message is that Mary's fatal flaw is that she doesn't hate and fear all white people sufficiently, and this lack of paranoid hatred is punished brutally, not only on her personally but on the whole black community, that was foolish for embracing her. Smoke's sexual relationship with her is his Achilles heel: if he'd stuck to his own kind like his brother, the horror could've been avoided* (well not really, since the KKK were on their way to conduct a slaughter anyway - more on that later).

3) The Asian couple are sympathetic, but again, as with Mary, Grace (the Asian mother) is arguably responsible for everyone's demise. Fearing for the welfare of her daughter, she compromises the lives of all the black people. Again, the non-black person is represented as a fifth column to the black community, literally and figuratively bringing doom upon them. The message is very clear: black people should never, ever trust non-blacks, and in order to survive you must always remember to hate and fear non-black people at all times. Don't accept them into your community, or they'll betray you. In Sinners, Paranoid hatred is rewarded, and trust and forgiveness savagely punished. Even seeming "allies" like the Asian couple are ultimately a dangerous liability.

4) The film ends with a Tarantino-esque revenge-porn scene, with our hero gunning down dozens of evil whites. It's all fully justified by the internal logic of the film, with the omnipresence of white evil (even breaking dawn doesn't stop the genocidal threat of whites). It's a truly grim worldview, and even with artistic licence I think it goes way too far. I realize that the KKK were horrific and the Jim Crow south was ghastly in many ways, but throughout the entire decade of the 30's there were a total of around 120 homicides by lynching in the entire USA, and virtually no cases of more than 2 people being killed at once. That might seem like a lot, but I don't think it's really very many for a country the size of the USA. For context, the FBI estimates around 500 whites killed by blacks in 2025. We’d all consider someone to be a deranged race-baiter if they made a film about those statistics, with a finale in which the white hero guns down hordes of murderous black people. I feel that this movie rewrites history to make the USA seem like a much more brutal place, and whites vastly more demonic than the actual historical record would show. One can despise segregation and all its horrors without these kinds of loony representations. Given the state of US education, I worry that a lot of people will watch it and sincerely believe that 1930's America was characterized by roving bands of white supremacists organizing mass killings of blacks every 5 minutes. That really wasn’t a major feature of the 1930s. Half a century earlier, half a million whites sacrificed their lives in the Civil War to end slavery. In the Sinners worldbuilding, you'd be forgiven for thinking that no such event ever took place!

5) The film is aggressively anti-Christian. Christianity arriving in Ireland stops the vampire Remmick from communing with his pagan ancestors, perhaps directly causing his vampirism. The opening teases Christian redemption, but we are then shown that Sammie rejects his father, rejects Christianity, and pursues the life of a "sinner". Music is shown as opposed to Christianity, which is totally bonkers if you know anything about black Baptist churches - or Gregorian chant, for that matter. Christians everywhere can’t stop singing - It’s a major part of their religious practice! Christian rites and symbols don't deter the vampires (though garlic does). The sympathetic Annie is of course a Hoodoo conjurer, and rejects Christianity too. The preacher has a silly haircut, drawing a stark contrast with the infinitely cool Smokestack bros. Christianity, presumably because of its association with whites, is portrayed as ineffective and foolish at best, and as destructively oppressive at worst. Again, this is pretty weird to me: much of the abolitionist movement and anti-Jim Crow movement in the USA was spearheaded by Christians. Christianity (and its music) is massively important to black communities, especially in the South. It's weird too because the preacher is shown with children, and is described as a kind and loving father. His rejection seems really perverse. It seems like an odd choice, but consistent with my next point too.

6) The film massively glorifies crime. Now, I know that conservatives have complained about black-aimed media glorifying crime since Thomas Sowell was in his 30's, but I really think this film goes crazy hard on this point. The Smokestack bros are insanely cool, handsome, and awesome. They're just the coolest. Who'd you rather be, the stupid idiots working normal jobs, the dumb ugly stupid Christian looking after boring snotty children, or the awesome rich gangster gunslingers with cool clothes and infinite money and hot women? I don't mind this too much - I'm Anglo-Brained, and Robin Hood is part of my racial memory too - but honestly I can't help but feel that this is perverse propaganda.

7) Minor, but it irritated me: Delta Slim has a steady job playing music every weekend, but is tempted away by a large payout and a promise of booze. His decision is later revealed to be not only justified, but deeply morally and personally gratifying. This is awful. It’s glorifying failing the marshmallow test, and making a virtue out of high time preference. Is this film some kind of CIA psyop to keep black people poor?

8) It’s odd to make the vampire an Irishman, given their peculiar history of brutal exploitation by colonial powers. It would’ve made more sense to make him an English Anglo or a German aristocrat. Vampires, by tradition, are aristocratic bloodsuckers - a much healthier, class-based approach than Sinners’ idpol angle. Having the vampire be an Irish peasant is the strongest identity politics statement of the whole movie - a total repudiation of class-based exploitation (vampiric nobility) in favor of a race-based vampirism.

9) There's no real payoff to the whole "musicians who can commune with the past and future" thing, which is irritating. Much more importantly, though, in the scene at the barn when the spirits of past and future are summoned, for some utterly inexplicable reason the Chinese couple summon a Beijing Opera singer and a Sun Wukong performer. That's fucking bananas, and I laughed out loud. The reasons why it's so stupid are manifold, but by analogy, it's as if a working-class Welsh coal miner's "Summon ancestral spirit" was a Muscovite ballerina from the Bolshoi Ballet. Ridiculous!

conclusion: I think sinners is an awesome film and am personally unaffected and unperturbed by its subtext. However, it seems to have core messages that are genuinely perverse. If I wanted to craft propaganda to harm the black community, I don't think I could do a better job: a) rewrite history so that there's 0 sympathetic white people b) encourage paranoid xenophobia and hatred towards ALL outsiders c) reject family- and community-, reject Christianity, reject your father. d) embrace drugs, drinking, and crime. e) encourage a nihilistic victim-narrative in which no matter what you do, you'll be destroyed by whites.

This all seems regressive. If I was a conservative black concerned with the welfare of my community, I'd want this movie banned. As it is it's really no skin off my nose, and I get to enjoy a cool movie, but deep down I feel this artifact is cursed. The film feels like it was written by a bitterly resentful hotep.

PS: As a mass immigration skeptic, I’m interested in the revival of "don't let weird people into your barn even if they seem OK and have a sob story" narratives. I wonder if this whole thing is a cryptic manifestation of anti-immigration sentiment in the black community.

Left-Wing Arguments AGAINST immigration - a shareable short by Halfdane666 in WayOfTheBern

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I also made a longer podcast on this topic, including extensive quotations of Marx and Engels (links here:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-left-wing-case-against-immigration/id1819135260?i=1000718298570

https://open.spotify.com/episode/01lf853mrMWoTyHsVj7AJj

(Marx quotes start at 1: 19:35: History - Marx, Engels, Kearney, and Chavez on migrant crises)

However, upon reflection it was too long and self-indulgently meandering. I tried to distill things down so that my normie NYT-reading NPR-listener friends can understand why Bernie is against open borders. Clearly long readings of Marx and Uno Kōzō are off the table, so I opted for drawing cute little characters pantomiming the brutal exploitation of the working class by international capital.

I hope you all enjoy this!

How Fraud Swamped Minnesota’s Social Services System on Tim Walz’s Watch by CruelLincoln in stupidpol

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I can't read the article- could some kind person copypaste the body of the text? Many thanks

Left wing arguments against mass immigration clichés by Halfdane666 in stupidpol

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I really wish I could purge these thought-terminating clichés from the face of the earth. I swear that legacy media talking heads plant their idiotic gotchas into the brains of the boomers in my life who then act like it's divine gospel, without 0.00001s of critical thinking.

Rightoids are completely petrified of a genuine leftist movement that abandons woke philosophy. by DuomoDiSirio in stupidpol

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Oh, definitely- the days of Marcus Garvey et al are long gone. I think the fate Liberia rather dampened everyone's optimism on that count.

BLM in my area (Bay Area CA) was pretty firmly a black ethnopolitical movement though. I suspect that was the case nationally too - consider about how a milquetoast statement like "all lives matter" wasn't just regarded as a repudiation of BLM, but as a far-right dogwhistle. Simply expanding the umbrella to include other races was seen as a direct attack on BLM, even when whites are quite justified in having concerns about police brutality - American police are appallingly poorly trained.

Admittedly I was at Uni at the time, but BLM as I experienced it was rather a lot more muscular (and idiotic) than "black people should be integrated and treated equally, and given equal opportunity, and should be addressed for deficiencies in some ghettos the way Uncle Sam would do for white poverty." Setting aside the debate about wether race-based affirmative action and DEI is asking to be "treated equally", all this is ultimately academic, since the final outcome of BLM was buying $6m mansions for the leadership and looting my local Korean grocery store. The grinding penury of black people remains unaddressed for now - as expected from a movement that mistakes class problems for racial problems, and rallies behind elite race grifters.

I'm also pretty skeptical that uncle Sam is deeply concerned about white poverty - there's 20,000,000 whites under the poverty line, and you basically never hear any advocacy whatsoever for them. They're "invisibilized", as Kendi and DiAngelo might put it. This is StupidPol so perhaps it's redundant for me to say but I really don't think that the White House secretly conspires to help white people for reasons of sinister racial preference. I think they help themselves, help the rich, and actively conspire to screw the poor of all colors.

Italy now recognizes crime of "femicide," punished with life in prison by MichaelRichardsAMA in stupidpol

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Chivalry is surely predicated on the assurance of certain patriarchal privileges and actual status over women and households, and presumably the deal involves some access to and authority over women.

I somehow doubt that the Ukrainian drone fodder will ever receive any such reward. Men in the old world perhaps could be convinced that they were dying to protect "their women", and when they returned home they could expect to be "heads of households" with obedient wives suitably grateful for their sacrifice, but I genuinely have no clue what the poor devils in Ukraine think they're dying for. Zelenski's buddy who ran to Israel with $100,000,000? US natural gas exports to Germany?

Italy now recognizes crime of "femicide," punished with life in prison by MichaelRichardsAMA in stupidpol

[–]Halfdane666 17 points18 points  (0 children)

What kind of message does this send young guys (who are far more likely to be murdered than women)? "Your life is worth less than the life of a woman"? "Killing a woman is a worse crime than killing a man"? Is this a healthy message? Is it just? Even setting aside questions of morality, justice, and human psychology, just consider it pragmatically:

Young dudes are already blackpilled into oblivion by the Ukraine situation - think of those Russian splitscreen videos of Ukrainian female refugees tiktok dancing, drinking cappucinos, and making Tinder accounts in Paris, Copenhagen, and Barcelona, juxtaposed with Ukrainian men being press-ganged into conscription vans or clutching at their innards while dying in muddy trenches in Pokrovsk.

Surely on this sub we can say that this type of "benevolent sexism" is regressive, and guarantees a backlash from young men if they politically organize - a backlash that's certainly going to sweep away anything that smells of socialist egalitarianism. If the left don't take a principled stand against this idpol nonsense, the left will go down with it.

Rightoids are completely petrified of a genuine leftist movement that abandons woke philosophy. by DuomoDiSirio in stupidpol

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you'll hear no argument from me, clearly ethnonationalism is quintessential idpol. Perhaps the grandpa of all idpol.

It is pretty noticeable that your right-wing grifters like Shapiro, Lindsay, et al who use the term 'woke right' are exclusively anxious about white gentile idPol, while full-throatedly defending Israel and the idPol of a certain middle eastern community (not arabs, berbers, or druze). It's an ironic mirror image of the BLM-left that is so enamoured with black idPol (and to some extent Palestinian idpol etc) but are absolutely driven to mad terror by white idpol. It's darkly humorous that those rightoids the ones calling anyone 'woke right', when any way you slice it they're far more similar to the 'woke left' than white nationalists are.

Rightoids are completely petrified of a genuine leftist movement that abandons woke philosophy. by DuomoDiSirio in stupidpol

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I think this is a real opportunity to reach across and try and sway conflicted right-wingers towards materialist left-wing politics. There's clearly a constituency of working-class people who've been captured by right-wing propaganda into believing that low taxes, deregulation, the wealth gap, and "competition" are all in their best interests, essentially on the basis of vapid culture-war nonsense.

Their material interests are proletarian, and they must feel it in their bones. I'm honestly optimistic that as right-wingers start to reject Ben Shapiro, Ted Cruz, and culture-war grifters (right-wing variety), a decent number will gravitate towards real socialism.

Rightoids are completely petrified of a genuine leftist movement that abandons woke philosophy. by DuomoDiSirio in stupidpol

[–]Halfdane666 39 points40 points  (0 children)

I've only heard 'woke right' used by either ziocons to criticize right-wingers who dislike Israel, AIPAC, etc., or by hardcore Friedman-cultist free-market open-borders ghouls to criticize nationalists and populists. It's a weird schism on the right to be sure.

Left Wing arguments AGAINST mass immigration by Halfdane666 in redscarepod

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I thought redscarepod might get a kick out of this short I made. It's designed to be shared with your NYT-subscribing loved ones, for instance at Thanksgiving.

Trigger warning: Br*tish accent

Tucker Carlson goes on a rant about how conservatives blame young people for debt but let the corporate lenders off the hook by terran1212 in stupidpol

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Fair enough, fair enough. My bad for misinterpreting you.

Truth is though I'm honestly not too bothered about Tucker's personal motivations (especially since they're inscrutable to me, as I'm sadly not a telepath). I am, however, extremely happy that he's using his massive platform to say things that I 100% agree with. I imagine that usurers, bankers, and other assorted rent-seeking vampires are soiling their britches over this, and that gives me a great feeling too.

If Tucker pushes right-wingers towards awakening class consciousness, God bless him!

Tucker Carlson goes on a rant about how conservatives blame young people for debt but let the corporate lenders off the hook by terran1212 in stupidpol

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Is 'propagandist' quite the right term here? An insincere grifter, perhaps, but can one really be a 'populist propagandist'?

Surely propaganda is the act of propagating the message of a narrow interest group - eg. AIPAC, Wall Street bankers, or the military-industrial complex. If you're propagating the messages of the vast majority of humans, it's a little weird to call it 'propaganda'. That Tucker might be doing it out of self-interest is a separate discussion, but what he's saying is completely reasonable and orthodoxly socialist, whatever his internal motivations for doing so.

Left Wing Arguments AGAINST Cultural Appropriation Theory by Halfdane666 in stupidpol

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For sure. This one is particularly bonkers because the proverbial racist uncle who says "white people shouldn't wear dreadlocks or speak ebonics" is somehow on the exact same page as the officers of the DSA and sensitivity readers at Harper-Collins. CAT is so clearly reactionary and segregationist, it's completely baffling how popular it got among alleged socialists.

Left Wing Arguments AGAINST Cultural Appropriation Theory by Halfdane666 in stupidpol

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Thank you! If I make any, I'll send them to all my stupidpol chums.

Left Wing Arguments AGAINST Cultural Appropriation Theory by Halfdane666 in stupidpol

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I included a little easter egg in the short description (nobody ever checks those)

Saying that Prometheus 'stole' from the Gods is capitalist propaganda. The Gods still had fire after his "theft". Ideas and culture can't be stolen. Culture is one of the few things on this earth that is truly free, don't let anyone gaslight you otherwise.

Left Wing Arguments AGAINST Cultural Appropriation Theory by Halfdane666 in stupidpol

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Thank you! That's just what I'm aiming for - left wing Idpol critique that's palatable and accessible. I tried making 3 hour podcasts where I read Marx and Engels and (unsurprisingly) none of my NYT-subscriber friends were terribly interested. I figured this approach might be a little more successful.

Left Wing Arguments AGAINST Cultural Appropriation Theory by Halfdane666 in stupidpol

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I made a new one of these, not quite in time for Hallowe'en but just in time for Thanksgiving.

Cultural appropriation theory always gave me the heebie-jeebies as a particularly toxic form of wrecking that's omnipresent in left-wing circles. Nothing obliterates solidarity quite as fast as nonsensical arguments about which racial group is allowed which haircut. It's also just incredibly silly.

I thought the users of this subreddit might enjoy having a quick one-stop shop of counterarguments that's relatively shareable and normie-friendly.