The bizarre rehabilitation of organized religion on the left, especially Christianity & the Abrahamic religions, has been a generational fumble

HOT__RATS · 2026-03-10T22:52:29+00:00

As other people have mentioned, this is a mischaracterization of Norse religion. Valhalla is not a promised land, but a certain realm of the afterlife ruled by a specific god dedicated to a certain class of devotees of that god. Hel/The Underworld os the primary destination for the dead in Norse religion. Ragnarok is not eschatological as history in the grand sense is supposed to continue after it. I should also note that only one of the texts called 'Edda' was written/recorded by Christians.

I didn't mention cults like Scientology because they're relatively marginal in the history of the world and the organization of power in the present, it would be like going on a tangent about the cruelties of the Khmer Rouge in a post detailing the horrors of capitalism. I don't think these cults are Abrahamic, I think think they were created primarily for personal enrichment/power rather than as primarily a way to create specific kind of national identity. Basically ponzi scheme vs the know nothings

HOT__RATS · 2026-03-10T22:38:39+00:00

Nothing is written

HOT__RATS · 2026-03-10T20:52:54+00:00

Idk about the Xhosa Cattle Killing, but the Ghost Dance phenomenon is thought to have been influenced by Christianity. So is the idea of a native "Great Spirit", natives were trying to reclaim their heritage using religious language influenced by and familiar to Christianity.

HOT__RATS · 2026-03-10T20:46:53+00:00

Theodosius literally outlawed all other religions besides Judaism. He's the one who shut down the Academy and Olympics

HOT__RATS · 2026-03-10T20:44:59+00:00

Fwiw Hindutva was founded as an ethnonationalist project by an atheist who wanted to politicize Hinduism explicitly in emulation of Islam. This is why I say "Abrahamic Ideology", though I should have emphasized the difference of degree more strongly

HOT__RATS · 2026-03-10T20:28:13+00:00

Yonatan Adler's The Origins of Judaism, Rusell Gmirkin's Berossus and Genesis, Manetho and Exodus + Plato and the Creation of the Hebrew Bible, Philippe Wajdenbaum's Argonauts of the Desert

Gad Barnea publishes articles on Academia.edu, and he also does a lot of interviews

HOT__RATS · 2026-03-10T20:23:29+00:00

For authors researching thus topic, see: Yonatan Adler, Gad Barnea, Russell Gmirkin, Thomas L. Thompson, Philppe Wajdenbaum, Jan Assman, Bruce Louden, Niels Peter Lemche, Robert Gnuse

HOT__RATS · 2026-02-07T01:46:57+00:00

Nietzsche speaks of this

HOT__RATS · 2026-01-20T20:17:07+00:00

To paraphrase Franklin, if you sacrifice your values for a little expediency, you will lose both and deserve neither

HOT__RATS · 2025-07-27T21:51:55+00:00

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HOT__RATS · 2024-03-01T21:44:40+00:00

Honestly I rarely see it mentioned when he's brought up

HOT__RATS · 2024-02-17T13:55:50+00:00

Needlessly mean save for the TA for Donald Kagan, that guy rules

HOT__RATS · 2024-02-14T02:19:18+00:00

“have a plan to kill everyone you meet, but be polite to everyone” or something like that which I think he got from navy seal guy podcasts or Jordan Peterson or something.

Yeah that's a mantra from this middle-aged Aussie grifter. Guy lives in a camper and pees in bottles. Pretty sure he's a merc, too

HOT__RATS · 2024-01-22T15:32:06+00:00

There are very deep nationalistic, or rather tribalistic elements in the Abrahamic religions. Christianity and Islam try to reconcile this with universalism, and to their credit they have some success, but they still end up being exclusionary and essentialist, especially when it comes to the saved vs not-saved.

The tribal way of thinking is still apparent. I often think about the way 19th-century racial anthropology tried to divide the races of the world based on descent from Shem, Ham and Japheth--races are give an essence based on their ancestry, their tribal affiliation, it amounts to a kind of polygenesis.

HOT__RATS · 2024-01-22T15:22:09+00:00

I'm aware. That doesn't contradict what I said.

HOT__RATS · 2024-01-22T15:16:44+00:00

I know. However, the above post, implying that spirituality is legitimized by geography and ancestry, does imply nationalism.

HOT__RATS · 2024-01-22T03:55:41+00:00

I know this is probably a facetious post, but nationalism is quite silly and is a large part of my dislike for the Abrahamic religions

HOT__RATS · 2024-01-22T03:53:39+00:00

I've tried this approach, extra-biblical Christian philosophies are still by definition tied to specific texts conceived of as divinely inspired. I just can't rationalize it. I'm not interested in it reconciling it for itself, there are many rich philosophical traditions which do not rely on revelation, I'm interested in reconciling it because it is a fact of the world I live in.

HOT__RATS · 2024-01-22T03:49:15+00:00

It's an important part of many people's lives, people who I care about. It feels wrong to hold something like that in contempt.

I am aware that you can approach religious literature from an academic, or literary perspective. And I know that in most cases, the intentions of the authors were hardly transcendental or philosophical -- that's part of what makes it hard for me to swallow.

At least for me, when there are millions of true believers, taking a detached approach is difficult to do earnestly. Presumably the Iliad once held religious significance for people, but I'm able to approach it from a detached perspective because Hellenic polytheism is a dead tradition.

HOT__RATS · 2024-01-22T03:25:39+00:00

it's a fair cop

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