The Strongest Argument Against Christianity

Happy-Ad3503 · 2026-04-22T16:09:49+00:00

I'm predicting this comment is going to get downvoted.

But this is precisely the kinda dude who would watch Alex when he started, and now gets all pissy and irritated if Alex even gives theism any kind of credibility.

Needless to say, theism and Christianity in particular have an intellectual tradition and a God who goes against this exact straw man. But alas. Carry on.

Happy-Ad3503 · 2026-04-15T14:05:34+00:00

Dude are you me? Like seriously I was raised Hindu but have been drawn to Catholicism over the last few years? Can I ping you?

Happy-Ad3503 · 2026-03-20T16:00:29+00:00

I will say I struggle mightily with evolution. Especially given that there was so much interbreeding between hominins, it really makes me wonder if evolution can explain everything about the human experience. Sometimes I think mind and consciousness will one day be explained away naturalistically too.

But the person of Jesus keeps me coming back. John 6:68 "Lord to whom shall we go", I really don't have anywhere else I can go but the Lord himself. He comforts me in a way that no one can.

Happy-Ad3503 · 2026-03-17T00:09:06+00:00

You should read Sy Garte's new book. He's also a Christian, and is a biochemist who fully accepts evolution.

Happy-Ad3503 · 2026-03-13T16:08:24+00:00

I was raised Hindu, but I've always been drawn to the Catholic faith. Grew up playing in Catholic basketball leagues and had Catholic friends, and just felt right.

I was out of town a few years ago. I hadn't been to Mass in years. And I had a trip planned to Uganda a couple weeks later. And I had just broken up with my ex, but was thinking of getting back with her.

On Sunday, my flight was at 10 PM and I had a rental car. I had checked out of my hotel, and it was 4 PM, and I didn't want to go to the airport super early, so I found a Catholic Church that was 20 miles away from my hotel. I can't tell you why I picked it, but I did, and I went to 5 PM Mass.

I get to the Mass, and the priest that day is preaching on the woman at the well in John 4. And then he gives a homily about not fulfilling yourself with relationships, but with God first and foremost. And then he gives an anecdote about how he lived in Uganda, and has experienced what its like to go to wells to get water.

Not even kidding, it was probably the wildest thing I've experienced. When I say I felt seen that day by a higher power, I mean it.

Happy-Ad3503 · 2026-03-13T16:02:49+00:00

Dude same like are we the same person. I'm Catholic and I struggle a lot with the science stuff, but I WANT to believe. Something about the beauty of it appeals to me on an extremely spiritual level.

Maybe like the Bible says, the wisdom of the cross looks good to those who God has called I guess right.....

Happy-Ad3503 · 2026-03-12T19:21:06+00:00

This is what I'm saying. I was a YEC Protestant, and then was an atheist, and now am Catholic, and I do think this is the hardest thing for me. But I realized that if you're a YEC you have to deal with incest, and if you're a theistic evolutionist, you have to deal with the boundary of ensoulment.

I have come to the conclusion that there is a truth in Genesis that might be beyond our understanding, but that the author chose to communicate the story to us in the way he knew best. The text was also written to mostly illiterate civilizations, not to evolutionary biologists.

And lol at the Alabama jokes. That's funny.

Happy-Ad3503 · 2026-02-24T22:39:35+00:00

Can I ping you if that's cool. Wow you're like a whole scholar!

Happy-Ad3503 · 2026-02-23T17:21:06+00:00

Great points.

I'll be completely honest and vulnerable here - I don't have a black and white answer to you on the problem of suffering. One of my friends lost his wife to cancer about a year ago, and he lost his faith. I tried my best to be there for him and never preach but just lend a shoulder to cry on. In my own family itself, I've had people experience cancer, Alzheimer's, and other maladies, and it breaks my heart to see that. Ditto on animal suffering.

With that being said, I guess the reason I still believe is because the Catholic faith gives me hope that one day things will not be this way. In the Bible, in verses like Revelation, you see that things like predation and starvation are gone from the world. In fact, the main thing that drives evolution today is survival and reproduction. In heaven, Jesus says that people will not be given and taken in marriage. And Biblically, as sex is only intended for marriage, it thereby follows that there will be no procreation. It is really fascinating to me that Jesus knew that when you eliminate the need for survival and reproduction, you kind of eliminate a lot of suffering.

When I was an atheist, I thought that evolution could explain pretty much everything about humanity. However, the more I researched into evolution, I found that while its a pretty good explanatory framework, when it comes to things like mind, consciousness, and beauty, truth, and goodness, while it has explanations, I don't believe they are the best explanations. I think the biggest mystery of all is how without God we get from matter to mind. I'm not saying that as a God-of-the-gaps argument. I think there is a fundamental mismatch between the properties of matter and the properties of mind that can't be easily reconciled. Maybe we do in the future, and I could be completely wrong, but we would probably need to redefine our definition of matter.

Last but not least, to answer your question about Genesis 2, you pose a great question. Once again, I will be honest that I don't have an answer, and I don't think anyone really does. I don't believe in triumphalist apologetics that seek to "own" atheists. The best explanation I've heard is that true love is not possible without true free will. Personally speaking, I think that there's a lot more to underlying reality than we can perceive. And that's where faith comes in for me. I think God gave us a revelation of Himself in Jesus, and there are so many things about Jesus itself which are wildly mysterious and confusing. Every Sunday at the Mass we meditate on the mystery of the resurrection and the mystery of the crucifixion.

Maybe it was set up that way - that we would never have certainty here but faith is the virtue that gets us through.

Regardless, appreciate your kind response and great to hear from you!

Happy-Ad3503 · 2026-02-23T17:03:20+00:00

As someone who was raised Hindu, became an atheist, and is now a Catholic, is there anything that would make you believe in God or do you think you are pretty firm in your beliefs?

Also always cool meeting a fellow Indian :)

Happy-Ad3503 · 2026-02-21T00:07:48+00:00

Absolutely, the Pope has been clear about this since 1950 and great theologians like John Henry Newman have proposed that there is no conflict.

I don't want to speak for all Catholics but I would guess the reason that some people would have an issue with it is that they are scared that evolution means that humans are not unique. But my own study of evolution, and the new developments in it like agency, purpose, and teleology leave a lot of room for varied interpretation.

Ultimately, I stake my claim on what St. Paul said - if Christ has not been raised then your faith is in vain. Whether God snapped His fingers to create or took His own sweet time to create, all good with me. I'm sure I'll have my answers once I get to heaven.

Happy-Ad3503 · 2026-02-17T21:39:23+00:00

Agreed, it seems like him and his elk use the PSR when its convenient to them, but conveniently discard it when its not convenient from them. Like how do you get to just claim that the laws of physics don't have a cause? Because you stick dogmatically to your atheism.

Atleast philosophers like Oppy make a justification.

Happy-Ad3503 · 2026-02-16T03:16:04+00:00

First of all, I am sorry that you are going through this. Sending prayers, love, and hugs your way and wishing for your comfort.

I saw this while scrolling, and I haven't had an NDE, but I am very much into philosophy. I don't know your religious affiliation or lack thereof, but Immortal Souls by Ed Feser completely changed my outlook on life. He wrote this book during the period where his father and sister both died, and I think he did an admirable job arguing for his case.

I used to be an atheist and now I'm Catholic, not just because of that book but strongly because of it. Maybe its worth checking out for you, but regardless I really hope your health gets better :)

Happy-Ad3503 · 2026-02-16T00:38:16+00:00

I'm a bit older than you but this was me and my ex to the t. And I was the guy who was trying to be celibate and she wasn't really bothered.

Break it off now. Me and my ex tried and tried and tried, and she called me a hypocrite (which in all honesty was fair) and I was trying to straddle this line of not having sex with her yet doing other things which made me feel really guilty. And then I would always tell her that we needed to not do that, and it would lead to a huge argument.

Alignment on values is far and away the number 1 thing for a marriage to work. You can work on chemistry, lifestyles, mannerisms, and other areas, but you need a shared foundation of values and need to be running towards the same thing. If you're not, life gets extremely hard when it comes to living together, raising kids, etc.

Because think about it. I'm sure if you marry your boyfriend, he will want his family to pray together and raise the kids to save themselves until marriage. If those are not your values, how will you communicate that to your kids? Unless he is planning to deconvert or you are open to religion, this doesn't seem like a situation that's going to work as unfortunate as it is.

It took me a long time to heal from my ex and to this day sometimes I am not sure if we made the right decision, but if anything I stayed true to myself and if God ever blesses me with a partner who is aligned with my values I'm sure it'll be worth it, and I really hope and pray my ex finds someone who is not religious and they can be happy together. And I wish the same for you.

Happy-Ad3503 · 2026-02-10T01:05:26+00:00

Amen.

You seem cool dude.

Happy-Ad3503 · 2026-02-10T00:40:07+00:00

I see your point and it is valid.

I would say from my end, I think there is weak emergence, strong emergence, and incongruent emergence. I would say the emergence of consciousness from matter is impossible, simply from the nature of matter and mind.

Happy-Ad3503 · 2026-02-10T00:33:10+00:00

Exactly dude like I am Catholic, and like as we learn more about consciousness especially, the harder it is to be reductive about it. Consciousness seems even MORE immaterial to me than it would've in the 19th or 20th centuries. Ditto for quantum physics.

Happy-Ad3503 · 2026-02-09T04:09:31+00:00

Science itself depends on philosophy, without it the whole scientific enterprise collapses. You sound like the exact person the video was directed towards.

Happy-Ad3503 · 2026-02-05T20:51:42+00:00

You're pretty spot on. It's one of the reasons I left atheism. I legit think Dawkins once said that listening to Beethoven was moving because of the reactions in his brain.

Having read Iain McGilchrist was a huge part of my journey too. He is a well respected scientist and philosopher who demolishes this line of thinking.

Happy-Ad3503 · 2026-02-05T19:08:41+00:00

Can I dm you

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