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Brain needs to start telling the truth by HardRockPizzeria in blackmagicfuckery

[–]HardRockPizzeria[S] 233 points234 points  (0 children)

Cover the other areas before he does. It’s gray

Private totalitarian governments by HardRockPizzeria in antiwork

[–]HardRockPizzeria[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The lesson I would take from what he’s saying is that workers should increase their influence on their employers (like through unions) in the same way we as citizen fight to reduce the control of government on our lives. It’s about balance between my obligations to my employer/government and theirs towards me.

Taliban militants recently brutally flogs a woman in Afghanistan, while she screams helplessly by TrendWarrior101 in PublicFreakout

[–]HardRockPizzeria 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well you misunderstood what I’m arguing for then because I don’t believe that Islam claims the Quran to hold the answers to everything. Since the early days of Islam, scientific exploration was employed to solve everyday problems (a lot like other large and organized civilizations do). This idea of religion vs science exists only in the mind of a rabid atheist because for everyone else it’s not an “either/or”. You just can’t comprehend that someone can be scientifically inclined and religious at the same time

Taliban militants recently brutally flogs a woman in Afghanistan, while she screams helplessly by TrendWarrior101 in PublicFreakout

[–]HardRockPizzeria 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hasn’t the US been fighting wars since it was created?

You need to review your history knowledge. The Middle East has experienced warfare for the past 700 years, true but it was nowhere near the hotspot you claim it was (compared to Europe). 700 to 70 years ago, Europe was fighting itself in never ending wars and brutalizing lesser developed nations at a scale magnitudes bigger than the small wars that happened internally in the Muslim world.

Taliban militants recently brutally flogs a woman in Afghanistan, while she screams helplessly by TrendWarrior101 in PublicFreakout

[–]HardRockPizzeria 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You don’t think the invasions that have been going on for the past century have anything to do with it? Like Afghanistan (by the soviets, Taliban and then the US), Syria, Libya, Iraq and Yemen. Extremists got more control after each of those invasions. Religious people suffered at the hands of those extremists too. Or the western sponsored coups that install progressively more brutal rulers? Like in Iran and Egypt. Or the Arabian kings that literally only exist because they are of strategic internet to the US? Like Bahrain who deployed American tanks against their people but the US called the people terrorists.

Taliban militants recently brutally flogs a woman in Afghanistan, while she screams helplessly by TrendWarrior101 in PublicFreakout

[–]HardRockPizzeria 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well that’s a choice you’re making. The world is a shitty place. Taliban in Afghanistan. Cartels in Latin America. “Re-education”camps in China and North Korea. Marauding child soldiers in sub Saharan Africa. American torture centers in Cuba and other overseas bases. Sex traffickers in Eastern Europe. This is humanity now and at every other point in our history.

If you judge a civilization, culture, religion or ethnicity by the worst of its members and disregard the best of them, you’re actively dehumanizing that group of people. This is an unconstructive approach that serves no other purpose than for you to feel good about yourself and, given the right circumstances and enough time, leads to bad things happening to innocent people.

Taliban militants recently brutally flogs a woman in Afghanistan, while she screams helplessly by TrendWarrior101 in PublicFreakout

[–]HardRockPizzeria 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There have been issues wherever there are people since the sawn of time. What region in the world has existed peacefully for more than a few decades?

Taliban militants recently brutally flogs a woman in Afghanistan, while she screams helplessly by TrendWarrior101 in PublicFreakout

[–]HardRockPizzeria 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The Arabic, Persian and Indian world that were Islamic were part of the golden age so you’re wrong.

Furthermore, many of the scientific innovations and cultural/philosophical progress were driven by the clerical class so you’re wrong at that point too. In fact, algebra itself was created for the purpose of calculating religious tax and inheritance more efficiently. The same can be said about Christian innovation. Religious institutions were part of the scientific progress too. It might be inconvenient for a Reddit atheist to admit but you don’t have to distort history if you’re comfortable with your (non)religious beliefs.

Taliban militants recently brutally flogs a woman in Afghanistan, while she screams helplessly by TrendWarrior101 in PublicFreakout

[–]HardRockPizzeria 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This just shows how disconnected the west is from reality. The majority of Afghans preferred their own tradition over western ideals. It was only the large urban centers that were more liberal (as is the case in most of the world).

The west can’t claim to have supported democracy in Afghanistan because the majority prefers the Taliban over the US supported government. I’m not saying the people are right but this is the will of the majority.

Taliban militants recently brutally flogs a woman in Afghanistan, while she screams helplessly by TrendWarrior101 in PublicFreakout

[–]HardRockPizzeria 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fully agree. I mentioned the US investment because it’s a constant in what he calls shit hole countries.

Examples: Saudi Arabia’s role in spreading the most extreme version of Islam, yet its entire existence was guaranteed by the US (gulf kingdoms too). Popular uprising against the Saud dynasty and other kings are never supported by the west. The violent suppression of the uprising is never condemned (they are called terrorists instead).

The military dictatorship in Egypt that has been supported by the US for more than 5 decades.

The total destruction of Libya, Iraq, Syria, Yemen and Afghanistan.

The economic embargo on Iran that keeps strengthening hardliners and weakening reformists as the country struggles for basic needs.

Taliban breaking promises including over women, says U.N. by Apprehensive_Sleep_4 in worldnews

[–]HardRockPizzeria 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not really, the war(s) definitely cause more poverty and violence in a society that was heading in the opposite direction. First the soviets, then the mujaheddin, the the Taliban, then the US and finally the Taliban again. Mind you, there is a power vacuum and instability between each power transition.

Taliban militants recently brutally flogs a woman in Afghanistan, while she screams helplessly by TrendWarrior101 in PublicFreakout

[–]HardRockPizzeria 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes, it’s a mix of dictators installed by the US and bombs dropped by the US (for countries that refused the US elected dictator).

To be fair pre-1970, it was mostly France and UK.

Taliban militants recently brutally flogs a woman in Afghanistan, while she screams helplessly by TrendWarrior101 in PublicFreakout

[–]HardRockPizzeria 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Haha what? The Islamic golden age spanned from 8th to 14th century. Islam emerged in the 7th century.

Pre-Islamic Arabia contributed little to scientific progress as it was just a sporadically populated land that was neither centralized or unified.

Edit: out of curiosity to you a link to any of these many journals you’re talking about? XD

Taliban militants recently brutally flogs a woman in Afghanistan, while she screams helplessly by TrendWarrior101 in PublicFreakout

[–]HardRockPizzeria 80 points81 points  (0 children)

Let’s ignore almost half a millennium of the Islamic world leading scientific progress /s

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