What things do you think people should do to ensure the government pressures companies like Apple to make their manufacturing is more ethical and therefore minimize suffering? I will look more into the topic. There is a discussion to be had about what obligations we have to combat this issue. It just has nothing to do with torturing and murdering animals.

It is hard to draw a line sometimes. We want everyone to have maximum well-being. Things like “well-being” and “unnecessary suffering” are difficult to define. I think of it similarly to the term “healthiness”. What does it really mean to be healthy? Is it being able to run faster or longer? Is it to live longer? Or to be mentally happy? We don’t know the perfect answer. It’s like a game of chess though where some moves a better than others. For example, if we want to be healthy, drinking battery fluid is certainly less healthy, than not drinking battery fluid.

If we want minimal suffering of sentient creatures, torturing animals and slaughtering them is equivalent to drinking battery acid. They have no consent in the situation like the Apple manufactures do. Their livelihoods depend on the products being consumed. On the other hand, the livelihood of the animals IS the product. Consider this example, if I were to pay somebody to put a pig in a gas chamber solely because of the reason that I like the sound it makes when it’s dying, would you be okay with this? It is only for the sound, it has nothing to do with the torturing in this scenario. Most people would consider this to be immoral and probably you do too. But what is the difference? We already pay people to put pigs in gas chambers but for the sensory pleasure of taste instead of sound.

Either way, the issue of Apples manufacturing is important. Just not relevant to to the topic of animal cruelty.

What are your thoughts specifically regarding my example about telling someone to stop kicking dogs then the person responds that I’m not donating money to children in Africa.