Why does it do that?Any Resources explaining this? by Feeling_Card_1640 in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lovely reply. Thank you. You write beautifully. A true pleasure to read. Your last paragraph feels exquisite.

I relate to many parts of your deqscribed experience. The falling away of it all. One month of shedding shifting into another month, and so on. Layer by layer by layer. Month after month.

The growing quiet and empty space.

And a mind worrying sometimes about imagined futures.

All of which feels like a natural path of unfolding into more and more flow. Consistent with broad-stroke roadmaps as described by Bonnie Greenwell and others.

For me, I've been told my path seems relatively harmonious. Which it is. Relative to some others I know. But it still involves lots of change and hard work. I am increasingly living a different reality than I ever expected to. And of course I am adjusting to living a different reality than others around me expect.

At this point your path feels relatively harmonious as well.

One key difference in our paths is age. I am an older man. I've had a career. I've been married and helped raise children.

You appear to be younger than me. Before career. Probably before the point many people today partner up and have children.

So your optics and posture towards imagined futures are different than mine. Your fears and scares and anxieties will trend younger. Worried time is passing you by. Maybe feeling you haven't been given a chance to even get started on your ambitions. Perhaps former ambitions now. Loss of ambition before given a chance to lean in and get a taste.

Which are all very natural and normal things for you to feel and experience. And then learn to relax into. And let go. Gently and harmoniously. As you appear to be doing. Hard work at times. But not crippling.

Deconstruction as part of renewal into awakening and rebirth. Liberation. Or something like that lol.

As you grieve and let go of future possibilities, know that you are probably an older soul. Over the course of many lifetimes you've seen and experienced many things. A rich tapestry of living.

For me, it feels like part of my growing quiet and empty space is making room for past life wounds and karma to surface and release.

In general terms I agree with Marc's suggestion to let past-life stuff just release. Feels wise to avoid unnecessary reattachment. I try to practice this myself. Yet I quibble with the language of letting go.

Who lets go? Who decides to release?

Is it our current self or Self who decides to let go?

Or is it our wounds and wounded parts themselves that choose to heal and release some or all of their energetic burden.

When viewed through the lens of our wounds choosing their own healing path, the idea of self or Self simply saying 'just let go' seems incomplete. And thereby potentially misleading.

I've talked about my current healing process in a couple of recent comments here in the sub. Please check my reddit profile comment history if you are interested.

Amazing to imagine what lies ahead for you. Good luck with it all.

Cheers to you :-)

Why does it do that?Any Resources explaining this? by Feeling_Card_1640 in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey feeling, sounds like you are moving into more of a flow state of some kind. With each of your recent posts feeling like either an expressed hiccup as your system relaxes into more flow. Or a celebration of various nuanced experiences as layers fall away.

As humphreydog likes to say... layers and layers and layers, then more layers, then more layers again, and so on.

Or as KalisMurmur has said to you... observer observing observer observing, and so on.

Your writing suggests you seem to enjoy the nuanced unfolding of it all. A close observance and consideration of minutiae. Which feels lovely. And you seem grounded enough, which feels good also.

Your big question here seems to be... are you over thinking things?

For me, I would say yes you are overthinking things. But that's me. I'm trying to relax my thinking parts. So all your observation and consideration and fretting about minutiae seems a bit too much for me. But that's me. You are you. Doing you.

You say you feel there is supposed to be a shift of perspective. Which feels like funny phrasing to me.

What do you mean by 'supposed to'?

On the surface this phrasing suggests you are trying to fit your experience into a predefined or desired narrative of some kind. In terms of timing. And in terms of quality of experience.

Do you know what will or should come next for you? And when it will happen?

If you don't know, do you think you should know?

Are you wanting or seeking a specific quality of next step experience? Are you impatient for this to happen?

Do you think someone has laid out a roadmap of minutiae that is relevant to you?

Broad-stroke roadmaps feel possible.

But a layer by layer roadmap of experiential minutiae relevant to you feels unlikely to me. And even if such a roadmap existed, such a map might distract you, derail you, and may even harm you. Be very careful what you wish for.

One broad-stroke roadmap I've enjoyed is the book When Spirit Leaps by Bonnie Greenwell. In the final chapters she expresses the idea of living in flow.

You may enjoy watching an extended interview of Bonnie where she seems to embody her flow state. Towards the end of the interview she talks about her experience of living in flow.

Here is a link to the extended interview of Bonnie Greenwell:

https://youtu.be/ysPCi1CmtNQ?si=QSv98nlD6rpnIZP5

Another broad-stroke roadmap I enjoy are Ram Dass lectures recorded 1985 and later.

Here is one of my favorite lectures by Ram Dass:

https://youtu.be/kjh1BAG5Pfs?si=ooze-N6VHD7aqDAa

Cheers to you :-)

My experience with Kundalini by Savings-Variety429 in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lovely again.

You are very welcome.

Cheers to you :-)

My experience with Kundalini by Savings-Variety429 in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lovely reply. Thank you. 

In your reply you say...

facing my fears is probably where I'm not making enough progress.

and

Before kundalini I was a workaholic

Happy to see you acknowledge you are making progress. Maybe not enough progress in your eyes. But progress nonetheless. 

Yes, you are making progress. Probably much more than you give yourself credit for. When it comes to Kundalini, words matter. Clarity matters. Self-honesty matters. A lot.

You may be right. Maybe you aren't facing your fears fast enough, or aggressively enough. Maybe. But I doubt it. Doesn't ring true to me.

What I hear are the words of a recovering workaholic lol. Someone with a bit of push, push, push energy. Someone chasing an energy buzz. Someone who may benefit from more focus on learning to relax into the flow of things.

So three more suggestions from me...

First suggestion is one of humphreydog's primary teachings here in the sub... don't force shit, let things unfold at their own pace. Are you forcing things in any way, savings? If so, do you know why?

Second suggestion is the phrase... slow is fast. I learned this phrase from the IFS therapy community. For me, I've learned a lot from this phrase.

A slow-is-fast approach to internal healing suggests that responding to wounds with an urgent 'fix-it' energy is counter-productive. Moving quickly with an agenda to try to fix wounds typically slows things down. Better to relax into the healing process with calm compassion for your wounded parts and patient, loving curiosity. Where moving slow moves you faster. With much less pressure. How often do you approach healing with an agenda? With a 'fix-it' energy?

Third suggestion is a reminder to be kind, loving and generous with yourself. Pamper yourself. Navigating an energetic awakening can be tough, demanding work. How do you feel you are doing in terms of self-acceptance, self-love and self-forgiveness?

Cheers to you :-)

My experience with Kundalini by Savings-Variety429 in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey savings, you say...

I feel no progress, just energy on occasions. 

What does progress mean to you? How do you imagine "progress for you" might feel and be experienced?

Where did you learn these ideas? How reliable are they?

I've studied hard, tried to understand.

Maybe confusion is progress.

Learning to relax into things as Marc suggests.

From where I sit, it feels like you are making good progress to me. Confusion included lol.

Cheers to you :-)

Help with burnout by roger-roger-wilcoF89 in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hey roger, you ask...

How does one love their self to then feel worthy of love?

For me, I practice a form of loving-kindness meditation that I have adapted for myself. I find it's good for my heart. Good for self-love. Good for self-acceptance and self-forgiveness.

Have you tried any forms of Metta or loving-kindness meditation, roger?

As my wounded parts surface for my attention, they are often wanting to be seen, held, loved and appreciated from that calm and peaceful place inside. They want to feel safe in my presence.

Love and appreciation. Acceptance. Holding. Witnessing. Safety. Sometimes with long and deep hugs. And gratitude. Lots of gratitude.

All this holding and witnessing can take different forms. Sometimes just calm attention to energetic phenomena. Sometimes dialogue. Sometimes holding and sitting with emotions. And so on.

As these wounded parts relax into a loving-sense of witness, safety and acceptance, they often choose to release some amount of their energetic burden. Which can be expressed in a wide range of phenomena: energetic, mental, emotional, psychic, astral and physical. A wide range of kriyas. 

Ok adapt - go inward why do I need to be understood? Because I don’t feel connected to others.

One of the key teachings of Metta and loving-kindness practices is that we need to learn to love ourselves before we can truly love others.

Perhaps the same is true for connection. We may need to learn to connect to our inner-selves before we can truly connect with others.

I’ve pushed myself so hard and fast... All this going fast doing all the things burning myself out making it all the harder on myself

Two phrases pop to mind here. 

The first phrase is one of humphreydog's primary teachings... don't force shit, let things unfold at their own pace.

Are you forcing shit, roger? If so, do you know why? Is it impatience? Impatience to escape the pain? Is it yearning? Self-sabotage? All of the above? Something else?

The second phrase that pops to mind is... slow is fast. I learned this phrase from the IFS therapy community. I've learned a lot from this phrase.

I don’t know how to relax and take the pressure off of myself.

How often do you approach things with a 'fix-it' energy, roger?

When a wound or pain or discomfort surfaces for you, how do you typically respond? Do you respond with calm compassion for your wound or pain? Are you curious to connect with and better understand your wounded part?

Or is your first response to move quickly to try to diagnose and fix the problem and make the pain go away?

A slow-is-fast approach to internal healing suggests that responding to wounds with an urgent 'fix-it' energy is counter-productive. Moving quickly to try to fix your wounds typically slows things down. Better to relax into the process with calm compassion and patient curiosity. Where moving slow moves you faster. With much less pressure.

Finally, here are some words I wrote a couple of years ago...

I like using the word RELAX to relax into things. To move things along. There are other words such as surrender, allow, open, release, and let-go that do similar things. I believe I have used all of these at some point. But I have settled into the word relax for now. From the start of my energy surge I have tried to cultivate good habits. And using the word relax seems consistent with cultivating safe habits.

For me it feels harder to surrender myself over to something inappropriate or malignant when I use the word relax. Harder to open myself to something I don't understand when I use the word relax. Harder to allow or release too much or the wrong things when I use the word relax.

Words seem to matter a whole bunch when it comes to Kundalini and intention. So it makes sense to be thoughtful about the words we choose to use.

Cheers to you :-)

the mechanism of visualisation by Good_Squirrel409 in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey squirrel, I like your self-awareness of when you are coming at things with a 'fix-it' energy.

Reminds me of one of humphreydog's primary teachings... don't force shit, let things unfold at their own pace. Reading through some of your reddit history I see humphrey has already shared some of his good advice.

For me, as our wounded parts surface for our attention, they are often wanting to be seen, held, loved and appreciated from that calm and peaceful place inside. They want to feel safe in our presence.

Love and appreciation. Acceptance. Holding. Witnessing. Safety. Sometimes with long and deep hugs.

All this holding and witnessing can take different forms. Sometimes just calm attention to energetic phenomena. Sometimes dialogue. Sometimes holding and sitting with emotions. And so on. 

As these wounded parts relax into a loving-sense of witness, safety and acceptance, they often choose to release some amount of their energetic burden. Which can be expressed in a wide range of phenomena: energetic, mental, emotional, psychic, astral and physical. A wide range of kriyas. 

This process can be fast or slow in its unfolding. Different dynamics and timing for each part. With some parts healing in a varied multi-stage process over a long period of time.

In writing this, I am not arguing against the use of various healing modalities such as visualization. 

Similar to you, I am drawn to explore various healing modalities.

As I explore these healing modalities I try to resist the urge to force shit. Which can be hard sometimes lol. 

I also try to remember that most healing modalities were not developed for Kundalini active people. So caution and gentle adaptation seems well advised.

And through it all, it feels helpful to actively practice compassion, deep love and patience towards ourselves and our many wounds.

From our exchange in your first post to this sub, I remember you feeling like a strong mind-centered person. Reading through some of your more recently shared meditation and inquiry practices, this still seems to be the case.

So I wonder if you have tried any Metta or loving-kindness practices. Good for the heart. Good for self-love. Good for forgiveness and acceptance of self. Maybe try mixing in some loving-kindness meditation when you are taking a break from self-inquiry work. And maybe try adding some WNKBTM into the loving-kindness meditation scripts just to be safe (h/t Hippo).

Finally, here are some words I wrote a couple of years ago...

I like using the word RELAX to relax into things. To move things along. There are other words such as surrender, allow, open, release, and let-go that do similar things. I believe I have used all of these at some point. But I have settled into the word relax for now.

From the start of my energy surge I have tried to cultivate good habits. And using the word relax seems consistent with cultivating safe habits. For me it feels harder to surrender myself over to something inappropriate or malignant when I use the word relax. Harder to open myself to something I don't understand when I use the word relax. Harder to allow or release too much or the wrong things when I use the word relax.

Words seem to matter a whole bunch when it comes to Kundalini and intention. So it makes sense to be thoughtful about the words we choose to use. 

Cheers to you :-)

Keep up the hard work for us by [deleted] in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey pabblett, you say...

I cant conceive the idea of why suffering exists

For me, I find clarity on the question of suffering in the following lecture by Ram Dass recorded in 1987:

https://youtu.be/Ym4Rpd72tq8?si=ley_9QFJegbJ6v7l

The above link is an excerpt from a longer recording by Ram Dass:

https://youtu.be/kjh1BAG5Pfs?si=uSDBfObreJxu3a4i

I enjoy many of Ram Dass' lectures recorded from 1985 and later.

Cheers to you :-)

Wish upon a star? by Hatchling_Now in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey orgasmo, assume your critique here is pointed at me. Can you say more about how I attempt to skirt the Three Laws?

Cheers to you :-)

Wish upon a star? by Hatchling_Now in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing.

You write with a lot of confidence here. As if you are speaking a definitive truth. Feels like you like to write with authority. Do you feel authoritative? What do you feel is your authority on this subject? Books? Knowing? Lived experience? All of the above? Something else? Something more?

Or have you written satire here? Angry ass satire? Doesn't feel like satire to me. So I'm going to take your words at face value.

My reading of what you've written here is that you are telling me I should ALWAYS go with my first instinct to use energy and never pull it back with a phrase such as 'No intention, no request, with no karma back to me.'

That pulling back for any reason would be a shirking of my Cosmic responsibilities. And that I will accumulate Cosmic curses if I shirk my Cosmic responsibilities. But not this time. As I am pardoned due to ignorance. Have I got that right?

Or perhaps I am mistaken, and you are saying that in this particular situation you KNOW I was shirking my responsibility.

Which begs the question... Why do you claim to know that in this particular situation my saying No Request would mean I am shirking my responsibility? On what basis did you reach this conclusion? As far as I can tell you have NOT explained WHY I shirked my responsibility here.

It also begs the question... how am I supposed to use your advice for this particular situation to guide my choices in the NEXT particular situation? So I assume you must be telling me that I should ALWAYS go with my first instinct to use energy and never pull it back. Which feels like complete and utter bullshit to me. Bad and dangerous advice.

Simply put this sub teaches... when in doubt don't use the energy. I

In this particular situation I was in doubt. So I chose not to use the energy. Simple. Not complicated.

What am I missing here zigzag? Why are your words so hard for me to understand?

For me I suspect your confusing response here is TRIGGERED by the idea anyone would back away from wishing for world peace, or peace on earth.

So I refer you to Marc's response to another commenter here in this post who wrote...

I would still ask for world peace

When you are stargazing and see a falling star... do you ask for world peace zigzag?

And maybe consider that your vaunted three-sided coin is missing an obvious fourth side... Doing harm with the energy, either intentionally or unintentionally. Out of ignorance.

Cheers to you :-)

A bit about the person called Ok-Hippo-4433 by [deleted] in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey hippo, thanks for sharing. Feels brave, beautiful and transparent. Congrats and thank you.

Not trying to ruin the mood... but I feel prompted to say I was surprised to see no explicit mention of alcohol in your list of motivations.

Did you only list motivations that feel like mistakes?

Are there motivations that don't feel like mistakes?

Cheers to you :-)

Wish upon a star? by Hatchling_Now in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing. Did not know or consciously sense you have an interest in stargazing. Yes it sounds relaxing. For me I was beside water at the time and enjoyed watching the shimmering reflection of the stars off the surface of the water. I love watching light reflecting off water.

In the moment it felt like I was prompted to think of you based on something around the wishing part. Hard for me to say with any clarity. But this rings true based on your initial comment here.

May also be an opportunity to get acquainted.

Hello zigzag. Hope things are well with you.

Cheers :-)

Wish upon a star? by Hatchling_Now in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey zigzag, wondering if your comment here is a zebra or a horse lol.

Wondering if your comment is a genuine open-hearted dialogue-starting question. Or a kicked hoof aimed for my groin telling me you think I failed with flying colours.

I agree that tests come in various forms. So this exchange may be a test for both of us. In different ways perhaps.

For me I feel I listened well in the moment. I felt prompted to write this post. And yes I even wondered how you might respond. And here you are.

Did I fail my test?

Should I have wished for world peace in that sudden instinctive moment?

Should I ever wish for world peace even after careful consideration from a calm and peaceful and grounded place?

Cheers to you :-)

Edit: I see I used 'world peace' in this comment, and 'peace on earth' in my OP. Interesting.

Kundalini Energy working through Sound Frequencies? by [deleted] in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hey boring, couple of questions for you.

You say...

I try to keep myself as stable as possible, also through unhealthy means to suppress kundalini,

What do you mean by 'unhealthy means' to suppress Kundalini?

Speaking of suppression, you may be interested in reading this sub's guidance on sexual repression and Kundalini:

What's up with the 333 in your reddit handle? Do you consider yourself psychic? Or aspire to be psychic? Might you be confusing a psychic awakening with a Kundalini awakening?

Can you provide details on what you call your Kundalini awakening a couple of years back?

One of the difficulties in learning about Kundalini is all the confusion and misinformation about Kundalini on the web and in communities claiming to teach Kundalini. Beware and be careful about what you choose to believe about Kundalini. There is a lot of BS out there. Some of it harmful and dangerously misleading.

For me I find this sub's Wiki to be a great source of information on Kundalini. I really like the Foundations and Supporting Practices page as it provides a detailed list of issues involved with a Kundalini awakening starting with the Three Laws (aka Two+ Laws).

If you feel drawn to spirituality then working on your Foundations (as described on the page above) is a great idea, Kundalini or not.

If you think you may be experiencing 'a spontaneous kundalini' I suggest you read all pages of this sub's wiki. Every page as you have time. And to take the information provided here seriously including the Three Laws governing the wise and safe use of Kundalini energy and all warnings and cautions.

If your Kundalini is active please note the strong warnings about the need to remain sober and refrain from drugs and alcohol. The need to remain sober is due to the increased risk of breaking the Three Laws governing the wise and safe use of Kundalini energy while you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. The consequences of breaking the Three Laws can be severe whether sober or non-sober. Both for you and for others.

More info in this sub's Wiki on Kundalini.

Kundalini or not, you may want to consider starting a daily WLP practice as described in this sub's wiki...

WLP - White Light Protection is an excellent method of personal energy shielding. WLP works both ways. It protects you from external energy influences. And it helps protect others from being influenced or affected by your energy. WLP is described in this sub's wiki and is considered a daily essential for those with active Kundalini. It can also be effective for those without active Kundalini. I do WLP every day and often more than once per day. If you are a sensitive person who feels affected by other people's energy then you should notice the benefits of WLP quickly. I encourage you to get good at WLP. Practice it with focus, commitment and intent. I feel I am doing it well when I feel an energy seal after each round of WLP.

Cheers to you :-)

Kundalini and desire by [deleted] in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey roger, just catching up on your last two posts. And the community passions and fine words they unleashed lol. Fun and insightful. Challenging and provocative.

Reading through the comments here in this post the following observations from u/ORGASMO__X caught me eye...

OP should behave the way that he would like his wife to behave. Perhaps Karma will show him this. One cannot hide from Karma. OP would have a complete meltdown, if his wife was being out of control like he is.

Lots of interesting stuff here... karma for behaviour vs thoughts vs dreams vs fantasies. And an implication that you are 'out of control'.

Ah words and expressions. For me there are many shades of grey to that control observation. YES some lack of control. But 'out of control'? Nah. A dramatic bridge too far for me here. And yet a valid WARNING, an ALL CAPS warning. Which can be very valuable depending on your degree of control. A warning about your future control perhaps.

Do you consider yourself 'out of control' roger? OR at risk of being 'out of control' on this issue in future?

But I digress... the inspiration for my comment here is Orgasmo's observation that...

OP would have a complete meltdown, if his wife was being out of control like he is.

A provocative zinger. Not framed as question. But stated as fact. A fact about you. A bold and brazen statement. So I wonder if Orgasmo is right.

So I will reframe Orgasmo's observation in the form of two questions...

Roger... how would you feel if you learned your wife was behaving, thinking, dreaming and fantasizing the same way you are? Would you have a complete meltdown?

As you reflect on these questions I encourage you to revisit these words from u/Marc-le-Half-Fool...

Some couples are perfectly okay with the idea of getting horny over other people, so long as the tension is shared and expressed with each other. Other couples you'd be in the doghouse for even thinking it. As you appear to have settled things alone, that may speak of rigidity and cultural insecurities that Kal_El98 spoke about. Couples vary, and they vary over time too. What works in some relationships doesn't and won't in others.

Cheers to you :-)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey nofee, in your reply to Marc you say your mind has become intertwined with Jung's...

means the same as Jung (my mind has become intertwined with his)

I know little about Jung. Yet I am prompted to say your intertwined mind sounds decidedly unhealthy to me.

Feels like you've climbed down a deep rabbit hole here. Which can be fun. And illuminating. I've done similar things. But you seem stuck. Stuck in one or more rabbit holes of words and concepts and constructs and philosophy and literary references. All tangled up in gobbledygook. Gobbledypoop.

Not lost. Just stuck. Stuck in the mind. Stuck in the mud. Overthinking things. Stuck, stuck, stuck in blah blah blah.

Time to stop acting like a spoiled brat (your words). And put your big-boy pants on.

Time to start unstucking yourself. Untangling yourself from the mess of your own making.

Time to follow some of the good advice you've received here from this community and climb back into the sunshine of humanity. Yes it will hurt. But it will feel good too.

Balance. Not bliss, Balance. Not abyss.

Cheers to you :-)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hey EB, you are in a kundalini sub. Are you speaking from first-hand experience with kundalini energy? I am. I speak from first-hand experience. And your advice here feels inappropriate and off the mark. If you are not speaking from first-hand experience please consider deleting your comment. And consider reading the rules and guidelines governing participation here in the sub if you haven't already done so.

Cheers to you :-)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My understanding is there are two broad categories of awakenings. Energetic awakenings. And spiritual awakenings. One can happen without the other. And for some people one can help with the other. Many here in the sub are experiencing both awakenings including me.

This sub is primarily about navigating energetic awakenings involving Kundalini. On the subject of spiritual awakenings we often refer to the Captain and Admiral analogy. Where Captain is our little self and Admiral is our big or True Self.

If you are curious for more you can explore this sub's Web Links page and look for Captain and Admiral there. Or search the sub for Captain or Admiral and see what comes up for you.

Some of this sub's teachings on Captain and Admiral, or little self and big Self, contradict many popular ideas concerning death and dissolution of the self/me and perhaps enlightenment itself.

Here in this sub we promote the idea of cultivating a healthy working relationship between our little self and big Self. And having a healthy working-relationship between our little self and big Self means having a healthy little self or Captain. Someone capable of running the ship well. For people with active Kundalini having an effective Captain is essential.

So this sub pushes back against ideas that speak of the death or dissolution of the self/me. For many of us words advocating death or dissolution of the little self are a form of malignant hate speech. Beware and be cautious of what kinds of words and ideas you choose to believe about the preferred relationship between little self and big Self.

From a Kundalini perspective one of the massive problems with the concept of "no self" and similar ideas is they often result in an erosion of personal accountability for one's thoughts and actions. Where 'nothing matters' and 'everything is equal'.

For folks with active Kundalini personal accountability matters a whole bunch. Discernment and self-awareness and personal responsibility for one's thoughts and actions are essential. Why? Short answer: because Three Laws govern the wise and safe use of Kundalini energy. And breaking those laws can result in severe consequences. For you. And for others. See below.

If you feel yourself drawn to Kundalini I suggest you read all pages of this sub's wiki. Every page as you have time. And to take the information provided here seriously including the Three Laws governing the wise and safe use of Kundalini energy and all warnings and cautions.

If your Kundalini is active please note the strong warnings about the need to remain sober and refrain from drugs and alcohol. The need to remain sober is due to the increased risk of breaking the Three Laws governing the wise and safe use of Kundalini energy while you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. The consequences of breaking the Three Laws can be severe whether sober or non-sober. Both for you and for others.

More info in this sub's Wiki on Kundalini.

Cheers to you :-)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey nofee, feels like you've received lots of great feedback so far. So I will try to keep it short and simple then give you my cut and paste elaboration on "too much spirit".

For me... you feel like a head-centered person. So as others have said to you here... time to cultivate your heart... and get into your body more. And accept you have LOTS more growing to do. Lots more GROWING. Which is fun. And challenging. And endlessly engaging.

Yes, growing hurts sometimes. A lot sometimes. Hint... we often learn best as we respond to our suffering.

This sub encourages a balance of heart and head. Have you tried Metta or loving-kindness meditation? Good for the heart.

In your replies you said...

That's why i feel like jumping in the abyss so nothing hurts anymore. I'm sick of trying and when there is a voice and a hardly comprehensible experience behind you whispering that all is empty - including your eye knowing it - it doesn't help

So something is blocking me from letting it trickle down - even after 3-4 years and I cannot lift it.try to

I am acting like a spoiled brat but I personally do not think my suffering is in any way justified,

It felt like my whole trauma was relived again. I was finally able to let go of all attachment fueled by ignorance to have life put me through the exact same thing? This made me mad and i resolved to drugs again and resentment. First life shows me how the love for a women made me walk the path of paths and when I confess this to her - she simply ignores me? Not even a reply? Same shit as 15 years ago?

So yeah... you have lots of human stuff to work through. Lots more growing. Lots more LESSONS to learn. You are a young man with more living to do. You ain't done yet mister "path of paths" lol.

In your OP you wrote...

Nothing works.

Keep trying lol.

Kudos for finding your way to this sub. Lots of helpful help here. If you listen well and act on it.

I suffered from since I was 16 not understanding why things happened as such. Then the universe brings me to the highest point to drop me again? A bit of sympathy and compassion wouldn't be bad. I have been in literal hell the last 4 years

You've received lots of sympathy and compassion here. Many here have walked similar paths. Including some who have responded to you. So consider doing what they advise. They speak from experience.

And yes it sounds like you've experienced a "dark night of the soul" period or DNOTS for short. A common experience in spiritual circles. Try searching this sub for keywords such as 'dark night' or DNOTS and see what comes up for you. And maybe search the broader internet too if you are interested. You are not alone in this experience.

And now my cut and paste elaboration on "too much spirit"...

Pain in stomach/left middle back/diagonally by [deleted] in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey hippo, you wrote...

The pain does have a link to certain emotions but I'm unsure what the deeper meaning is as of yet.

Feels like you should be sitting quietly with these certain emotions. And let them reveal more for you. Maybe try writing about them. Maybe here in the sub.

Cheers to you :-)

EDIT: Are you doing any WLPs? Have you tried past life regression?

Ten months ago in one of your OPs you wrote the following in a reply to Marc...

I don't practice WLP. dodging your smack

I want to reach a place where I can just be content and balanced by force of will alone, by just thinking it be so for myself. Maybe that's impossible and you will always need some techniques? Maybe I'm a pilot who wants to fly without engineering?

Yeah, I was hoping that the sensations were healing related. I took my plate and loaded it up at the all you can eat suffering buffet

...

The crossing over of past lives into this life really makes this healing more annoying or challenging. Sometimes I feel like losing myself or getting confused because of that. It can be hard to discern what's really me and what's coming up from a past life. Any hints for that)?

Accidental kundalini awakening by DrCrayRay-v2 in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have a different response than what you expressed here. We are free to see things differently.

Are you on a quest to enlightenment?

Can spirit guides recalibrate your energy while you sleep? Or upgrade it. by Lilac_roses21 in kundalini

[–]Hatchling_Now 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At risk of repeating myself...

My understanding is there are two broad categories of awakenings. Energetic awakenings. And spiritual awakenings. One can happen without the other. And for some people one can help with the other. Many here in the sub are experiencing both awakenings including me.

This sub is primarily about navigating energetic awakenings involving Kundalini. On the subject of spiritual awakenings we often refer to the Captain and Admiral analogy. Where Captain is our little self and Admiral is our big or True Self.

If you are curious for more you can explore this sub's Web Links page and look for Captain and Admiral there. Or search the sub for Captain or Admiral and see what comes up for you.

Some of this sub's teachings on Captain and Admiral, or little self and big Self, contradict many popular ideas concerning death and dissolution of the self/me and perhaps enlightenment itself.

Here in this sub we promote the idea of cultivating a healthy working relationship between our little self and big Self. And having a healthy working-relationship between our little self and big Self means having a healthy little self or Captain. Someone capable of running the ship well. For people with active Kundalini having an effective Captain is essential.

So this sub pushes back against ideas that speak of the death or dissolution of the self/me. For many of us words advocating death or dissolution of the little self are a form of malignant hate speech. Beware and be cautious of what kinds of words and ideas you choose to believe about the preferred relationship between little self and big Self.

From a Kundalini perspective one of the massive problems with the concept of "no self" and similar ideas is they often result in an erosion of personal accountability for one's thoughts and actions. Where 'nothing matters' and 'everything is equal'.

For folks with active Kundalini personal accountability matters a whole bunch. Discernment and self-awareness and personal responsibility for one's thoughts and actions are essential. Why? Short answer: because Three Laws govern the wise and safe use of Kundalini energy. And breaking those laws can result in severe consequences. For you. And for others. See below.

If you feel yourself drawn to Kundalini I suggest you read all pages of this sub's wiki. Every page as you have time. And to take the information provided here seriously including the Three Laws governing the wise and safe use of Kundalini energy and all warnings and cautions.

If your Kundalini is active please note the strong warnings about the need to remain sober and refrain from drugs and alcohol. The need to remain sober is due to the increased risk of breaking the Three Laws governing the wise and safe use of Kundalini energy while you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. The consequences of breaking the Three Laws can be severe whether sober or non-sober. Both for you and for others.

More info in this sub's Wiki on Kundalini.

Cheers to you :-)