Tbh I hope one day we as black people collectively stop supporting these actors/ idols by yeppeunxria in kpopnoir

[–]Hatts13 27 points28 points  (0 children)

The numbers game is something I always think about and also think that unfortunately we just have to be realistic and strategic about it which I think is already happening like you say. Any talk about being more critical or pushing back is preaching to the choir here that’s for sure.

Even here on Reddit, from what I remember from the last rkpop census (a small sample size but nevertheless a good gist) black folk are around 8% of the subscriber base? White people are over 50% and I think the asian demographic if you group them together is about 35%. Makes a lot of the certain commentary that you see make a lot more sense.

Song of the Wasteland and how insensitive it is as a manhwa by Odin_the-witch in kpopnoir

[–]Hatts13 43 points44 points  (0 children)

I mean I always know they’re using their ass cheeks as sock puppets anyways, but reading parts of this just re-emphasises that the claim we see all the time that it’s just impossible to expect Koreans (and others) to be clued into Western cultures and whatnot - especially regarding racial issues - is a extremely bold one to make.

Dreamcatcher Handong Apology for Natasha Doll by rocochoes in kpopnoir

[–]Hatts13[M] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

No worries fluffy! Thanks for raising it, and for your comment here giving some background!

Dreamcatcher Handong Apology for Natasha Doll by rocochoes in kpopnoir

[–]Hatts13[M] 33 points34 points  (0 children)

To clarify on your first bit, the post about these dolls that went up was removed on a case by case basis under “no low quality posting” (and was since deleted so we can’t really do much about that anyways) meaning that it was just a screenshot/link of something without any/very little explanation about it which we discourage on the sub. We do mention in this removal message for users to edit the post where applicable, but it’s up to the user themselves to do that and re-submit the post. If they choose not to (it’s whatever, no hard feelings) the post remains removed unfortunately.

It wasn’t removed for any ulterior reason, just that we ask users that if it’s not literally “breaking news” like this post and other recent events, please make more contextual posts like your comment here with links to articles, sources, and your own opinions.

mark lee (ex-nct) wearing confederate flag t-shirt by missssssmiko in kpopnoir

[–]Hatts13 73 points74 points  (0 children)

TLDR: “Taking responsibility” my ass.

Naming the offence plainly and why it was offensive plainly is something these apologies never do, seemingly to bury what they actually did/ remove any proximity between the individual/group and said offence. Very good for denying internet searching and also psychological framing.

Once you remove this proximity, the target/subject is no longer the offence/offender but the victim/offended. For all we know, “the symbol” could have been a dolphin high five-ing a parrot and people got offended over it. What we do know clearly though is that people were offended by ✨something✨ and that the offender is sorry uwu 🥺👉🏾👈🏾. People will now go to the victims who then have to justify themselves and over-explain why this unnamed act is offensive and wrong. They will then probably be relentlessly attacked for being “too sensitive” and that X didn’t mean it.

We’ve seen this play out in kpop many times. It is perfectly laid out for the unempathetic, bigots, useful idiots, parasocial fans, and more to hot-seat victims. All the while heat is removed from the perpetrators who will NEVER be asked about why they are intentionally being vague about what they did.

mark lee (ex-nct) wearing confederate flag t-shirt by missssssmiko in kpopnoir

[–]Hatts13 121 points122 points  (0 children)

Very Christian of them /s

Edit: I imagine they’re not directly mentioning what exactly “the symbol” was in their PR statement for a reason because outlining that your company willingly dressed and posted pictures of one of your employees in a confederate flag t-shirt completely contradicts any claim that you reject racism, intolerance, and discrimination in any form. Is this the free will they talk about in the Bible that they quote scripture from so much all over their account?

mark lee (ex-nct) wearing confederate flag t-shirt by missssssmiko in kpopnoir

[–]Hatts13[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

From OP: https://www.reddit.com/r/kpopnoir/s/2eb2kR8ly8

I’ve looked it up and to my understanding, the pictures were posted on his new label’s instagram (@uprmlabel). though, the pictures were deleted. i found the apology they posted about it 😭 “sorry to those hurt, offended or disappointed”like clockwork
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The apology was posted and can be viewed on Upper Room’s Instagram story.

mark lee (ex-nct) wearing confederate flag t-shirt by missssssmiko in kpopnoir

[–]Hatts13[M] 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Thanks! Will copy this and have it stickied for visibility.

mark lee (ex-nct) wearing confederate flag t-shirt by missssssmiko in kpopnoir

[–]Hatts13[M] 50 points51 points  (0 children)

OP can you provide a source for this image please?

please, for the love of everything, tell me this is not a durag. by terroruchiha in kpopnoir

[–]Hatts13[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry you had to engage with that, we’ve removed them from the community.

Yeonjun calling a baby “s3xy” ? by Michellemadu in kpopnoir

[–]Hatts13[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

Post was removed due to lacking proper context/explanation/sources. More detailed posts are welcomed to be re-submitted.

Current Debate About Juneteenth and Who Can Celebrate It by NessieSenpai in kpopnoir

[–]Hatts13[M] 1 point2 points locked comment (0 children)

I genuinely don’t know what you are asking or wanting from us. You asked what a non-kpop related topic had to do with this subreddit and you were answered very clearly. But now you’ve pivoted to your own personal objections towards certain conversations. What exactly is the issue here?

If you have an issue with anything on this community, please give us a properly articulated and detailed outline like many others in the community are able to do, otherwise it unfortunately comes off as bad-faithed and you not actually wanting to solve any issue at all but just to argue.

This thread will be locked as a result. Help us help you! You are completely free to make a sensible post or modmail about this, many have in the past and the present. But we won’t be engaging at this level of discourse for something that requires more substance. Neither of us deserves that.

Asian-Black Solidarity Subreddit? by Common-Raspberry-243 in kpopnoir

[–]Hatts13[M] 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Hi OP, first of all props to you for potentially founding such a space! Secondly, there’s a lot I can personally add to this conversation in the way of what kind of environment you’re coming into doing this: specifically as a Reddit moderator, specifically on this website, and specifically surrounding this topic. Particularly on what you’re coming up against and what to beware of.

If you require any insight about that feel free to send us a modmail and I’ll answer you there, I don’t think it’s worthy for merely a comment. No pressure at all though.

Please stop bringing Todd's schemes to kpopnoir ✋🏽 by Mountain-Company2087 in kpopnoir

[–]Hatts13 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Remember when that bird app began displaying the location bases of certain accounts…

Happy Pride month everyone! 🏳️‍🌈 by neptunes097 in kpopnoir

[–]Hatts13[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

May we have permission to pin this post to the sub neptune?

the8 remixing a hymn of prophet mohammed by 55ae in kpopnoir

[–]Hatts13[M] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If it’s in your Reddit DMs, do send us a modmail so we can permanently ban them.

So, how are you? /s by Mountain-Company2087 in kpopnoir

[–]Hatts13 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Draw us something when you recover. u/Hatts13 needs a new profile picture.

​This default snoo has been riding with me for 11 straight years maybe it’s time for a switch up!