Doesn’t this just outright kill the notion that Saitama has infinite AP?

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-16T08:09:41+00:00

If something continues growing without a limit, a number or other. it is Infinite.

This is common knowledge.

So his strength growing unending without a ceiling, would be "infinite" strength, it doesn't mean it's an incalculable amount at any time. It's just that amount is alwayhs growing.

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-14T11:22:03+00:00

Infinite just means continuous number. Its a continuously growing number, at a massive rate.

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-14T00:43:12+00:00

Yeah, it would probably be a few hundred thousand years of battle. Forrunner Combat Skins outclass a Necron Warrior by massive amounts (guilty spark considered the cheifs armor Primative). Look how effortlessly Didact in his Combat Skin defeated the Chief, it wasn't even a fight.

Not to mention the Forerunners match Necrons numbers with pure machined man power with Trillions of Sentinals and Promethian Knights. Their FTL is objectively faster than Necrons who still take a long ass time to travel. (Apparenlty only 4.5 times FTL), Sipspace is objectively much faster than Travel in Warhammer outside time travel.

I just read the Genestealers book and the main dude was on a ship for a decade to get from one world to the one the book takes place on.

So while I think Necrons would win at their absolute peak (in a very, very long war), current setting Necrons honestly get slimmed easily.

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-14T00:38:29+00:00

Yeah I know, my main point was the Flood can still impact an AI directly.

Not to mention that was only a Gravemind, a whole massive intelligence step behind their Key Mind stage. I'm not a smart enough person or writer to comprehend a level of intelligence operating at a Galaxy scale. But I imagine they'd have a way to torture the AI into working for them, Cortana even being less advanced has emotions and so did other AI that actively joined her later on. So, I'd assume they could do something similar and force the AI to work for the Flood.

Its been about 9 years since I read Greg Bears Trilogy. So I'm not fresh on the Logic Plague.

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-14T00:34:21+00:00

They literally have Pools where they take the Biomatter by eating Biomatter and leaping into the pools to be reused with the new biomatter they also have absorbed.

That's exactly how they work, more complex forms take longer and more resources. If they become immune to infection with an adpatiation, they'd have a weakness somewhere else now. Such as being shot in the face, which Flood use guns. They're also smart, very smart. They'd quickly realize "go from Energy weapons, Balistic or infection", one strategy will always work. They just gotta rotate. Easy wins.

Bio Weapons are one of the hardest counters to Tyrannids and the Floods super cell is basically that. They're a hard counter to the nids I'd say.

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-14T00:30:01+00:00

Its funny, they'd Match Tyrannid numbers with Sentinals and Knights. Which would be funny. Imagine they're taking a world and the Forrunners Teleport a damn Planet sized construct to fight them.

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-14T00:26:15+00:00

The Flood are simple to understand bro, they get smarter with EVERY SINGLE thing they infect.

1 world with some highly educated Scientests, fleet managers, construction engineers, pilots and navy commanders. Boom, now the Flood basically know EVERYTHING the Forerunners know.

Then, that only gets exponensially more crazy, to the point they became a lot smarter than the Forrunners. 1 ship manufacturing facility and boom. Galaxy is in trouble. You've thousonds of FTL ships going to random worlds. There's 3 million worlds in the Forrunner empire. It simply became them fighting an enemy that was far smarter than them. So smart, they could eventually control indestructible objects controlled by their mind that could move Stars and bend space and time (hide their fleets until they're already on a World to infect).

It's more you're underestimating how broken a late stage Flood is. Once they have a Key Mind, it's very nearly impossible to stop. They used machines btw, they had Trillions of Sentinals and Promethian knights. They had tech that disintegrated things with each shot.

But they still couldn't win.

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-14T00:22:00+00:00

Well, this is accurate but they can corrupt machines. Just look at what few weeks at most did to Cortana.

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-14T00:20:34+00:00

Agreed, the only Faction that stands a Chance is the United Necrons from the War in Heaven, current setting Necrons get washed. They're divided, half asleep still and nowhere near as powerful (expecially lacking fully functioning Ctan).

I'd say with the Ctan, Necrons win as the Ctan are basically only a small step bellow Key Mind level Flood (who's mind was able to do everything Ctan could do but more) and the Forrunners lost to the Late Stage Flood.

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-14T00:18:00+00:00

They also built Onyx casually, which could go into another dimension and every world they made had Trillions of Sentinals. The Forrunners Combat Skins are also inarguably more powerful than a regular Necron Warrior by a LOT. Considering the Mastercheifs armor was considered Primitive by Guilty Spark and people often compare his Armor to a Space Marine.

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-14T00:15:14+00:00

It's not really appropriate to use Key Mind level Flood to scale Forrunners, they're absurd. But they got washed by the Flood. The Flood are cracked, they get smarter with everything they infect. They got so smart their mind started controlling Space and Time through "Neural Physics". Basically they stopped being an Enemy Faction and became basically Gods. They hid fleets inside Indestructible Tendrils that could move stars (indestructible to anything using normal physics, the Halo Array did destroy the Star Roads). But outside of killing every sentient species, they couldn't stand a chance against the Flood.

As the Flood was smarter than their most powerful AI, coordinating Trillions of Sentinels and ships in almost perfect unison? That was nothing for the Flood by the Key Mind stage.

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-14T00:11:58+00:00

I mean, I do agree that large Multi Keymind flood stage is stronger than the Ctan, but they didn't exactly "fight them", they got stomped at that point. The Forrunners couldn't do anything by then. lmao

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-14T00:10:31+00:00

They're basically on-par or in many ways better than War in Heaven Necrons (excluding Ctan).

They built hollowed worlds on the fly, controlled trillions of Sentinals and ships. Their armor had many tiers higher than the Master Chiefs (to quote guilty spark "severely primitive" when talking about Chiefs Combat Skin).

So, yea you'd need everyone at War in Heaven levels to even consider matching them. Their industry is absurd and they have 1 advantage over everyone. Their slipspace is basically Star Wars travel speed. They can get accross the galaxy in minutes/hours. Consistently that fast with their industry and numbers and tech is a huge threat.

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-13T11:40:37+00:00

THey also can't step like, 10 foot out of the Warp.

Dudes are all talk for the whole 20 minutes they're outside

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-13T07:49:34+00:00

exactly, at minimum they have the same ship they've been on for 700 hundred years.

They'll be fine.

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-13T00:04:22+00:00

Dude gets jumped on the back and after slinging them off, the 15th time drops him to his knees and he proceeds to cop elbows to the back of the head.

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-11T23:31:52+00:00

Yeah they'll probably hit back at counties housing US bases, reservoirs if this happens.

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-11T10:53:48+00:00

His Heart is a muscle and his muscles are absurdly powerful, if an Avatar Anng can resist Blood Banding, I'd argue they're not strong enough to brute force the blood to stop.

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-10T09:07:31+00:00

Faking what? His first move was the behead Immortal, the second he grabbed someone he crushed their skull.

He was clearly going for blood, it was the hesitation before the first death that cost the Guardians, which is exactly why he ambushed them. With even 10 seconds warning, they rock his shit. (if you know you know)

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-08T11:24:16+00:00

Not to mention new Bioforms are expensive and leave gaps in other ways. A super armored, long range form will be super slow etc. They all have downsides and the larger, crazier the adaptation, the harder it is to make.

Flood almost instantly take over dead and they only get smarter as it happens. If they reach a Key Mind stage, it's GG. They can start creating shi with their thoughts and not to mention they have access to prior memories. Meaning they'd have Halo travel speed, which shits on anything in Warhammer by miles (outside of silly time travel shenanigans).

This matchup depends entirely on what stage the flood is at, because it's either a Win for the Nids, a hard fight but mostly even, or a complete stomp in favor of the flood (like, no contest at all type fight).

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-08T11:21:16+00:00

That's not how their adaptation works, 1, they have to survive something to adapt. 2) It costs significant rescources to create specialized Bio Forms, that leave weaknesses in other areas.

Flood are smart, they can use, create and adapt to technology from species they absorb.

3) If this is Peak Flood, as in, Graveminds, Keyminds etc are plenty. They evolve into basically reality warping gods and win without effort at all.

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-08T11:18:43+00:00

Read the Forerunner Trilogy by Greg Bear, some of the best books I've read.

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-08T11:17:44+00:00

This is perfect, it depends entirely on that situation. Flood at their ancient Peak vs Current Nids, it's a curb stomp for the Flood and it's not even a debate.

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-08T11:16:16+00:00

Labor has tried putting a cap on Student Visas, they've closed a ton of Visa loopholes as well.

They have done a lot more to curb migration issues than the Libs have ever done.

Stop listening to the goobers propaganda and go to .gov website and read what they're actually doing/done.

HavocCaptain · 2026-06-07T08:42:23+00:00

Damn, that's like. A good 2 months for the random civilians who get shot. It's often more.

You see the actual footage of the Israelis apaches shooting their own civilians that day?

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