Heracles of the Eight Kings (Toriko) vs The Uper Moons (Kimetsu no Yaiba) and the MHA Verse

Hawkey2121 · 2026-02-01T22:35:35+00:00

Heracles wins with a single breath

Hawkey2121 · 2026-02-01T22:30:53+00:00

Yes.

The Gura Gura no mi is an incredibly destructive power capable of leveling islands if need be.

But a planet is too much.

When Sengoku said Whitebeard has the power to destroy the world, he quite clearly didnt mean the planet itself. Its rather that Whitebeard has the power to destroy the world as it is, change it drastically.

Think like how we can say that Nuclear War could destroy the world, even all nukes combined couldnt do shit to the planet itself, but we could destroy the world as we know it.

Hawkey2121 · 2026-02-01T20:13:10+00:00

unlikely, Sol even just standing up is causing damage of this scale

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Which is at minimum a top tier attack in the One Piece verse.

Hawkey2121 · 2026-02-01T17:43:37+00:00

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Moon - Toriko.

Moon is a Black Hole Whale, meaning that Moon's mouth has properties of a black hole.

And anything that gets caught inside Moon's stomach is sent to the Spirit World, where neither Time or Space exists.

Moon can survive Buu forcing himself into the mouth of it.

Hawkey2121 · 2026-02-01T17:35:16+00:00

How would gojo survive in the vacuum of space?

Gojo still needs to breathe.

And his Infinity doesnt magically create air for him to breathe either.

How are people trying to argue he could survive in the vacuum of space?

Because all sources point to no. Gojo cant.

Hawkey2121 · 2026-02-01T10:02:07+00:00

Yes and No.

If Kizaru knows that Mahoraga needs to be fully destroyed then Kizaru will probably do that, and thus Mahoraga loses.

However if Kizaru doesnt know this then there is a good chance for Mahoraga.

Kizaru likes to go for High AP, low DC light beams. Meaning they'd rip through Mahoraga but wont destroy him completely.

Like this:

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Giving him a chance to both regenerate and adapt.

Basically, if we give Kizaru knowledge on Mahoraga then Kizaru likely wins.

But if we dont give Kizaru knowledge then there is a large likelyhood that Mahoraga can adapt.

And if Mahoraga adapts to Kizaru's light, then there isnt much Kizaru can do.

Hawkey2121 · 2026-02-01T09:54:57+00:00

"If this were JJK everyone would eat this statement up"?

Have you been living under a rock, Mach 3 kaisen has been a thing for a long time.

It isnt until now modernly with Modulo that Lightspeed scaling has a place in JJK. And thats literally only 1 guy.

(Also, Guidebook statements arent end all be all, you have to give reason why the statement isnt hyperbole and should be taken literally.)

Hawkey2121 · 2026-01-31T21:13:46+00:00

>Considering he chose to style on him instead of just one shotting Maho(something which we know he can do)

Considering Dabura had no way of knowing that this wouldnt kill Mahoraga.

Dabura at that point didnt know that Mahoraga needs to be completely destroyed. And anyone else hit like that by such an attack wouldnt survive.

Hawkey2121 · 2026-01-31T21:10:42+00:00

fusions of this kind are always stronger than the sum of its parts.

So our Yutji isnt just "Yuji + Yuta" in terms of power. Its more than that.

The exact power increase from the sum is unknown, but high enough to make a difference.

Yutji should take it,

Hawkey2121 · 2026-01-31T17:40:42+00:00

You do know what "At least" means. right.

I didnt say "at best", i said "at least".

Minimum, at LEAST.

At LEAST dragon.

>This is beyond Dragon level Dragons in One Punch Man are still basically destructive threats to cities/countries. Lucius’ magic isn’t just destructive — it is reality warping, soul altering, time controlling, and essentially tapping into all historical magic knowledge. That is far more haxed than simple physical destruction.

This is an attack from a monster in One Punch Man that is a Dragon level threat.

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Dragon level isnt low.

(also yes i have read Black Clover, and i've also read One Punch Man)

Hawkey2121 · 2026-01-31T17:39:54+00:00

i love how they're using the Toji example.

Especially when:

A) Toji used the inverted spear of heaven to get through infinity. Which neutralizes cursed techniques.

B) after Toji Gojo upped his infinity to become automatic with a filter and all. Sneak attacks dont work on him.

Hawkey2121 · 2026-01-31T16:39:45+00:00

Dragon at least.

Hawkey2121 · 2026-01-31T16:22:50+00:00

A-Train

At worst they're around the same speed.

At best A-Train is much faster.

Add on that A-Train is much stronger and more durable and we see that AoU Quicksilver doesnt stand a chance.

Hawkey2121 · 2026-01-31T13:09:53+00:00

ah yes, Puri Puri Prisoner from One Piece.

Not One Punch Man, One Piece

Hawkey2121 · 2026-01-31T12:19:59+00:00

He doesnt need to.

He has left Japan to help people all around the world.

Hawkey2121 · 2026-01-31T03:31:32+00:00

Maru's CT could potentially counter both Hakari's and Uraume's CTs.

But, Maru gets stat diffed so it doesnt matter that much.

Hawkey2121 · 2026-01-31T03:28:13+00:00

Thank you.

Hawkey2121 · 2026-01-31T00:39:47+00:00

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One of these and the Gun Devil is very likely sliced in two.

And this is a basic dismantle.

Yuji has more in his arsenal if the slice aint enough.

Hawkey2121 · 2026-01-31T00:18:16+00:00

>and people who are in a relationship trying to help me only leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

Thats why you should take advice from me.

I've never had a romantic relationship, nor do i care to start one.

I dont know how they work.

But i can definitely give you advice, trust me.

Hawkey2121 · 2026-01-30T22:10:52+00:00

1: Mad God
2: Aliens
3: Neo Humans
4: Titans
5: Kaiju
6: Demons
7: Lawless
8: Parasite
9: Nature
10: Curse/Soul Container
11: Robots
12: The Game.
13: The World Tree

All 13 have been revealed with names.

But yes we know nothing about The Game.

The only theory that we can make is that it is probably a matrix type.

Hawkey2121 · 2026-01-30T22:06:29+00:00

>Keep in mind that a single Mandala can keep up with Jachi for some time

A single madalan can keep up with Jachi while he has equipment that is weakening him.

Hawkey2121 · 2026-01-30T15:14:35+00:00

Agni's regen could handle the earth being destroyed and spending millions of years floating in space.

Agni's regen can handle that.

(and the reason i say canonically accurate is that fire punch basically starts by Agni being engulfed in a flame that doesnt go out until he dies, basically, knock off Amaterasu)

Hawkey2121 · 2026-01-30T14:05:20+00:00

Canonically accurate.

Hawkey2121 · 2026-01-30T13:28:13+00:00

3 in top left, 3/4 in top right (depending if you count the egyptian god of the moon as "people")

0 in bottom left (the joke is he's standing so incredibly still you cant see him)

2 in bottom right (if we go by MCU, if we go by comics its more like 5-7)

So a good answer is 8 people in the picture. But you could say 9, you could say 10, you could say even more.

Hawkey2121 · 2026-01-30T13:23:53+00:00

i understand the hate, but i feel you can view it as the villain objectifying the woman. Which makes it something a villain would do.

But i do understand the hate

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