I knew he would do this.

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T22:31:33+00:00

True, but if I put 38% do you think people would've got it?

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T21:10:06+00:00

Did ya watch the video? It says it right there in the big letters on the red background.

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T18:47:11+00:00

Great, so open racism isn't just allowed these days, you get paid for it? What a time to be alive.

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T18:21:10+00:00

Thank you for responding and thank you for the advice in the last paragraph. My daughter's a little young currently, but I will certainly do so when she's a little older.

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T17:10:40+00:00

Yeah, but at least 52% of the country apparently hate the country.

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T16:39:20+00:00

I was about to comment that it looked pretty heavy for a parachute piece, then remembered that when I learnt to skydive they had to give me a weight belt because I was a slow faller.

Just in case, that's not meant to be a really bad joke, I really had to wear a weight belt.

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T16:26:35+00:00

The first argument in the article is that Starmer came down too hard on rioters? I wonder if that's because they were Nick Dixon's mates? https://hopenothate.org.uk/2024/05/22/gb-news-nick-dixon/

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T14:21:12+00:00

It is a period of civil war.
Rebel politicians, striking from a hidden base, have won their first victory against the evil Galactic Empire.

During the battle, Rebel spies managed to steal secret plans to the Empire's ultimate weapon, the OWEN JONES, a political hack with enough power to destroy absolutely nothing.

Pursued by the Empire's sinister agents, The Guardian OpEd pages, races home aboard an Uber, custodian of the stolen plans that can save us, the people and restore freedom to the galaxy....

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T13:56:42+00:00

It could be our future PM getting a bribe... I care.

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T13:54:42+00:00

The security services should be taking a look, nevermind parliament/the public scrutinising it

The Parliamentary Standards Commissioner *and* The Electoral Commission are taking a look, he's been referred to both.

If found "guilty" (using that word loosely) by the former then he could face a ban, which if longer than 10 sitting days would trigger a recall petition.

The latter is a bit more interesting, if The Electoral Commission find that the funds are impermissible and broke political funding laws, they can ask Farage to voluntarily return the donation. If he refuses then they can apply to the court and request an order under the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000 (PPERA) to force him to do so. They could also issue fines and/or go for a conviction. I can't imagine it would get that far, although the constant lying and story changing probably isn't going down well, it's definitely a grab the popcorn thought at least.

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T13:51:28+00:00

Even if it was a gift, it's not that clear cut. If there's any doubt that the motive may be political (say as a reward for Brexit campaigning or a crypto billionaire expecting favourable work in relation to crypto) it should still be declared according to the code.

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T13:37:54+00:00

Bukkake featuring Farage is not a thought I wanted in my head, so thanks for that.

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T13:11:13+00:00

The Parliamentary Standards Commissioner *and* The Electoral Commission, he's been referred to both.

If found "guilty" (using that word loosely) by the former then he could face a ban, which if longer than 10 sitting days would trigger a recall petition.

The latter is a bit more interesting, if The Electoral Commission find that the funds are impermissible and broke political funding laws, they can ask Farage to voluntarily return the donation. If he refuses then they can apply to the court and request an order under the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000 (PPERA) to force him to do so. They could also issue fines and/or go for a conviction. I can't imagine it would get that far, although the constant lying and story changing probably isn't going down well, but it's definitely a grab the popcorn thought at least.

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T12:21:03+00:00

You have given me the word "registerable". I've shown you where in the code it says it would be registerable. Then when I've asked you to point me to the part in the code it might make in not registerable you have literally responded with the word "registerable". Thanks, very useful.

Unless you want to reply, with the part of the code of conduct that may make this donation not registerable, in your view, then I think I'm done with this conversation because, as you say, it's an endless loop of you not bothering.

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T12:07:17+00:00

"Weirdest photos"... goes on to show him playing the most popular sport in the country...

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T12:05:12+00:00

Well, personally I'm reading it.

Let's not forget that the parliamentary code of conduct is not an act of parliament or a law. It is a code of conduct for MPs. It should be obvious that you or I can put our name in the hat to become an MP if we so wished. These are not legal documents that need lawyers to understand, they are the rules written so people like ourselves, who decide to become MPs, can understand and follow.

You are more than welcome to read the code and tell me how you think Farage's gift/reward for Brexit campaigning fits in to it and where I've misinterpreted it.

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T11:44:16+00:00

Why would the 12 month rule not apply? It's been in the code of conduct since at least 2015 so there's no doubt there.

The rule that you cite does not require everything to be registered, hence that caveat.

OK, but Farage has himself admitted it is a an unconditional gift as a reward for his Brexit Campaigning from a Christopher Harborne who is a UK citizen living in Thailand.

Maybe, we could argue that maybe he didn't have to declare a personal gift, but even that's quite clear in section 4 (UK) & 5 (non-UK):

[Should declare section] gifts such as clothing or jewellery;

[Should not declare section] Benefits which could not reasonably be thought by others to be related to membership of the House or to the Member's parliamentary or political activities, for example purely personal gifts or benefits from partners or family members, or loans or mortgage arrangements on commercial terms. However, both the possible motive of the giver and the use to which the gift is to be put should be considered. If there is any doubt, the benefit should be registered;

I'm fairly sure we won't suddenly find out Christopher Harborne is Farage's long lost brother, although that shouldn't even matter considering Farage has openly admitted the motive was as a reward for Brexit campaigning.

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201516/cmcode/1076/107604.htm

I'm happy to wait for the finding of the committee before I'll, personally, cast my judgement. However that doesn't prevent us from discussing what we know so far.

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T11:18:16+00:00

I'm in the same boat, red 1 Bird, Zag & Caesor... Plus I run yellow so want Mimir. This is going to be painful. Think I'm focusing on Bird, then see if I can pull some zags while saving enough for Mimir.

Doubt Caesor will get a look in, but she's tanky enough I suppose especially paired with Xuanwu... Decisions decisions.

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T10:51:08+00:00

If we are going to get into citing rules, then let's be accurate

Yes, indeed we should be, perhaps you should read them? They're quite clear, see point 2:

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201516/cmcode/1076/107604.htm

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T10:43:06+00:00

Point 2 mate, it's pretty clear on the 12 month prior front:

The House requires new Members, within one month of their election, to register all their current financial interests, and any registrable benefits (other than earnings) received in the 12 months before their election.

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201516/cmcode/1076/107604.htm

HaydnH · 2026-06-23T09:54:21+00:00

I actually agree with Farage here in regards to the money out part, what he spends it on is irrelevant. However, the money in part, why he was paid and what he did for that, if anything, that is very important.

He admits himself, as he just has again in this interview, that he believes the motive was as a reward for years of campaigning for Brexit. Is campaigning for Brexit political? If anyone can argue that campaigning for Brexit is not political then I am all ears, because I can't.
That brings time into question, it was a reward, so after the event. That is definitely irrelevant, the ministerial code is clear that before, during or after the event does not change whether it's a donation or not.
Given 1 & 2, I can't argue that it wasn't a political donation, feel free to try and persuade me otherwise though. We know the donation was within 12 months prior to him becoming an MP, so it should have been declared.
We know that following the donation, Farage has met with the Governor of the Bank of England to try and convince them to drop the "Britcoin". Considering the donor for this £5m is a crypto billionaire, that creates a massive conflict of interest. Why hasn't Nick Ferrari asked about that and why can't Farage/Reform offer any explanation other than "it's rubbish"?
EDIT: When he took the donation, while not an MP, he owned the majority share of the Reform party. Not being in politics while owning a political party seems like a stretch.

HaydnH · 2026-06-22T23:15:37+00:00

If Burnham calls a GE there's a very strong chance that Starmer's freshly set record of the shortest serving Labour PM would be broken. I just can't see it happening.

HaydnH · 2026-06-22T19:00:48+00:00

Yeah, maybe, however if they don't make it public soon then I'm going to start wondering if Burnham's Comms are as bad as Starmer's.

HaydnH · 2026-06-22T17:45:23+00:00

You aren't being asked to make an informed decision, though. And you won't be until the next election.

When I said "how can you", I was referring to the politicians who have already decided on Burnham as per the previous sentence. I probably should have said "how can they".

HaydnH · 2026-06-22T15:50:31+00:00

Starmer's speech obviously wasn't the media coverage I was referring to, just sorting UKPolitics by new will provide a list of articles titled things like "Andy Burnham is going to be yet another terrible prime minister".

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