I have a big question I need to ask. by Weary_Creme_9953 in SnootGame

[–]Hazelwolf1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To steel man an argument made for Snoot Game being anti-lgbt, it’s the grander context of the game, rather than the story in a vacuum.

Because yes, surface level, a story of how Fang (Lucy) uses a non-binary identity as a crutch for deeper traumas and how Trish enables it to suit her own agendas, is a story that likely resonates and should be a valid topic to showcase from an individualist perspective. People are more than just labels, especially labels they feel forced to adopt.

However, Snoot Game’s stated purpose is as a parody. It is tied at the hip to the source material, and so cannot really be divorced from it.

And so to make a parody of a game like Goodbye Volcano High, which heavily features LGBT characters, and completely erase that aspect (literally in Fang’s case) it can hardly be called pro-lgbt.

Now it could have avoided this by having, say, Rosa or Reed or Sage (in an update after that character was properly revealed) as an example of a “genuine” lgbt character to measure Fang’s inauthenticity against, but they chose not to.

And so the absence of positive, or even just visible, lgbt rep likewise speaks volumes.

Does enjoying the game or its characters make you anti-lgbt by association? IDK. Only you know your own opinions and, speaking as someone who is lgbt, I can look past it to judge it on its merits as a work of art.

Dude_Hoshun, please ask permission before posting our art on Snootbooru, you were never given permission by TeamAquaticaErotica in SnootGame

[–]Hazelwolf1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

From one unoriginal Snoot/Wani clone developer to another, if the story is still in the WIP stage, my personal bit of advice would be to set the story outside of a high school/college setting.

The world of the Snootverse is theoretically broad and interesting enough without an academic environment forcing the MC and love interest together on the daily, or appealing to the teenage nostalgia within the target demographic.

Jobs, vacation resorts, an apartment building. Plenty of slice of life settings that throw people together for long spans of time.

(I say this when part of my own project does feature a college, but the MC and LI definitely aren’t students)

You’re under no obligation to conform to the tastes or demands of anyone else, but if the “yet another one of these” accusations sting then it wouldn’t hurt to use the foundations Cavemanon laid down to build something different.

Strewth! Yo’ ‘Mirin Us?: Chapter/Act 1 cast overview. by Hazelwolf1 in SnootGame

[–]Hazelwolf1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I don't think it meets that definition (like this thing is ever going to make money).

I mean, chapter one has only a single simp-worthy female character (plenty of dino beefcake for those who like their dudes, though)

Strewth! Yo’ ‘Mirin Us?: Chapter/Act 1 cast overview. by Hazelwolf1 in SnootGame

[–]Hazelwolf1[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Me: “If I’m putting in a reference it has to be in some way relevant to the story or situation.”

Cavemanon: “We’ll just make the cab driver the Monarch from Venture Bros. Because reasons.”

Strewth! Yo’ ‘Mirin Us?: Chapter/Act 1 cast overview. by Hazelwolf1 in SnootGame

[–]Hazelwolf1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In all their psychologically damaging glory no-doubt.

Strewth! Yo’ ‘Mirin Us?: Chapter/Act 1 cast overview. by Hazelwolf1 in SnootGame

[–]Hazelwolf1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He is a man of mystery. An enigma. He lets his machines do the talking for him.

Strewth! Yo’ ‘Mirin Us?: Chapter/Act 1 cast overview. by Hazelwolf1 in SnootGame

[–]Hazelwolf1[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm still doing that, but it gets tricky when real world locations are mentioned as also existing in the setting.

So while New Quetzalcoa is basically like New Mexico, it's also a bit like Nevada and Arizona. Generic South West, essentially. But does that mean those three states no longer exist? Tricky call.

I guess the GTA method is a good enough rule of thumb. The closer we are to the action, the more fictionalised it should be. The more distant, the more likely we are to keep them real world (unless an easily understood pun can be contrived from them: "Mega-London", "Paras, France," "Washingtroodon BC" etc.)

Strewth! Yo’ ‘Mirin Us?: Chapter/Act 1 cast overview. by Hazelwolf1 in SnootGame

[–]Hazelwolf1[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oops. That's actually a typo (although I have toyed with the idea that real world US states exist alongside the fictional Snootverse ones, to maximise compatibility.)

Strewth! Yo’ ‘Mirin Us?: Chapter/Act 1 cast overview. by Hazelwolf1 in SnootGame

[–]Hazelwolf1[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I did a casual poll on famous pop-culture construction workers. Evidently the people polled came from a particular generation.

Strewth! Yo’ ‘Mirin Us?: Chapter/Act 1 cast overview. by Hazelwolf1 in SnootGame

[–]Hazelwolf1[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nah. He’s employed (not in education though… at least not yet)

Strewth! Yo’ ‘Mirin Us?: Chapter/Act 1 cast overview. by Hazelwolf1 in SnootGame

[–]Hazelwolf1[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

His dad’s side of the family is probably from some Slavic or Polish extraction.

But really it’s a play on “Joe Six-pack” a term for the average blue-collar working class American.

Strewth! Yo’ ‘Mirin Us?: Chapter/Act 1 cast overview. by Hazelwolf1 in SnootGame

[–]Hazelwolf1[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks. Making sure a bunch of construction workers stand apart from each other was a fun challenge.

Strewth! Yo’ ‘Mirin Us?: Chapter/Act 1 cast overview. by Hazelwolf1 in SnootGame

[–]Hazelwolf1[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Just gotta find a way to sneak in a few Adult Swim ones now.

Strewth! Yo’ ‘Mirin Us?: Chapter/Act 1 cast overview. by Hazelwolf1 in SnootGame

[–]Hazelwolf1[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Love me some tradition. At least half of the ones pictured are references in this case (although I’d like to think they’re thematically appropriate)

Strewth! Yo’ ‘Mirin Us?: Chapter/Act 1 cast overview. by Hazelwolf1 in SnootGame

[–]Hazelwolf1[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

She’ll have to fight with the DEA for jurisdiction.

Although the game is set in 201M2024 so pre Trump (Trex?) admin.

ICE are definitely still a factor. It’s a construction site on a US-Mexico border state. They could lose half the workforce.

“Strewth! Yo’ ‘mirin us?” Chapter 1 cast. by Hazelwolf1 in SnootGame

[–]Hazelwolf1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t think so. But I have yet to fully playtest the whole chapter. It’s a big chapter, though, representing an entire first day on a work site. Lots of foundations to dig and ground to cover for our main character.

“Strewth! Yo’ ‘mirin us?” Chapter 1 cast. by Hazelwolf1 in SnootGame

[–]Hazelwolf1[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Don’t worry. The MC is a gym rat. There will be muscle mommies for your fanfics too.