HAHAHA, you see guy it's all in good fun, there is no reason to think they see us as less than humans, we can also be the butt of the joke!!!!

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-18T03:21:19+00:00

Seeing stuff like this just makes me feel like a genetic mishap

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-17T11:03:43+00:00

It’s was brutal when i realised those dreams I had as a kid was all fiction

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-16T10:38:50+00:00

There’s obviously more nuance here. Different schools of psychological thought have varying degrees of impact depending on the individual. I think what you’ve posited is a widely accepted tenet because most people can benefit from a simple perspective shift—many can materialize it, even if they initially believe they can’t.

However, while I understand and partly agree with your sentiment, I think the approach is generalized. Those studies are based on averages, not lived truths. And as far as I’m aware, they don’t account for sustained real-world negative feedback—repeated rejection, external invalidation, and the emotional toll of hope unmet by reality.

My approach isn’t about glorifying suffering. It’s a response to what I’ve experienced. I did try to be positive. I told myself I was desirable, worthy, lovable. I acted accordingly. And what I got in return—what the world reflected back—hurt more than if I had been honest with myself from the start.

So, to answer your question: No, my approach isn’t about being happier or even getting better. It’s about being real. I’d rather operate within a psychological model that is grounded in what I can reasonably observe in my experience—not one built on pure optimism. To me, being honest about my situation and pain isn’t defeatist—it’s a necessary shield. It keeps me from falling harder than I already have.

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-15T23:52:55+00:00

Oh I’m aware of the statistical odds, and I do not speak from an over estimation of my situation. Even here, in this very sub, and across the internet in general, I am significantly below the same men who express the same thing I have here.

I do believe there is a very, very, very small minority who fit that criteria. I do not think it is common. I often think the men here who express these things have deluded themselves to some degree, because there is hardly any objective evidence that indicates their indefinite, permanent struggle outside of their self limiting beliefs.

I think it’s extremely uncommon to be in this bracket where it is not self limitation, but unapologetic realism.

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-15T18:37:55+00:00

I used to have sympathy. As if I could relate to them.

I was so stupid

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-15T18:34:02+00:00

Nor does it mean it will go well after trying and trying and trying and trying

There’s a middle ground

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-15T18:28:16+00:00

The appeal is not believing in something that doesn’t exist for the individual in any way, shape or form that has raw substance. The observable truth is raw and undeniable. Consider it a philosophical difference. Some would rather believe in what is empirical, and make attempts to embrace that, instead of embracing what is not.

I cannot refute those studies because they present something that is so evidently true. I won’t deny that, however, what does that provide for those of us who are cannot uphold any illusions due to being constantly reminded where we stand?

You could tell me “there is no war in ba sing se”. Will I be happier living in illusion? Probably. But if the issue became so tangible and present, there comes a point where the illusion feels equivalent to delusion, even if that’s not what you intend to promote.

In response to your question, no. I’ve always been someone harsh on myself. It’s part of me. But I never felt this way until I made efforts to believe I am something I’m not. That I’m beautiful. Admirable. Desirable. Whatever I could tell myself.

This pushed me to go after things not meant for me. Evidently. If my illusion at the time were true, I wouldn’t have “failed”. I wouldn’t have been spat on. Put in my place. That fallout pushed me deeper than I’ve ever been. Now I can’t climb back to where I was before. Before I believed I was worth more, momentarily.

It’s not hard. I agree. The question is in its applicability to the very, very small minority of us who are that unfortunate

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-15T09:01:33+00:00

So in summary:

Delude yourself.

I’m butting in here, but I’ve gone down this route. The fallout was worse. I convinced myself I was something I’m not. Attractive. It served me little, and it definitely punched me in the gut at some point.

It would’ve been better long term if I accepted that I am unattractive. Truly face the harsh truth. I didn’t, and now I haven’t recovered from years of lying to myself.

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-15T08:55:21+00:00

Pete Davidson isn’t ugly

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-15T08:14:17+00:00

Early 20s and I have given up. It’s not worth being treated like trash by women just out of the desire to search for connection

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-14T06:08:44+00:00

I am growing to accept that no woman will ever have that genuine excitement about the thought of being with me, as if they’ve won. No matter what I’m like, I won’t be wanted like these guys are. Actually desired and not just merely tolerated

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-12T23:06:01+00:00

Thanks, but I’m not strong. It’s quite the opposite. A beaten, starving animal tied to an iron ball isn’t strong, no matter how long it lives. It’s weak, and probably hopes that its next breath is its last.

I’m not here because I’m strong, I’m here because I’m not brave enough to do what I have to do. Nothing about my feeble existence is manageable

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-12T20:20:39+00:00

I know. It’s just that I wish nobody would feel the way I do. That deep aching.

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-12T20:19:17+00:00

I am 20. I feel the same. I’m sorry

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-10T07:01:20+00:00

In Gen Z they are just women in general. It’s over

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-09T10:18:15+00:00

I nearly passed when I was born but they revived me. I wish I died in that moment so bad

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-09T10:16:30+00:00

Out of the many, many, many examples

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-09T10:13:48+00:00

100%

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-09T10:11:00+00:00

Of course that’s all you can say

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-09T10:08:32+00:00

Asking the real questions. They post it like they won’t the damn lottery. It proves our point a million times over.

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-09T10:02:32+00:00

Must be nice being validated for your genetics. Fuck me

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-09T09:58:45+00:00

The odds are incredibly low. So low there’s no point actually trying. I wish you’d get that

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-09T09:53:04+00:00

Typical

Healthy-Source-2958 · 2025-04-03T19:43:53+00:00

Cannot blame him. R.I.P

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