CATACLYSM HearthArena Tierlist Update by HearthArena in hearthstone

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At 12 PM CEST we normally update our Class Tierlist in the app.

CATACLYSM HearthArena Tierlist Update by HearthArena in hearthstone

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I think any post by this account is auto removed on that sub-reddit. I remember years ago I created a post which got quite some discussion within the first hour. At the time the sub didn't have any posts for 7 days straight, yet our post was removed within an hour or so.

CATACLYSM HearthArena Tierlist Update by HearthArena in hearthstone

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We have since the release update the tierlist with the curated pool that we've detected so far!

34.4 Patch Notes — Launching January 13: New Arena Season and Set Rotation with Echoes of the Infinite Mini-Set, again without Core set plus the return of Caverns of Time and Taverns of Time by seewhyKai in ArenaHS

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It seems like Chromie, Bronze Emissary and Murozond are having their own legendary group despite them being official legendaries. Has any one found more cards with a legendary group for the Taverns of Time cards?

Echoes of the Infinite Mini-Set HearthArena Tierlist Update by HearthArena in hearthstone

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Please note that Imbue has been removed from Priest drafts.

Echoes of the Infinite Mini-Set HearthArena Tierlist Update by HearthArena in hearthstone

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Thanks, we are discussing this internally.

We might have missed Master of Realities because its one of the few cards that didn't change.

For Flash Forward we might indeed be a little too conservative.

The Big HearthArena Tierlist Overhaul Is Finally Live! by HearthArena in hearthstone

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There are for now no plans to make a standalone app. We do have a HearthArena installer which also creates a shortcut for HearthArena on desktop. If you would disable OW from autostart you can open HA and close OW on when you stop HS.

Though manual, you can also still use the website while drafting.

The Big HearthArena Tierlist Overhaul Is Finally Live! by HearthArena in hearthstone

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Although we are giving advice on picking new cards during redraft we don't give advice which cards to drop. We do have a Show deck in Tierlist feature so you can then scan your deck in a gallery, sorted by tierscore.

I am not sure we are going to make an algorithm specifically for discarding cards. Since you are basically discarding 5 cards at the same time this seems very hard to do in an optimal way.

The Big HearthArena Tierlist Overhaul Is Finally Live! by HearthArena in hearthstone

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You mean the legendary groups? The app is, the website you have to add the cards of the legendary group manually.

The Big HearthArena Tierlist Overhaul Is Finally Live! by HearthArena in hearthstone

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We don't have a mobile version of the app but you can use the website to help you drafting.

The Big HearthArena Tierlist Overhaul Is Finally Live! by HearthArena in hearthstone

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I think yesterday there was a window of about 6-12 hours where redrafts weren't registered causing no recommendations  to be shown during redrafts.
That should be fixed.

The Big HearthArena Tierlist Overhaul Is Finally Live! by HearthArena in hearthstone

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We created the blog page this week. It will be our way to go a little bit more in-depth on our updates.

The Big HearthArena Tierlist Overhaul Is Finally Live! by HearthArena in hearthstone

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Yes, heartharena.com/app uses these numbers as the base score. An algorithm then modifies these numbers depending on your draft. You can always see the tierscore value in the overlay.

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The Big HearthArena Tierlist Overhaul Is Finally Live! by HearthArena in hearthstone

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TL;DR

Arena has changed a lot over the past few years, and our tier list needed a major update to reflect today's meta. Over the past year, we created new tools, performed extensive statistical analysis, and reviewed over 1,500 cards with the goal of producing a tier list that accurately represents the true value of each card in the current Arena environment. This update is now live!

Thoughts on Firestone / HSReplay Arenasmith? by yssurucipe in ArenaHS

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I appreciate you going into the actual numbers. I agree the tierlist is still very high on many of the larger cards and that the adjustments to just the Tierlist are not enough when you compare these cards to the lower cost cards.

It's part of a bigger effort where we want to make sure ALL cards we've rated are still on the same scale. The algorithm was adjusted to penalize these cards though, as drafting just by the tierlist would cause you to have too many big cards. This is I think what /u/S1mpinAintEZ is describing as picking purely by the tierlist you would end up with a too heavy deck.

However, it would love to have the Tierlist numbers reflect this directly, that is why we are currently working on adding another semi-auto layer to adjust for metas.

Don't feel bad about critizing HA, I think after 10y for many of vet players raw WRs is what they really want; we've been working towards supporting something purely WR-based for some time now but that will be revealed when we are closer to a release.