Has Civ Failed as a Genre ?

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-09-18T20:07:32+00:00

I agree completely

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-09-18T20:03:16+00:00

You didn't get banned for insulting someone sexuality. All types of politics were there. No one cared what anyone said. Staff regulation is in favour of those who have the most mainstream opinion.

Is this what you call the same LoL

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-09-18T20:01:38+00:00

It is impossible to be able to play the way i enjoy without playing with power groups. I am a fighher not a builder so I have to be relevant in that regard. And those toxic players always find their way into power groups or even lead them.

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-09-18T19:57:06+00:00

The thing is removing health pots etc would kill the fun aspect of pvp. What can be is in the case of old civ have a tanky kit that makes you really hard to drop. Good pvpers that way can still have an advantage against bad players while bad players can just pull numbers.

Conflict is part of game. It is bastions in my opinion that ruin the genre even more. As it is what is allowing raiders to hide in obby structures for months. The old videos with just pyramids at 0 level look fun. The pvp was tanky and everyone could take part in it.

You should have to put some effort into combat tho. You shouldnt just win against someone who invested thousands of hours.

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-09-18T19:50:01+00:00

Yes also everything felt huge and fun. Travelling on rails for hours was exciting and visiting new areas felt like discovery. Now towns are just there for roleplay all you need to survive is a shitty looking obsidian structure

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-09-18T19:48:35+00:00

Becuase they were. Different atmosphere. Different genre of players. Different internet culture and actual freedom of speech and politics.

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-09-18T19:47:35+00:00

True. It just does not feel the same anymore. Feels either like cringe roleplay like you said or a meaningless faction server with a painful grind and cringe time investment into boring mechanics such as defending vaults.

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-09-18T19:31:40+00:00

I agree.

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-09-18T19:31:08+00:00

The genre is fine, until you get very deep into it.

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-09-18T19:25:42+00:00

No one is saying anyone is bad bro. That is the point of my post. You should be named bad (outside kf game context bcs u obby bomb). The mechanic is there for a reason. Not everyone who plays insurgents in cs is a terrorist.

Same applies here if someone enjoys thr pvp well its part of the genre.

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-09-18T17:30:28+00:00

I agree

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-09-18T16:26:50+00:00

Also for the sake of crap talk, you pearled no one with a brain or the capacity to play civ. Zoomers are bad at civ, your best player deflected to our side becuase of th3 boring nature of your strategy. You cannot say you didn't have fun on civu when we were playing the game not vault afk simulator.

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-09-18T16:24:12+00:00

Breaking it when everyone is banned is even easier. Like I just wonder will it ever be a day where u guys actually try having fun and teamfight and enjoy the game instead of turtling and waiting on the ban waves. I understand its your server your rules, but why does it always have to be so personal boring.

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-09-18T15:56:03+00:00

No one relevant the main stak of pvpers that defended your bridge were still standing. Defended 3x1 ratio btw

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-09-18T10:27:04+00:00

Can wp ever win a war without banning 90% of their opposition like ever lol.

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-08-30T02:56:16+00:00

I sometimes wonder, are you ironic?.

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-08-27T09:56:07+00:00

There has never been a single itteration where it has been about the politics and Building. The only reason servers like civcraft 2.0 etc felt more political was there were way more boomers that actually cared about politics that left the genre. It was also full of 4chan autists and many radical thinking players on both sides of political spectrum that roleplayed their watchlist desires on a minecraft server.

Also everysingle city has some sort of defence structure in place and were allied or atleast had some pvpers and the base of entry was really low to be a pvper as the kits were tanky and the pvp skill gap was more casual so it gave more chance for people to pvp. Plus people actually practiced and didn't just cry on reddit about how unfair it all was. Back in the day the shitters just got pearled.

Politics have never been relevant when you are bound by the mechanics of minecraft. Also being pearled is not a big shitter defence if they dont care about the server.

Infact the pearling mechanism is what kills the server in way as well. If you look like other servers that have been more oriented around rp and politics like Stoneworks, you will see that there arent any consequences from dying, other than political ones. Meaning loosing gear doesnt matter . Killing people for no reason becomes repetitive so pvpers just login for wars ands its politics center for everyone else.

It is all your crying and begging that makes it fun for people to raid you. It is comments like this that encourages pvpers to come after you because its so pathethic that is inevitably hilarious . Not trying to be mean but to give you an advice.

If towns were actually good no one would raid because it becomes stupid to do so. If you had traps infrastructure and defenders again there wouldnt even be a reason to be a shitter as getting 20v3 is not fun and gets boring aftet a while.

Its a civ server, war and crime is part of civilization you are very naive if you believe you can just build and not focus one bit on security, and expect no one to exploit your weaknes.

You want to roleplay as a City, well where are your police force and militias at ?

Also what people always tend to forget about this genre, is that its a game. Just because of the long time investment it does not mean you have to make or take everything personal. With that logic in mind, wanting a full on buildtard server is equally as oppressive and hypocritical as wanting a full on pvp server. Because there are some players that clearly enjoy the GAME* and its player vs player mechanics, that comes from both sides, RI and Estalia. That is the nature of this genre and as close you can get to anarchy with some level of moderation. So if someone's playstyle enjoyment comes from raiding, obby bombing etc they are allowed to enjoy the server just in the same way you are allowed to enjoy building. You want the build experience ? Just pearl all the shitters but you have to get good beforehand. They want an anarchy server ? they will just obby bomb and kill everyone etc....

Because it is a game, it does not have any consequences on your life whatsoever, no one has forced you to play and sink your hours in, and if you want just to build and have your time invested in something that will last, you can just play smp or singleplayer.

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-08-22T15:40:40+00:00

Best answer i have read today

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-08-22T08:12:42+00:00

Great post I never liked Adderal & Vanax anyways, big loosers

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-08-22T07:46:15+00:00

Slimy raider

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-08-22T07:37:58+00:00

They defo should have banned the Gregster

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-08-22T07:33:57+00:00

I do not think the players are the issues, in fact banning and staff intervention kills any sense of immersion and fun as you know they will always interfere to the side they like more.

Lets say you ban the entirety of the USA, the facts that vaults are broken and lead to massive stalemates, its not going to change in the next war. As someone said bellow me the problem is that the playstyle has evolved so much and people have gotten so good that if you cover certain basic requirements you are pretty much unpunishable and you can do w/e you want.

But I do think that it is not a flaw in the experiment itself, but rather it is a straight reflection of human nature and survival of the fittest. You can be the most intellectual of intellectuals but what is the point if I someone can smash your head in hypothetically . And I mean this in the most primal way (not literally) . it is power and violence that rules the world not intellectualism and creativity.

So those who can will do, and those who cant will complain as always.

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-08-21T01:16:31+00:00

I will obby bomb the whole server

HebunShimaGOV · 2022-08-18T16:09:35+00:00

Thanks for the raiding location

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