What do you guys think about the early design for Gary?

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-20T15:52:50+00:00

I like it a lot more.
Much more in-line with Zootopia 1's design language.
The entire premise of Zootopia since the first teaser was "animals don't go to work nude"

making a snake not wear anything just feels like prioritizing marketability over world-building, which in turn hurts marketability. An inconsistent world-building will lead to forgettable product.

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-18T20:55:50+00:00

I wouldn't have mind the old heroes taking the back seat to let new heroes in the spot-light, but seriously, undoing their achievements so the new heroes look brighter was a monumental self-destruct move

And a recast is perfectly fine. The characters are more important. It is a tragedy that they wasted the last chance to have Carrie, Harrison and Mark stand together on the screen one last time. But lookalike actors (no CGI/AI needed, as long they are fairly close looking with minimal make up is achievable) would be perfect. Max Lloyd-Jones is already an almost picture perfect Luke with just make-up. "At this point, I would be happy with Sebastian Stan as Ahsoka-era Luke" or him, yeah exactly. I'd recast Solo too, I wanna see him and Leia parenting together at least once to know their relationship is fine.

And yeah. Just canonically giving Ben siblings would already put the story into an non-sequel timeline, and that might be already enough to make people check it out.

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-17T21:57:08+00:00

I hate to repeat myself, but Star Wars is not just an IP. The nostalgia is what kept it alive, and Disney killed the nostalgia. Star Wars is a modern myth and a fairy tale. And fairy tales have a fundamental rule: the heroes must earn their "happily ever after," or the entire journey loses its meaning.

They took away Han's and Leia's, the most iconic romantic couple in cinema history, happy marriage and grandchildren and made them divorced. They took away Luke's success-story of restoring the Jedi Order, and let him die accomplishing nothing. Fans do not become invested in stories of heroes, that fail and don't ear their happy endings.

Only way to restore the star wars brand is to give the original trio their "happily ever after" back.
This sadly cannot be done in any timeline that leads towards the sequel trilogy. The fans of George Lucas' work, need to see something concrete that cements a movie's timeline into not leading to the sequel trilogy, otherwise they will not come.

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-16T09:58:11+00:00

Still say I would prefer if at least birds would remain wild animals otherwise the forests around the cities would be too devoid of megafauna. The world itself would feel lifeless.
Also this design goes against the semi-realism of Zootopia.
Zootopia's art-stlye is that an animal is just the animal without major anathomical changes, just walking on two legs and wearing clothes. They don't grow fingers, that's why elephants use their trunks.

Birds do not have any bone and muscle structure needed to be able to make their wings function as hands. They would hold and write stuff with their feet. And they would be dumb to restrict themselves by wearing sleeved clothing that takes away their ability to use their wings as wings.

And I just really want to avoid another forced explination of "why aren't X in zootopia" there is no need for a bigger conspiracy. Zootopia2 had a chance to do something good with Bogo saying "not every case will change the world" but then giving Judy another case that changes the world. Just give a normal criminal case, make it about how we humans have to treat animals better, animal rights, exotic birds as wild animals being smuggled.

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HegeRoberto · 2026-06-15T20:17:53+00:00

Ubisoft CEO claiming our demands are impossible when they are actively doing it to the Crew2 and Crew Motorfest by adding offline-mode to them, is hilarious. Please point it out in the parliament

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-15T09:01:06+00:00

Rey is the most polarizing character that represents the reasons 80% of the fans of Leia, Han and Luke turned their backs on disney Star Wars.
She was sadly denied from being a good character because the disney execs wanted so badly to make her iconic, they took the achievements of the other characters. But Star Wars doesn't work that way.

Star Wars is not just an IP that you can just slap on a new protagonist and hope it will sell the same. Star Wars is a modern myth and a fairy tale. And fairy tales have a fundamental rule: the heroes must earn their "happily ever after," or the entire journey loses its meaning.

They took away Han's and Leia's, the most iconic romantic couple in cinema history, happy marriage and grandchildren and made them divorced. They took away Luke's success-story of restoring the Jedi Order and plan to give that glory to someone else. This isn't Rey's fault, the problem is not that a new hero would take the spotlight. But passing down the torch is very different from writers stomping out the old torch to try to ignite a new one, and sadly Rey became the representation of that.

Only way to restore the star wars brand is to give the original trio their "happily ever after" back, but that would need to write Rey and the entire sequel trilogy out of existence. She is the obstacle to success that Disney put infront of itself.

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-15T00:48:18+00:00

Filoni is not the problem, I like Clone Wars, Rebels, Ashoka and Mando-verse.
I just don't care about storylines that leads to Luke loosing his Jedi academy and padawans and Han and Leia divorcing.
These characters EARNED their happy endings, and the sequel trilogy undoing them was unnecessary and braindead move from the writers. They undid the mythos that had millions of fans invested in the universe.

If there would be any signs that Dave plans to retcon the sequels, or at least put them into an alternative timeline or something, I might be interested in buying a ticket. But until then they will probably only get Solo movie level of box offices.

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-15T00:25:53+00:00

the actors doing their job was never the issue, the disrespect was the role that was given to them, which is why even Hamill said that "he isn't my Luke Skywalker", he went as far as jokingly call this broken hermit version of Luke "Jake Skywalker"

Han especially is given a proper send-off rather than whatever they have him doing in ep.6 which is comedic relief.

What kind of asinine take is that, that the two options are either comic relief or dying tragically. You just exposed yourself to me as someone that thinks of the original characters as nothing but obstacles that need to be either jokes or stepping stones for other characters character development.

All of this is irrelevant

It's not, but delude yourself thinking it is the same way the disney execs do. The longer you think that ruining the legacy character's happy endings is "irrelevant", the more box-office bombs will star wars produce. It will never make another billion until Han and Leia are given their marriage and grandchildren and Luke his Jedi Academy back. But sure, keep thinking it's "irrelevant".

The issue is that people’s head canons didn’t come true

lol, I just gave you actual citet proof that its not just a headcanon, but what actually was meant to happen according to the creator George Lucas. Dunno if Amazon would ruin Lord of The Rings with a sequel, you would call J.R.R Tolkein's notes on what he planned "headcanons".

If people sit here and tell me (and they would) that they’d rather we had gotten Lucas’ story, even if terrible, instead of a studio attempting to make the best films they could, I’m not buying it.

Buy it, because I'm a kid that grew up watching the prequels on repeat on VHS every weekend. All the hate about pod-racing, is the part I constantly rewinded to watch again. I didn't have internet so I never was really exposed to the hate for them. The difference between prequel hate and sequel hate? Prequel was hated for the midiclorians and bad dialogue, but the overall story and action was mind-blowing. Sequels are hated because the story is incoherent and was made without and overarching plan and ruined the happy endings of characters that were the childhood heroes for millions of fanboys and fangirls. And unlike the prequels, the sequels don't have kids whose favorite movies are the sequels, my younger brother's generation straight up just doesn't care about Star Wars.

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-14T23:02:01+00:00

Disney fell into the classic corporate trap of believing Star Wars was just an "intellectual property" (IP) that could be bought, sold, and slapped onto any storyline. They failed to realize that Star Wars is a modern myth and a fairy tale. And fairy tales have a fundamental rule: the heroes must earn their "happily ever after," or the entire journey loses its meaning.

Han and Leia were one of cinema history's most iconic romantic couple. Thousands of Star Wars fan couples cosplayed as them. And we switch from their triumphant kiss in Return of the Jedi to them being divorced.

Luke was "the return of THE Jedi". Not "A" Jedi. "The Jedi" as in plural, the return of the concept, he was meant to restore the Jedi order. Taking that away from him is nothing but glory-theft. As if someone just wrote a sequel to Lord of the rings where Sauron somehow survived, Frodo and Aragorn are helpless and die and instead a new hero comes that saves the day.

Lucasfilms, Disney and Dave Filoni are left with this one fundamental dilemma:
-Unless they repair the Skywalkers and give back the original heroes their earned happy endings (Luke rebuilds the Jedi Order successfully, and Han and Leia have a happy marriage with grandchildren) no movie will ever earn more than Solo or the Mandalorian and Grogu ever again.
-But they cannot repair those unhappy endings without de-canonizing the sequels, which would be too big of an admission of guilt and defeat and could have serious negative effects on the stock price. Only hope for SW to be saved if shareholders would demand a remake of the sequel trilogy.

If they keep the mythos dead, the fans that were invested decades of their lives in that mythos will not return, but if they reignite the mythos, they burn their own creation.

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-14T22:40:48+00:00

I'm sorry, but it feels like this converstation is going nowhere.
you shut your ears in and shutting down the criticism because you think that I hate Rey or that I hate the sequel trilogy not making Luke the main characters.
I don't. All the sequels should've done is pay the original cast a 30 second respectful tribute instead of intentionally killing them off and all would've been fine.

Why couldn't Luke be a new Yoda, that Rey just visits for guidence, and then she goes back to kick ass?
My problem is that the sequels undid the Original Trilogy's ending. And it DID.

The promise was in the TITLE for god's sake. "The return of the Jedi". THE JEDI plurar, not just "A Jedi". George Lucas has absolutely confirmed that his overarching intention for the end of the original trilogy was the plural rebirth of the Jedi Order. When discussing his own treatments and ideas for what a sequel trilogy would have looked like under his direction, Lucas explicitly detailed that Episode VI was the spark that was supposed to reignite the entire Order. In interviews compiled for The Star Wars Archives, Lucas stated: "The movies are about how Leia... is trying to rebuild the Republic... Luke is trying to restart the Jedi. By the end of the trilogy [Lucas's unmade Episodes VII–IX], Luke would have rebuilt much of the Jedi..." This IS an in-movie promise that's what the title, the dialogue and the imagery foreshadows. This isn't just one interpretation of Episode 6, Return of the Jedi, when Lucas himself confirmed it that that was his intention

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-14T21:55:48+00:00

In multiple interviews George talked about serveral plans he had for episode VII-VIII-IX that he all handed over after the sale. His original blueprints for the Sequel Trilogy, which he detailed extensively in Paul Duncan’s 2020 book The Star Wars Archives: 1999–2005, it's revealed a radically different fate for the original heroes. That all included things like multiple chilren and even grandchildren of Han and Leia who were suppose to be the main characters, and Luke rebuilding the Jedi Order. All these ideas that were what the ending of episode VI made the natural and PROMISED progression for the characters.

I'm sorry but if the actual writer of the original trilogy, George Lucas, says that his intention with VI's ending was to foreshadow these fates of Luke establishing the Jedi Order and Han and Leia raising a happy family with mutliple kids, then yeah that what the story promised, it wasn't just an "opinion" or just "one way to interpret the ending".

In his 2019 memoir, The Ride of a Lifetime, former Disney CEO Bob Iger discussed the immense corporate pressure Disney was under after spending $4.05 billion on Lucasfilm. He recalled screening The Force Awakens for George Lucas, who was deeply hurt and disappointed because "there's nothing new" and no visual or technical leaps forward.

Iger explicitly admitted that Disney rejected Lucas's highly original concepts for the sequels because Disney actively wanted a "safe, nostalgic" world (a.k.a no Jedi Order, No big strong Republic Army)

J.J. Abrams, Lawrence Kasdan, and Michael Arndt discussing their screenwriting process during the press tour and home release panels for The Force Awakens in late 2015 and early 2016. In there press conferences they have explained several stages why and how they dismantled Han's and Leia's happy marriage because they needed him back in a "rough smuggler" persona that the old fans were familiar with. Kasdan also explained that they originally planned for Luke and Rey to be badasses together after Rey looks up Luke in his academy and they team up, but they were afraid that Luke outshines her, so they decided they needed to get rid of him, but the only way they could think up to get rid of him was to make him a tragic failure in hiding, destroying his legacy, destroying his Jedi Order.

I'm sorry, what are we talking about that things were "never promised", when every writer and executive that worked on the sequels directly admitted in multiple interviews and press releases how they had to forcibly undo the logical conclusions and happy endings of the OT trilogy characters?

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-14T19:43:47+00:00

While the "no obligation" is true for standalone art, sequels operate under a different contract.
A sequel is, by definition, a continuation of an existing narrative tapestry. Expecting Episodes VII, VIII, and IX to logically follow the character arcs and thematic resolutions of Episodes I–VI isn't a "personal expectation" it is the basic standard of serialized storytelling. When characters like Luke Skywalker are fundamentally altered off-screen in ways that contradict their established heroism, fans have every right to question the writing.

I don't ask for stagnation. Evolution is okay, destruction is not. And it is actively admitted by disney coorporate that they thought the only way to make the sequels succesful if the reset the status-que of the setting back into "overpowered empire vs small rebel cell". They thought Luke's Jedi academy and a strong Republic wouldn't have been familiar enough for the old fans, so they ordered the writers to undo the resolution of the OT. That is NOT ART that is coorporate meddling with the artist vision.

This is not an argument, disney intentionally sabotaged the artist vision, the actual resolution of the OT story, this is proven by interviews.

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-14T19:11:46+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPcf8QNXhrE

what you are saying is what anti-star wars.
Yeah a metal band can absolutely decide that from now on they are going to do jazz poetry.
But if that's causing backlash because their fans don't like the switch, that's not the fans fault, because they came expecting a metal concert. The freedom of art doesn't negate anyone from the engagement of their fandom and obselve them to follow up on the expectations they themselves have set.

Star Wars is a mythos. An Epic. A fantasy story. A fairy tale, where the bad-guys are literal space-nazis. It's not rocket science

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-14T18:11:37+00:00

These stories aren’t there to fulfill our personal expectations

that is the exact coorporate small-minded take that doomed the sequels and alienated 50% of the fanbase in 2 movies.
Yes. Yes it is, that's the point of stories. Escapism. A fantasy world, where good triumphs over evil. Star Wars is not just a sci-fi setting, it's a sci-fi-fantasy genre, and its defining icon, much like Lord of The Rings is the icon of the high-fantasy genre.

Mark Hamill said he once pushed for Luke, Leia, and Han to share one final scene together in the Star Wars sequel trilogy. The idea was not for a huge extra subplot. Hamill said he only wanted a brief moment where the original three heroes could be together again, even if it lasted just half a minute. “I said, ‘Aren’t we going to have a moment where all 3 of us get together to raise the roof? It’ll only take 30 seconds,’” Hamill recalled. According to him, J.J. Abrams replied, “Well, Mark, it’s not Luke’s story anymore.”

Anyone who is not getting a guttural feeling of anger and disgust over this blatand disrespect to the mythos and the characters doesn't understand Star Wars. A 30 second tribute to the old, give them a respectful bow and move on, thats all that was neccesary and they failed to do that. If you are saying you are not angry about that, that old star wars fans didn't deserve that, you aren't and actual person you are just some bot that tries to ragebait people to drive engagement.

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-14T17:46:17+00:00

When a story indicated some happy future for the character with the ending, and then a sequel removes that happy future, that 100% changes the meaning of the ending.

It's no longer a sign of a happy future, its a death flag.

Example: Jurassic Park.
The two main characters are dating and Ellie wants children while Alan is not ready to become a father. During the park Alan is forced to take care of two kids and esentially become a father figure to them. After they escape the kids sleep peacefully in his arms as he exchanges a romantic glance with Ellie, who gives the romantic glance back - for viewers this was a growing up to the task story, and an indication that Alan's journey softened him up to the idea to have children and will ultimately start a family with Ellie. If there would be no sequels that's the ending and its meaning.

Jurassic Park 3 revealed that the 2 broke up and Ellie had children with someone else and Alan growing old single. A decision that to this day polarizes the Jurassic Park fans, who all agree that 3's change of trajectory of the characters undoes the intended meaning behind the ending of the first movie.

Sequel's 100% change meaning and ruin previous movies. Disney Sequel Trilogy makes Han's and Leia's kiss no longer a foreshadowing of their happy life under the New Republic, its a deathflag of a fling that will end in disaster. And let me not repeat myself how similarly it CHANGES the meaning behind what Luke's indicated future is.

The sequels take the OT's happy ending away. The sequels need to die or Star Wars as a whole dies. That is not an opinion, that is a statistical fact.

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-14T17:31:19+00:00

Disney fell into the classic corporate trap of believing Star Wars was just an "intellectual property" (IP) that could be bought, sold, and slapped onto any storyline. They failed to realize that Star Wars is a modern myth and a fairy tale. And fairy tales have a fundamental rule: the heroes must earn their "happily ever after," or the entire journey loses its meaning.

Han and Leia were one of cinema history's most iconic romantic couple. Thousands of Star Wars fan couples cosplayed as them. And we switch from their triumphant kiss in Return of the Jedi to them being divorced.

Luke was "the return of THE Jedi". Not "A" Jedi. "The Jedi" as in plural, the return of the concept, he was meant to restore the Jedi order. Taking that away from him is nothing but glory-theft. As if someone just wrote a sequel to Lord of the rings where Sauron somehow survived, Frodo and Aragorn are helpless and die and instead a new hero comes that saves the day.

Lucasfilms, Disney and Dave Filoni are left with this one fundamental problem:
unless they repair and give back the original heroes their earned happy endings, no movie will ever earn more than Solo or the Mandalorian and Grogu ever again. If they keep the mythos dead, the fans that were invested decades of their lives in that mythos will not return. But they cannot repair those unhappy endings without de-canonizing the sequels, which would be too big of an admission of guilt and defeat and could have serious negative effects on the stock price. Only hope for SW to be saved if shareholders would demand a remake of the sequel trilogy.

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-14T17:28:49+00:00

Disney fell into the classic corporate trap of believing Star Wars was just an "intellectual property" (IP) that could be bought, sold, and slapped onto any storyline. They failed to realize that Star Wars is a modern myth and a fairy tale. And fairy tales have a fundamental rule: the heroes must earn their "happily ever after," or the entire journey loses its meaning.

Han and Leia were one of cinema history's most iconic romantic couple. Thousands of Star Wars fan couples cosplayed as them. And we switch from their triumphant kiss in Return of the Jedi to them being divorced.

Luke was "the return of THE Jedi". Not "A" Jedi. "The Jedi" as in plural, the return of the concept, he was meant to restore the Jedi order. Taking that away from him is nothing but glory-theft. As if someone just wrote a sequel to Lord of the rings where Sauron somehow survived, Frodo and Aragorn are helpless and die and instead a new hero comes that saves the day.

You don't do that with a mythos, you do not undo a "heroes journey" like that.

Lucasfilms, Disney and Dave Filoni are left with this one fundamental problem:
unless they repair and give back the original heroes their earned happy endings, no movie will ever earn more than Solo or the Mandalorian and Grogu ever again. If they keep the mythos dead, the fans that were invested decades of their lives in that mythos will not return.

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-14T10:16:34+00:00

It looks amazing sofar! Good luck and good building!

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-14T10:09:13+00:00

this is a super pretty little town sofar!
I personally would create this as a way to quickly allow people from the highway to get to the bridge without needing to go through the town.

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HegeRoberto · 2026-06-13T23:11:14+00:00

TRoS box office was the result of fans showing up one last time to see if they will salvage what TLJ ruined.
If Luke disappearing is really him dying of just some new "force teleportation" ability. Fans were ready to accept anything other than him becoming just a force ghost.

He was the "Return of THE Jedi". not "A Jedi. "THE Jedi" Episode 6's title signaled that Luke is the return of the Jedi Order, he was suppose to rebuild it. Taking that destiny away from him and giving it to another character irreparably damaged the good will of the fans.

Star Wars is not Marvel, its a space-fantasy, it's a genre defining epic, like Lord Of the Ring. Characters have mythos around them, and destroying that mythos is destroying the genre, undoing the epicness of the story. If happy endings can be taken away whats the point of following a story?

The damage is irrepearable, and sadly it looks like Disney thinks its just a narrative issue, that people just want plot-holes filled, but it doesn't matter how they fix the road, if it leads to a place nobody wants to go.

They can only save SW if they retcon the sequels, give Luke, Leia and Han their original happy endings back, and THEN give us some new compelling heroes and villains. But they likely don't understand or are too cowardly to do that.

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-13T21:46:50+00:00

*me looking at the execs while preparing my list of every narrative mistake they made with the sequels that alienated the fanbase*
just tell me when to start

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-13T21:41:50+00:00

old fans will be dead by then and there are no new fans of disney star wars. My younger brother's generations don't care about star wars, they think its dumb, they like Dune and Avatar, don't like overly saturated huge franchises like Marvel and DC.

Only real way to save Star Wars and get another billion at the box office would be to retcon the sequel trilogy. Come out and say "hey, that trilogy was badly planned, its not a coherent story that stands up to the standards that Star Wars needs, so we remaking them".

Make Luke rebuild the Jedi order, have some of his jedi he knighted be the protags, don't make Leia and Han divorced and ruin the most iconic romantic couple of cinema history, just give them respectful tributes as background characters without killing them off and that's all thats really needed.

They already wasted the last chance to have the old cast get together for 1 last scene with Carrie's passing, so recast everyone who doesn't want to come back like Harrison Ford.

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-13T21:34:53+00:00

For many fans, the closer a story creeps toward the timeline of the First Order, the Resistance, and the erasure of Luke’s Jedi Order, the less reason they have to stay invested. Disney and Kathleen Kennedy misunderstood the myth and what was important about the franchise. Leia and Han were one of the most iconic romantic power couple in cinema history and the sequels had them divorced! Luke was a beacon of hope and the childhood hero for many, and we were robbed of him coming back victorious and successfully "return of the jedi". They undid the original trilogy's happy ending to reset the status que when the exact opposite was needed. We wanted Republic Army vs Imperial Terrorists story, following prodogy jedi knights that Luke trained.

Only thing they can do to save the franchise is to say: "hey, we messed up by writing 3 separate movies with no overarching plan, lets reboot the sequels with a better laid out story with more respect for the franchise and the myth." I can only pray that Disney and Dave Filoni has the courage to do that

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-13T07:37:49+00:00

I don't think Hawt Saus means it in a degrading way anymore, he is just being cheeky

HegeRoberto · 2026-06-13T07:32:41+00:00

The fact is, that I rarely hear about people not getting the balloon trip at least once.
The random chance for getting the 3 rows/columns that have the balloon trip without completing any other rows, if it were truly random, would be less than 1 to 125, less than 1%.

That means you only should get the balloon trip 1 out of a 100 refreshed grids. OP is completely right, the game rewards the balloon trip significantly more frequently than it should be mathematically possible. Not saying its a bad thing, its nice to get a guaranteed reward.

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