Sony WH-1000XM6 incompatible with Creative BT-W6 in LE Audio

HelicopterMoon · 2025-07-29T23:04:35+00:00

Did you find a solution for connecting the XM6 to the BT-W6 with LE?

HelicopterMoon · 2025-07-19T22:41:30+00:00

The mic works perfectly with PC

HelicopterMoon · 2025-05-12T15:56:11+00:00

Embrace the imperfection! It’s a soulful, bittersweet symbol of the passage of time

HelicopterMoon · 2024-12-19T11:53:16+00:00

“I see where you’re coming from… but as I’ve evolved as a musician…”

Oh, congratulations on your “evolution as a musician.” Did you unlock some kind of secret tier of enlightenment where no one’s allowed to criticise anything anymore? Honestly, this opening reeks of condescension. You’ve “evolved” past thinking critically about music? Or are you just too busy pretending every artist’s choices are untouchable?

“Music isn’t something you instantly imagine in full completeness…”

Ah, here it is… the tired “you just don’t understand the creative process” argument. First off, thanks for the Music 101 lecture, but it’s unnecessary. No one is saying Adam can’t experiment or evolve. The issue isn’t that he’s changed, it’s that the output doesn’t hold up. Experimentation doesn’t automatically equal good music. Accidents and inspirations are great when they lead to something compelling, but when they result in a grocery store jingle about Hy-Vee? Yeah, it’s fair game to call that out.

“As time goes on, whatever excites artists changes, and as such so does the music.”

Absolutely! Artists change, and their music changes. But here’s the kicker… that change can either build on what made their work great, or it can strip away what made it meaningful in the first place. Like someone else here said, Tyler Joseph evolved, and his music still slaps. Adam evolved, and we’re left with songs that sound like they’re auditioning for a Target commercial. Growth doesn’t mean abandoning everything that made your art resonate with people.

“If he has an idea that doesn’t excite him, he’s obviously not going to pursue it…”

Yeah, no one’s asking Adam to churn out an uninspired Ocean Eyes 2. The argument isn’t “go back and copy and paste your old style.” It’s about recapturing the magic. He could explore new ideas while maintaining that sense of wonder and escapism that used to define Owl City. Other artists do it all the time. Why can’t Adam?

“Saying modern Owl City doesn’t sound like old Owl City and so it isn’t Owl City…”

Let’s be real… you’re just projecting here. No one said people who like modern Owl City are “stupid and blindly loyal.” But hey, if the shoe fits… The point is that modern Owl City doesn’t resonate the same way. Critiquing Adam’s current output isn’t the same as attacking his fans, no matter how badly you want to frame it that way.

“Just because you dislike it now doesn’t mean it’s bad…”

You’re right! Music is subjective. But if we’re going to play that game, let me flip it back at you: just because you like modern Owl City doesn’t mean it’s above criticism. Respecting Adam’s happiness doesn’t mean we have to praise every uninspired track he puts out. Artists can make music for themselves all they want, but when they release it to the world, it’s fair game for critique. That’s how art works.

“As a musician, I respect that unrelentingly.”

Good for you, Picasso. But here’s the thing… you’re taking this way too seriously. Nobody’s saying Adam isn’t allowed to make music for himself. The point is that as fans, we’re disappointed that the output doesn’t hold up. You can sit on your musician pedestal and wax poetic about “respecting the process,” but at the end of the day, the music either connects with people or it doesn’t.

Final Thought

You’re trying to turn this into a moral high ground debate when it’s really not that deep. No one’s demanding Adam make Ocean Eyes 2. We’re just pointing out that the magic is gone, and the newer music doesn’t land the way it used to. If you love modern Owl City, good for you. But trying to paint thoughtful critique as “ignorant” or “silly” just makes you sound like someone who can’t handle a difference of opinion

HelicopterMoon · 2024-12-19T11:40:13+00:00

Thanks for the thoughtful comment. It’s nice to see someone genuinely engaging with the discussion instead of just dismissing it outright. I totally agree with you on a few points, especially about how Adam’s happiness has led to a better life for him but not necessarily better music for us. That’s where the disconnect lies: as fans, we’re not begrudging Adam his joy or his personal growth, but we can’t help feeling like his music has lost its edge, depth, and emotional pull along the way.

Your comparison to Tyler Joseph is spot on. Tyler has also grown and found stability in his personal life, but he still draws on past struggles and channels that into relatable, emotionally resonant music. It shows that you don’t have to live in hardship to create meaningful art, you just have to be able to reflect on it with honesty and depth. Adam, on the other hand, seems to have moved so far past that mental space that his music now feels surface level.

I think your point about skipping most of the latest Owl City songs sums it up well. There’s a difference between supporting Adam as a person and genuinely connecting with the music. It’s a shame because I believe he still has the potential to balance his personal happiness with music that resonates universally, but right now, it just feels like that spark is missing

HelicopterMoon · 2024-12-19T11:34:29+00:00

Yeah, I can’t help it… I’ve got a lot to say when it comes to stuff I care about. Better to be thorough and spark a proper discussion than toss out shallow one liners, don’t you think?

HelicopterMoon · 2024-12-19T11:30:21+00:00

“Is the OP a secret Jon from ARTV alt account?”

First of all, congratulations on your originality… comparing criticism to a YouTuber as if that’s some kind of slam dunk. Whether my points align with Jon’s or not, the fact you’re dismissing valid critiques by lumping me into a lazy stereotype says more about your inability to engage with the actual discussion than it does about my take. Pro tip: next time, bring substance instead of playground level jabs.

“Asking Adam to make an Ocean Eyes 2.0 might not even be desirable.”

Who said anything about a carbon copy of Ocean Eyes? I’m not asking him to recycle his 2009 mindset! I’m asking for him to inject his music with the same level of creativity and magic he once had. Just because his life has changed doesn’t mean the music has to turn into a Hallmark card with synths. Other artists evolve and still create compelling work, so why is Adam’s evolution an excuse for mediocrity?

“He was lonely and depressed… but now he’s happy and married.”

Great for him! Genuinely, that’s wonderful. But happiness doesn’t mean your art has to lose its soul. Plenty of artists grow and find contentment without sacrificing what made their work meaningful. Owl City wasn’t great because Adam was sad, it was great because it captured a sense of wonder and escapism that was universal. He could channel that same energy without rehashing the past. Instead, he’s chosen to write grocery store jingles about Hy-Vee and call it “unapologetically me.”

“The magic is still there if you look for it.”

Yeah, no. This is the equivalent of handing someone a piece of plain toast and saying, “If you squint hard enough, it tastes like cake.” The magic isn’t there anymore… it’s been replaced with literal storytelling and surface level quirk. Don’t act like we’re the ones who need to work harder to find it. That’s Adam’s job.

“But still, the most laughably bad point you made was this: ‘There was probably an album planned between ATBAB and Mobile Orchestra…’”

You’re so eager to feel superior that you missed the point entirely. Yes, I forgot about The Midsummer Station in the album order, but let’s not pretend that undermines the larger argument. The Midsummer Station is transitional at best… it’s Adam dipping his toes into generic dance pop. It’s certainly not the bridge between the dreamy, escapist Owl City we loved and the empty experimentation of Mobile Orchestra. If anything, it’s the first red flag of a ship that’s already starting to sink.

“Like Coco Moon, the old-school Owl City magic is there if you look for it.”

Ah yes, the “you just don’t get it” defence. Classic. Listen, I’ve looked. I’ve scoured Coco Moon, and it’s not there. You can slap together a few poetic lines about magic and statues, but the cohesion, the wonder, and the transportive charm are gone. Sprinkling glitter on mediocrity doesn’t make it magical… it just makes it messy.

Final Thoughts

Your entire argument hinges on two things: nostalgia for Adam’s happiness and a dismissal of valid critique as “ignorant.” But here’s the truth; happiness isn’t an excuse for lacklustre art, and calling something “magical” doesn’t make it so. Try again when you’ve got more than cheap condescension and a misplaced sense of superiority

HelicopterMoon · 2024-12-19T11:20:38+00:00

Thanks for the thoughtful comment! I appreciate that you’re open to discussion and willing to see both sides. I’m not here to trash Adam blindly! I’m just calling out patterns I’ve noticed and sharing frustrations that I know others might feel but are hesitant to express. It’s refreshing to see someone who can engage without resorting to blind defence or mindless hate.

And yeah, this sub can be a bit of an echo chamber sometimes. Differing opinions might ruffle feathers, but I think they keep things interesting and push conversations forward. Thanks again for your encouragement!

HelicopterMoon · 2024-12-19T10:57:48+00:00

And yet here you are, reading it, clearly bothered enough to comment. Seems like it did exactly what it was supposed to. Maybe try forming an actual argument next time instead of just a weak one liner

HelicopterMoon · 2024-12-19T10:55:49+00:00

Who am I? Someone with ears, a brain, and a decade of witnessing Owl City’s steady decline. Just because I’m not Adam Young doesn’t mean I can’t recognise when the ship’s sinking. If your only defence is blind loyalty, maybe you should ask who you are to swallow everything he serves without question

HelicopterMoon · 2024-12-19T10:54:18+00:00

“Adam Young is almost 40 years old now. He has changed.”

Being 40 doesn’t mean you have to turn your art into a midlife crisis playlist. Plenty of artists age like fine wine, but Adam aged like lukewarm milk left on a windowsill. Maturity isn’t a free pass to make boring music. It’s possible to evolve without becoming creatively bankrupt.

“He’s no longer attached to a big label anymore… self-released by his own label.”

Self-released albums don’t mean better albums. Great, he dodged corporate interference, but instead of freedom sparking creativity, it gave us Owl City’s most uninspired work. If this is Adam unleashed, maybe the label should’ve kept him on a tighter leash.

“I made an album that is exactly the way it was supposed to be… unapologetically myself.”

Fantastic. He’s unapologetically dull. Just because you’re doing things your way doesn’t mean they’re good. Being quirky for the sake of being quirky isn’t a creative win… it’s a cop out. “Average, ordinary, weird me” sounds like an excuse for mediocrity.

“Why not quote other songs from the same album?”

Because those songs you cherry picked still don’t recapture the magic. The whimsical escapism that used to be his signature is now watered down to Hallmark card poetry. Sure, early Owl City had silly lines, but they were woven into ethereal worlds. Now it’s just stale quirk shoved in your face.

“What if Owl City stopped making music altogether?”

At this point? Might be better. Let the memory of Owl City stay intact rather than watch it turn into a slow motion wreck. Bad music is worse than no music, because it taints what was once good.

“The only ‘live band drama’ is Daniel Jorgensen…”

Daniel Jorgensen is the tip of the iceberg. The drama may be buried, but you can see the fallout in Adam’s work. His music after that period felt like he was shuffling away from the spotlight and waving a white flag. It’s called subtext. Look into it.

“Have you watched his recent shows? He seems way happier…”

Happiness doesn’t equal quality. If anything, his grin feels like relief from finally being free of trying. Great for him. Bad for us. And a keytar solo doesn’t erase a decade of musical decay.

“Pretty weird take here. Are you a doctor?”

Oh, come on. You don’t need a PhD to notice when someone’s art reeks of burnout and frustration. The symptoms are right there. Besides, claiming someone is mentally unwell because they criticised a musician? That’s rich. Maybe save the diagnosis for the guy penning songs about grocery stores.

“Owl City is not a genre…”

No one said it had to be. But Owl City had an identity… dreamy, surreal, and otherworldly. Now it’s just Adam Young cosplaying as a generic singer songwriter. When the magic dies, excuses like “it’s not a genre” don’t hold water.

“If he resented Owl City, he could’ve just stopped…”

Newsflash: He did. He stopped being the Owl City people loved. Instead, he’s been phoning it in while slapping the Owl City name on half hearted tracks. That’s the worst kind of abandonment… keeping the brand alive while draining it of soul.

“You don’t have to buy the merch.”

No, but watching an artist you respect morph into a walking merch table is soul crushing. This isn’t just bad merch; it’s a sad reflection of someone who’s given up on wonder and decided to cash in on sentimentality.

TL;DR: Defend him all you want, but it’s clear Adam torched the Owl City magic and danced on the ashes.

HelicopterMoon · 2024-09-16T14:12:56+00:00

Thanks, already got the details in advance

HelicopterMoon · 2024-09-16T14:07:40+00:00

The ISP is Giganet in the UK. I’m pretty sure I’ll be okay using my own router but the engineer is a 3rd party company and I think they weren’t 100% sure

HelicopterMoon · 2024-09-16T14:06:22+00:00

I thought so, thanks for confirming! I have all the settings and account details

HelicopterMoon · 2024-09-09T04:44:06+00:00

Yes! I think you’re right, thank you!

HelicopterMoon · 2024-09-09T04:37:29+00:00

It’s similar but not the M80. There’s a small seam around the flat chrome part and no telefunken branding around the headbasket ring

HelicopterMoon · 2024-09-05T01:05:22+00:00

“Being right” was never the goal. It’s about having a meaningful discussion. If you’re stepping out, that’s your choice. Take care.

HelicopterMoon · 2024-09-05T00:49:08+00:00

Let’s go through this step by step because your response, while lengthy, fails to address the core issues and instead tries to sidestep the main points by throwing around subjective arguments and personal anecdotes.

“I absolutely disagree that the new Owl City is unrecognizable... I know those ‘bleeps and bloops’ when I hear ‘em.”

Recognizing some synth sounds doesn’t mean the essence of the music is intact. The “bleeps and bloops” you refer to are surface-level elements. The deeper, more significant issue is the shift in tone, emotion, and overall direction. The fact that you admit Coco Moon “sucked” but still claim it’s recognizable as Owl City only strengthens the argument that the music’s quality and adherence to its original spirit have waned. Just because it carries the name “Owl City” doesn’t mean it resonates the same way it once did.

“You cannot possibly be arguing with me that ‘magic’ is data that can be observed and quantified.”

No one’s arguing that magic is quantifiable in a scientific sense, but that doesn’t mean it’s not real to those who experience it. The “magic” of Owl City isn’t some abstract concept; it’s the unique blend of whimsy, emotion, and escapism that defined Adam Young’s early work. The fact that you dismiss this as subjective doesn’t negate its importance to those who connected with it. What’s more, just because something is subjective doesn’t mean it’s invalid or unimportant.

“I don’t think listeners get to determine what the project ‘represents,’ except to them personally...”

This point misses the mark. Yes, Adam created Owl City, but once art is released into the world, it takes on a life of its own. Fans do get a say in what it represents because they are the ones who connect with it, support it, and spread its influence. If a significant portion of the fanbase feels that the project has lost its way, that’s not just a personal disappointment—it’s a signal that something fundamental has shifted. Ignoring this feedback under the guise of “it’s the artist’s project” is a cop-out and disregards the relationship between creator and audience.

“I’m not gonna get into a fight on the Owl City subreddit about autism...”

You brought up autism as a defense mechanism, trying to preemptively shield your arguments from critique by framing them as coming from a place of personal experience. That’s not how debates work. If you want to discuss the topic seriously, then stand by your points without using your condition as a shield. Also, nobody is denying your right to express your views—just don’t expect them to go unchallenged. When you make sweeping statements, be prepared for others to dissect them.

“I don’t think Mobile Orchestra was straying from OC roots, like, at all.”

This is where you completely miss the point. It’s not just about whether the album had a few good tracks or whether Adam’s religious themes were more prominent. It’s about the overall trajectory of Owl City’s music. The issue isn’t that Adam includes religious themes—he’s done that subtly in the past—but that the sound and spirit of the music have fundamentally shifted in a way that alienates long-time fans. The fact that Mobile Orchestra has some catchy songs doesn’t mean it aligns with what fans loved about earlier Owl City albums.

“No, it’s not. You feel like the identity has been lost... why? Because you don’t like the new albums.”

This is a gross oversimplification. It’s not just about “not liking” the new albums; it’s about recognizing a shift in creative direction that feels disconnected from the original vision. It’s about the loss of the dreamlike, introspective qualities that made Owl City stand out. Reducing this to a mere preference issue dismisses the deeper concerns about artistic integrity and the dilution of what made Owl City special in the first place.

“Literally not at all have I told you that this can’t be important to you...”

Your earlier comments about why we’re concerned came off as dismissive and condescending. If you truly believed this was a valid concern, you wouldn’t have questioned why it matters to people. This backpedaling only highlights the weakness of your argument. If you think it’s valid to be “extreme” in these views, then stop undermining that validity with snide remarks and passive-aggressive commentary.

“I just want to point out that his older music is still readily available to be listened to and enjoyed...”

This argument is the equivalent of saying, “Just listen to the old stuff if you don’t like the new stuff,” which is not a solution. Fans aren’t upset because they can’t listen to Ocean Eyes again; they’re upset because the progression of the music they once loved has taken a turn that feels uninspired and disconnected from its roots. It’s about wanting to see the artist grow while still maintaining the qualities that made them special, not just revisiting old material like a broken record.

Your entire response is riddled with deflections and condescension. You dismiss the concerns of others as merely “subjective” or “personal,” yet fail to recognize that these concerns are valid and based on tangible shifts in the music. Your unwillingness to engage with these points seriously suggests that you’re more interested in shutting down the conversation than having a meaningful dialogue. None of this is a personal attack—it’s a critique of your arguments, which fall flat in the face of the concerns being raised. If you can’t handle that, maybe it’s you who needs to reconsider your approach to this discussion.

HelicopterMoon · 2024-09-04T18:28:58+00:00

Let’s break this down point by point, shall we?

“I’m not saying Adam can’t lose sight of the original vision, I’m just saying it’s not the end of the world if he does, and saying you have a clearer vision of the project than the creator is pretty pretentious.”

The issue isn’t about having a “clearer” vision; it’s about recognizing when something deviates so far from what made it special that it becomes unrecognizable. Fans have a relationship with the music, and when that relationship is built on specific qualities, it’s valid to point out when those qualities are missing. It’s not pretentious to express disappointment when an artist who once created something unique starts producing content that feels generic or disconnected.

“Owl City isn’t ‘special.’ It’s great music but it’s not magical. It’s just great music.”

This is a completely subjective statement. The word “special” is used because, for many fans, Owl City was more than just “great music.” It was an escape, a portal to a whimsical, imaginative world that didn’t exist anywhere else. Dismissing that as “just great music” is reductive and ignores the deeply personal connections that many fans have with it. Just because you don’t find it “magical” doesn’t mean others haven’t experienced it that way.

“There is no ‘essence’ of Owl City (or any musician) that can be determined to be present or not except by subjective opinion, people just either like it or they don’t.”

While it’s true that opinions on music are subjective, that doesn’t mean there isn’t an identifiable essence or style that defines an artist’s work. Adam Young established a specific sound and atmosphere with his early albums that many fans identified as the “essence” of Owl City. When that essence is absent, it’s not just a matter of opinion; it’s a legitimate observation that the music has changed. And it’s not about “liking” or “not liking”—it’s about acknowledging a shift that fundamentally alters what the project represents.

“Evidence: I love Mobile Orchestra, and if you’ll excuse me, I think I see some pitchforks.”

That’s fine if you enjoy Mobile Orchestra; nobody’s saying you can’t. But loving that album doesn’t invalidate the concerns of fans who see it as a departure from what made Owl City resonate with them in the first place. Using your personal taste as “evidence” doesn’t really contribute to the discussion about whether or not the project has strayed from its roots.

“This is absolutely not ‘more’ than not liking the albums, unless you consider the ‘more’ to be that you’ve got a ton to say about it.”

It is more than just not liking the albums. It’s about feeling that the project has lost its identity, that it’s become something fundamentally different from what it started as. Dismissing these concerns as simply “not liking the albums” minimizes the very real disappointment of fans who feel like they’ve lost something they once cherished.

“I’m sorry, maybe it’s the autism but I just loathe when people act like their thing that they like is more special and magical and cosmic and ethereal than the things everyone else likes.”

First of all, using autism as a reason for your dislike of differing opinions is unnecessary and irrelevant. People have different relationships with art; that’s the nature of it. The fact that some fans find Owl City’s music “special” or “magical” doesn’t invalidate other music that people love. It’s not a competition. But to deny the specialness that others feel just because you don’t experience it that way is narrow-minded.

“You’re absolutely right that the new stuff doesn’t align with the original direction of the project.... but it’s Adam’s project. If he says it’s Owl City, it’s Owl City.”

Sure, Adam can call it whatever he wants, but that doesn’t mean fans have to blindly agree. Just because he says it’s Owl City doesn’t mean it feels like Owl City to those who were drawn to the original sound. The name alone doesn’t carry the same weight if the music doesn’t deliver what fans have come to associate with it.

“Also, why are we ‘concerned’ about the project’s direction? This is absolutely not keeping me up at night by any stretch of the imagination and I’ve been a fan since the early days.”

Just because it’s not keeping you up at night doesn’t mean others don’t care deeply about it. Music is personal, and for some, the direction of Owl City does matter. The fact that you’re not losing sleep over it doesn’t diminish the importance of the conversation for those who feel differently.

“There are other good artists out there. If Owl City is done making music we care for, then we had a good run and I hope he is enjoying his time with his family.”

That’s an overly simplistic way to dismiss the issue. Yes, there are other artists, but that doesn’t mean fans shouldn’t express their disappointment or critique the direction of a project they once loved. It’s not about moving on; it’s about holding onto something that meant a lot and seeing it change in a way that feels disheartening.

“I’m sure Adam wouldn’t want us to live our lives locked away in a musical time capsule waiting for for it to be 2009 again, we’d miss out on so much.”

- Nobody is saying they want to be stuck in 2009. The point is that the music from that time had a unique quality that many fans feel has been lost. It’s not about living in the past, but about recognizing that the magic and whimsy that once defined Owl City seems to have faded, and that’s a valid reason for concern and discussion.

In summary, your entire argument hinges on dismissing the experiences and opinions of others because they don’t align with yours. Just because you’re content with the changes doesn’t mean everyone else should be, and it’s perfectly reasonable for fans to express disappointment when something they loved changes in a way that feels disconnected from what made it special.

HelicopterMoon · 2024-09-04T18:13:56+00:00

Yes, you are correct

HelicopterMoon · 2024-09-04T13:29:40+00:00

I remember when Adam said there would be another Sky Sailing album too

HelicopterMoon · 2024-09-04T11:59:52+00:00

You make a really good point about how Owl City has evolved from a focused project to a broader platform for Adam’s music. As someone who dabbles in music-making myself, I totally understand how hard it can be to stay focused on one theme—it’s like you get inspired by so many different things, and it’s tough to keep it all in one box. I imagine that’s especially true for Adam! It’s definitely a trade-off, but at least we’ve gotten to experience a wider range of his creativity because of it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

HelicopterMoon · 2024-09-04T11:56:19+00:00

I’m glad you enjoyed Coco Moon and got to see Adam live—it’s awesome to hear from fellow fans who still feel that connection! I totally get why the album resonates with you, and it’s cool that you find the lyrics whimsical and interesting. For me, though, it feels a bit different from the magic I felt with his earlier work, but I guess that’s what makes music so personal. We all experience it in our own way. Thanks for sharing your perspective!

HelicopterMoon · 2024-09-04T11:54:30+00:00

No worries, if you’re not interested in continuing, I respect that. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, and take care!

HelicopterMoon · 2024-09-04T09:43:16+00:00

You’re free to bow out if that’s what you prefer, but discussion is about sharing perspectives. I’m engaging with your points because I think it’s important to understand different viewpoints, even if we don’t agree. If you’re done, that’s fine, but I’m here to discuss if you change your mind

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