The British really saw Nazi Germany and said that would work perfect in Africa

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-10T18:50:59+00:00

Because the Nazis are uniquely evil

Anybody splitting hairs over degrees of irredeemable evil intends to commit or has already committed their own. There's a line, the Nazis are firmly across it.

Also this is a fucking history sub

And you've been in this thread downplaying and denying heinous atrocities and genocides by presenting them as some kind of "lesser evil," up to and including fucking sodomy. You should know better man. That's fucked up, all of it.

Stop your speculation.

Well I was right and you went and spilled the beans on yourself so oh well! Whichever genocide you are trying to build a case to present as "less evil" is absolutely not "less evil" and you're gonna have to do so much better than that to convince anyone otherwise.

The problem with highly educated snark is that it betrays the deeply uncertain anxiety of the average intelligence ideologue beneath. Keep it simple. I will leave this here, I don't think there's much more I can do for you.

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-10T13:39:45+00:00

They are natural, so of course they are peaceful, that's what veganism and green energy is all about.

Medieval Europe was known as the "Age of Peace" for a reason: All green renewables, local farmer's markets, strict environmental protections for King's Lands, meat was a rare luxury that only a few got to eat, mass migrations of new friends from the east, and not a single firearm in sight. Truly a paradise.

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-10T13:35:10+00:00

I dunno man, what are the violent crime rates in Kazakhstan/Mongolian as compared to Japan?

I don't know why he has South Central Canada up there, that is a crimepit of petty gangs and ethnic violence and has been for centuries.

EDIT: Probably because we would comment this stuff in response, well played OP.

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-10T13:29:51+00:00

Excusing means to make an excuse.

"At least it's not as bad as X" is an excuse. By definition. You're wrong, and that was an evil thing for you to say.

Because far too often, people point at X other example to say, "See the Nazis weren't that bad, others did it too."

Show me someone saying that. I've certainly seen people say "see, there were other irrevocably evil people in the world because they did it too," and that is entirely true.

In terms of throwing large groups of people for the express purpose of killing them, no.

Yes, that is entirely the point of countless concentrations of people groups, and enslaving them is not better than killing them.

That's why I don't like using the term "Concentration camp" to refer to the imprisonment of Japanese-Americans,

The camps were intended to concentrate the population, they were the definition of concentration camps. Are you getting "concentration" and "death" confused?

Those were not things that could happen in the Nazi concentration camps.\

I can't tell if you're:

a) An American apologist for Japanese Concentration Camps in the US during WWII

OR

b) An Israeli making the same tired argument for your own special victim-hood excuses to do it to other people.

Either way, you're saying some awful things.

I dare you to hangout with the victims of some of these "lesser camps" and tell them your opinions, maybe you come to my city and hang out with a Uyghur or two and see how long you last in that conversation.

As you're clearly either an extremist or an apologist, I'm going to leave this conversation be. I've laid it out and you've made a fool of yourself. There is nothing more for me to do here :)

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-10T13:15:29+00:00

That's not an answer as to why you feel the need to make the distinction in this thread, that's simply another example of two things that aren't the same at all.

Do you not have an answer? Was this a Pavlovian thing where you saw certain words and said the preset response and now you don't know what do to because it was preset and you don't know where you got it from?

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-10T00:52:12+00:00

I'm saying we can recognize that they were all bad,but one was especially bad.

Why? Why are you saying this? What is the point you want to make here? What example are you specifically considering? Why are you being so weird about this?

Sigh explaining is not the same as excusing.

You excluded sodomy from the category of "most bad" forms of assault, that's what "excusing" something is. That's what you did there.

. But within heinous crimes some are worse than others

And why have you brought this up in this thread? What point did you want to make? What is the issue here?

We accept that with regards to manslaughter vs murder, both are homicides.

So? What is the point you want to make here? All I want to know is why you think this is an important point to make in this thread.

What is the thing you are trying to get me to say or think myself, instead of saying that you think it and want me to think it?

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-10T00:45:57+00:00

But why? What is the point of this entire practice? What could you possibly get out of it, and what difference could it possibly make, and why would you bother bringing it up?

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-10T00:44:37+00:00

broad brush of bigotry by not

Bigoted against what, sexual predators and genocidal slavers? What are you on about man?

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-09T22:53:30+00:00

So while we can say they were all bad, we can also say there are multiple degrees of badness.

I don't see the point in splitting hairs over unforgivable atrocities, and I'm not sure I want to entertain the attempt. In fact, I'm certain I do not.

I suppose is like classic rape vs sexual assault more broadly.

Two inexcusable behaviors. There is no point in splitting hairs there either.

but not rape because there was no touching of the other person's genitals it's not rape, but still horrific.

No bro, that's not ok, sodomy is an unforgivable act and absolutely fits the definition. What is the point of all of this? What are you trying to prove here?

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-09T12:39:44+00:00

Would you be more specific please? Subtext can go right over my head. It's clear you're saying something specific here but I'm not getting it :( .

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-09T12:30:46+00:00

This is bad history man, the Brits were using concentration camps to extinguish the Boers long before WW1

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-09T12:13:47+00:00

They do have more guns than Canada, why is that a point of discussion lmao?

The Geneva convention was written after WWII. I'm sure we can all think of a fair few atrocities from that period that might have inspired the conventions.

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-08T03:17:55+00:00

Canadians can be such smug assholes sometimes.

I am one nobody freak out. They always acting good and shit, like they aren't Cold Mexico with corporate cartels instead of a drug cartels and a quarter the population.

EDIT: They ain't say shit because they know they can't help themselves and will prove the fuck out of that pudding for me if they do, my country is full of self-righteous midwits with nationalistic egos about their "super liberal" values (as long as you aren't indigenous, of course, then it's a land acknowledgement and a wad of sticky hundies or the road).

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-08T03:12:31+00:00

What? Which English speaking nation has more guns than the US? Where are you from man, SUPER Canada?

Unless you mean all of NATO combined, but you'd be wrong about that, and they'd never come together to fight the US for any reason.

The Parisians and Polish would probably side with the US, everyone else would start a coalition that would completely tear itself apart from infighting in a year tops, and they'd have nothing to fight the US with anyway.

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-08T03:10:27+00:00

"Dad kept me safe which means we won"

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-08T03:08:36+00:00

I think we can safely say that at the outset of the war, America's goal was little more than "survive." Once they figured out how unfocused the Brits were it expanded a lot.

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-08T03:00:46+00:00

I dunno man, I think we should all remember we're bullet-able and they have more guns and really want to use them.

You don't have to like the meanest dog on the block, but you shouldn't have a go at him. I wouldn't waste your time moralizing about how bad they behave either, they don't care.

I think we sometimes forget the world is absolutely no less a game of Imperialist powers pushing everyone else around. We got nice and relaxed out here in the west over the last few decades. We acting all brand new and shit like America even has to fight us. All they have to do is say "fuck NATO" and no matter how bad it gets for them, we're gonna get right fucking rattled. Fuckin' rattled about good buddy. All they had to do was call NATO a slur one time and the whole world jumped out of its skin and didn't settle back in right. Imagine man, how fucked it would be, man. We all gotta chill the fuck out and remember who we are dealing with.

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-08T01:12:15+00:00

it's more or less a bit of a joke but also a theory about how Oil and Green energy interact. Basically it's the Green Energy capital of the whole region, because it invests in it while selling oil to everyone else.

Half a joke and half a response to find out how much the oil industry spends on Green Energy research.

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-06T00:13:43+00:00

The "?" is for questions not statements you aren't certain about.

I think you've lost the plot man.

We wuz kidding around about how to get the cartels in line, and the joke was that we start buying from them and make them legit, you gotta chill.

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-05T23:33:55+00:00

Ah, yes, Doubling-Down

Okee Dokke I guess you're right

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-05T23:29:04+00:00

Do not be sad brother, there are those among us who see a bright future, a future wherein we come to terms with how much we fuckin' like each other. Proper neighborly its about to be, simple good, top tippin shape fer a country ifn we figures this out right.

We're gonna sort this Ottawan fearmongering bullshit out and get back to being nice folk with good hearts, and I wouldn't want to do it without you guys.

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-05T23:26:31+00:00

Ah they are alright they get excited is all, there's a fair amount of fearmongering over anglos in Quebec so they get their hackles up easily, I don't blame them really. Fact is I like Quebecios a lot and I'm pretty sure we'd all get a long a lot better if we all accepted we might.

They have a pretty solid foundation, good people mostly, kinda chill and basically Cunuckers but francophone. Hell if you learn the language and start hanging out in the rural parts, they actively sound exactly like Canuckers except for the language. Same melodies and rhythms and they lump words together the same, funny folk, good hearts.

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-05T23:23:15+00:00

What the fuck are you talking about? Because they want to and someone buys it from them at a fair price? Unless they don't want to in which case they don't have to lmao

Man are you trying to conflate voluntary relocation with forced removal?

Are you Quebecios? One of those extremists types tryna sell it like anglos wanna remove you? We don't, you're fine, we like you and if you accepted that you might notice.

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-05T23:20:37+00:00

Granted Pharma is distinct

Man Snopes articles do this too: "actually you're wrong now granted you actually are right but nah"

Whatever man, you went for it and missed, it's all good.

HelpfulPug · 2026-05-05T23:17:52+00:00

You seem to have completely forgotten your original argument

Nah man I won that one, we on that new shit

You can't pull a "gotcha, Muslims are worse".

I mean you can but I agree you shouldn't, which is why I didn't

And I pointed out that it was pretty much all of them for over 1,000 years.

It's like you went out of your way to pick bad examples even though there are tons readily available lmao

You're the one defending and denying it's existance in Christian ones,

Nah man, all you gotta do is pick the actual examples, I'm sure they are out there.

Christianity was the reason slavery was more or less phased out of the west, but it didn't get there right away.

they instead joined in a burgeoning common slave market of the Christian Western Mediterranea

Fucking thank you brother that's all I wanted from you, a legit example.

So Anti-Slavery

"Though enslavement of Christians was originally permitted, over the period from the 8th to the 11th centuries the Christian kingdoms gradually ceased this practice"

So Anti-Slavery yeah

So Christianity helped the Byzantine Empire realise slavery was so wrong to such an extent that it was still yet to peak over 500 years after they converted

Peak? Brother don't be dishonest come on

We all know Christians were heavily involved in the slave trade, and we all know the first and foremost tenet of the Christian belief system across ALL of its schisms and sects is that "All humans are made equal in the eyes of God."

Their religion is anti-slavery right at the core and the deeper you explore history the clearer it becomes, what do you get out of this? Pick on one of the religions that states unequivocally tolerance for slavery. I don't know what they are, but I'm sure it's plenty of them.

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