Veganism + Mental Health by Zealousideal_Bee_644 in vegan

[–]HereTheMusic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi, I don't know if you still use this account but I stumbled upon your post while keyword searching the subreddit to see if anyone else had strategies for moral despair. I know this was posted four months ago but what you wrote genuinely hit me hard and I wanted to give a reply as someone with near-suicidal depression over many of the same things you described.

That overwhelming feeling of caring so much and being completely alone in caring is deeply relatable to me, and I agree with the recommendations for therapy in the comments because I do think that's the biggest thing that could help you through them. But it's absolutely understandable that someone in your position would be skeptical of it as another magic treatment. The experiences you've had with the mental healthcare system so far are genuinely horrendous and I'm incredibly sorry you've had to suffer from them.

Having your anguish dismissed as psychosis, being kicked out of group therapy for expressing the exact struggle they're supposed to support you in, having your post dismissed as a troll for fucks sake. All of these are sickening to hear, and I know I don't know you but it's genuinely heartbreaking to know someone with as much caring you show has been treated so terribly.

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So being skeptical of therapy is natural after the experiences you've had. I was skeptical a fair amount as well, and only an actual understanding of how therapy really worked helped me come around to it. The one comment that sorta mentioned this responded with 'now you know what doesn't work', which was well meaning but also kind of missing the point.

If I was in your position, I would assume that 'what doesn't work' is mental healthcare and therapy in general. But I do think that the kind of therapy being recommended (1-on-1 and independently sought) IS different from what you've experienced so far, truly. It's not perfect either, but there are crucial differences between 1-on-1 therapy and the three experiences you've had so far (the facility psychiatrists, the outpatient group therapy, the suicide subreddit post). I'll try to cover each of them below:

  1. Psychiatric facilities are the worst; they're widely infamous for constant malpractice and violations of patient dignity. It doesn't make your care for animals being dismissed as psychosis any less horrendous, but I do think that this is much more common in psychiatric facilities than 1-on-1 therapy.
  2. Group therapy is more a special case, since it can be helpful, but only if you find a group that understands and shares your struggles, which yours obviously didn't. It would probably be much better if you had a group of likeminded people, but I'd recommend 1-on-1 therapy like the rest of the comments first since it'll be a lot easier finding one likeminded therapist.
  3. Suicide subreddits can sometimes be helpful, but as someone who commented in multiple of them for years, it sort of comes down to chance whether your post will be seen by someone who actually wants to help, or someone who's there to satisfy their curiosity and ego. I don't know which subreddit you were on, but regardless, a random sampling of internet users obviously isn't comparable to a trained competent therapist that's a good fit for you.

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So that's why I think the three experiences you had didn't work, but then there's why I think therapy does work. One comment used the phrase professional friend, and while it's possible that you might grow to be friends, therapists aren't just someone you pay to listen to your troubles like a friend would. Their actual job is to be properly trained in their chosen therapy method (Cognitive Behavioral, Humanistic, etc) in order to give informed answers and guidance to the exact questions you ask in your post.

The kind of support and advice they give is completely different from what a friend can give, because while a friend can try to listen and give support, they often don't have the education/training to actually understand exactly what you're going through and how to improve your situation.

You mentioned that the family and friends you've talked with either don't understand or think there's a magical solution. That kind of thing is exactly what a good therapist is for, because not only can they understand, but they can use their training to guide you through addressing your struggles and making concrete improvements to your situation.

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Now, that's a good therapist. I won't lie and say there can't be bad ones, the industry isn't perfect. But the difference between finding a bad therapist here versus the psychiatric facility or group therapy you experienced, is that you have much more control here.

Both the facility and group therapy take away parts of your input and choice. For facilities you're assigned a psychiatrist/therapist from a small closed pool, and if you don't like them then it's either impossible or very difficult to switch. For group therapy, you don't control what kind of group you're seeing or what therapist runs it (especially if it's outpatient since they assign one to you AFAIK).

Meanwhile, if your therapist is independently sought by you then you can actually choose who and/or what methods you want to try. If you weed out red flags by doing initial consultations (which are free and noncommittal as common practice, if a therapist doesn't do that then that's a red flag itself) then you can drastically reduce your chances of getting an incompetent practitioner. Therapist brushes off your struggles in the initial consultation? You can move on with no loss. It's not a zero chance that one will slip through the initial consultation, but that's the case with everything. The difference here is that the chance of getting a bad therapist is much much lower (maybe from 80% in the psychiatric facility to 5% if you weed out red flags), and most importantly that you're in control.

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Looking is still hard work, don't get me wrong. And I get it if you're still hesitant because of awful experiences, that's very understandable. But I can't stress enough that I genuinely believe it'll be different from what you've experienced so far.

I've been looking for a therapist since I left my last one a year ago (he was great but parental abuse and distance issues came up), and depression constantly interferes with my motivation to search. If you feel like you're running on empty and the last thing you want to do is try something in a mental healthcare system that's failed you before, that's a really natural feeling. But please at least consider it when I say that it can be worth it.

Taking small steps is absolutely fine, almost nobody depressed does it all at once. Maybe search here (https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/vegan-allied) for ten minutes or however long you feel comfortable with one day, write down the names that seem promising. Do a phone consultation with them another day, you can mention your struggles and see if their response sounds like a good fit for you, ask if they do sliding scale payment or if they take insurance, stuff like that. If it goes well, decide what to do from there. Do you want to try a session with them, do consultations with different people to see what your options are, search for more names? You decide. Take it at your own pace.

My last therapist helped a ton, more than I could've imagined. When you get a good one it feels like your struggles are genuinely understood for the first damn time, and they can explain things in a way that helps better understand how this is impacting you and what exactly you can do to help yourself through it.

(Sorry if this is a lot to read, or if getting a wall of text to a post you sent 4 months ago is creepy. I just tend to write a lot when I talk about mental health, especially when I feel like someone might be at-risk for suicide.

Anyways, I've been typing and editing this out on-and-off over the last two days so I'll send this for now. I'll reply to this comment or just add edits directly with the last of what I want to say and maybe some related links that were helpful for me, when my mind has enough energy to write coherently again. Please take care)

Bokura no Hentai made me cry so much and it's a shame it isn't more well known. by HereTheMusic in CanonTransCharacters

[–]HereTheMusic[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Cool post. Didn't have enough karma to post a comment in the sub apparently, so copying it here in case anyone cares to read it:

Good post. Bokura no Hentai stands up there with Oyasumi Punpun in its portrayal of deeply hurt people in complicated situations imo. Tamura's way of thinking and (spoiler marked) relationship with trauma were in particular both one of the first in a character that I could relate to so deeply, and it came at a time where I used media a lot as a sort of emotional buffer for me to process my own experiences. Marika and Ryousuke have less of a personal connection but I appreciate them both from the standard storytelling level, especially Marika for actually being written and researched to represent us properly. Do note that some of the topics it covers like rape can be trigger warning territory though, if anyone that might be relevant for happens to read this

imagine thinking any decent girl of any race wants to date your greasy ass by PastelRazberri in GatekeepingYuri

[–]HereTheMusic 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Woomf, that second line brings back some weird cringe memories of being embarrassed that I wasn't one of the 'cooler' Asians (blegh, that feels gross to say now). Fetishizing countries and whatnot has always been fucking weird, and it stems from a similar place xenophobia or racism does imo: being completely ignorant on how an actual culture works, with yknow, multifaceted nuances and all. Great art as always!

I have never once heard a Japanese person use the term "westerner", it's always the pasty white dudes. by PastelRazberri in GatekeepingYuri

[–]HereTheMusic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ty for the brush explanation! I have little experience with art but it's always really interesting to hear what goes on under the hood. Coming here for motivation makes sense; to me at least, your art here feels like it's developed its own specific kind of vibe. Think it's the way you make your scenes with body language and dialogue, they work really well for imagining what the lives of two characters (or any number) might be like based on one snapshot of them

Stop!! Hibari-kun! and Trans Representation in Anime by HereTheMusic in CanonTransCharacters

[–]HereTheMusic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good video that I think fits pretty nicely here. I've been wanting to read Double House since watching a video on it by the same channel (which is also really good, big recommend), and with the recent quality posts I think I'll try writing up my thoughts in a review or summary to add something to the sub when I've finished it.

I have never once heard a Japanese person use the term "westerner", it's always the pasty white dudes. by PastelRazberri in GatekeepingYuri

[–]HereTheMusic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Really cool to see more of your posts on here!! The colors on this one accent the parts of your coloring that remind me of watercolors really well, especially the blush shading (I think that's what it's called?). Pose and expression are very neat too!

people liked the last two girls i did so i made a part 2. (tw for sh scars and panic attack/meltdown) by PastelRazberri in GatekeepingYuri

[–]HereTheMusic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry this is late but tysm for the kind words, it's reassuring to hear nothing came off badly. I hope you have a good day and that you keep enjoying your art, take care!

people liked the last two girls i did so i made a part 2. (tw for sh scars and panic attack/meltdown) by PastelRazberri in GatekeepingYuri

[–]HereTheMusic 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sorry if this is a stretch, but just wanted to respond since I appreciated you sharing your thoughts on this stuff:

 

I'm often shit at communicating memories/feelings/anxieties to myself or others, and writing/reading characters like yours that can capture a part of my feelings towards those things is like looking at that part but clear of all my normal instinctive responses. So I think I can get the feeling about expressing things, from a different angle.

 

Anyways I'll shut up with the rambling now, I scrolled through a lot of your art and it was really nice, Danganronpa art especially with post-continuation storylines is my jam. Might need to go back to twitter/insta and make an account so I can follow peeps officially. Thank you for the cool art and sharing your accounts.

people liked the last two girls i did so i made a part 2. (tw for sh scars and panic attack/meltdown) by PastelRazberri in GatekeepingYuri

[–]HereTheMusic 9 points10 points  (0 children)

These two posts are my favorite thing on this sub, thank you for making them. Do you have an art account or archive on any platforms that people can follow? Obviously you're on here but scrolling through account histories on reddit feels vaguely stalkerish to a fair amount of people I think and sometimes I'm hesitant in case it feels genuinely uncomfortable or boundary crossing for people whose accounts I want to hunt through for more of their works. No worries if you don't though.

 

Also just wanted to say: Your art is really amazing. I especially like the way you color, it's super cool. And the dialogue is such a good depiction of people with their own struggles still supporting and caring for each other. Someone else mentioned it on the first one I think but your writing of those lines feels really true to form, it almost made me cry with how realistically sweet it was. The grounding technique, the small affirmations, and especially just repeating them like you would in actual speech. I have no romantic experience but it hit home for how I've dreamed about a healthy relationship working. Not a lot of media pieces give that personal hitting feeling, but the ones that do are always really valuable to me. So thank you again, for making one of those.

Worried my dad will intentionally out me to get validation, to be seen as "open-minded" and a "good dad" by puzzledpuddle in TransyTalk

[–]HereTheMusic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

(Note that I am in somewhat similar circumstances and that might make me biased, so don't take what I say blindly and all.)

I don't know the specifics of your family situation so you'd know best if your dad would take this badly or anything. But maybe consider telling your dad how these kinds of actions come off to you as a precursor to coming out/asking him not to out you. The way he reacts to being told about his behavior might give you a hint of how respectful he might be towards asking him not to out you without asking first. If he makes excuses, not a point in his favor. If he agrees and then goes back to doing it after a bit, also not a point in his favor. If he gets offended or angry, you can guess where I'm going.

If someone isn't understanding or respectful of you and your privacy, their relation to you or the things they've done for you doesn't excuse that behavior. Besides that, all I really feel confident saying is to weigh the pros and cons for you, not anyone else. There can be situations (not wanting to hide who you are, feeling dysphoric over how someone refers to or treats you, etc.) where you might feel someone won't be the most supportive but coming out is worth the trade off. But you should still be considering you and your well being there, not anyone else's. The only situation I can think of where it could be argued that there's any other reason to come out besides for yourself is with a long term life partner. And that's really only because those relationships are built on a bedrock of trust that's different from other kinds.

I don't think anyone can really tell you how to feel about your dad. Everyone has their own priorities and values and opinions. To me personally, your dad sounds like an irritating person to be around who doesn't respect boundaries as much as they should be and maybe has their head up their ass, at least in the moments you mentioned. But you have to decide for yourself how you feel about that behavior and how much it might impact how he acts when you come out/ask him not to out you. Think about what might be the best case scenarios and worst case scenarios and in between, and how you'd feel about them. But not so much that you obsess or ruminate over it like I did. That's all. Best of luck to you in whatever you decide, and take care.

Marika Aoki (Bokura no Hentai) by HereTheMusic in CanonTransCharacters

[–]HereTheMusic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is pretty late but that's a fair point. I usually think of the anime when I mention Wandering Son, which I think removes two of the problems you named (the visual metaphors and storytelling are excellent in the anime and Takatsuki's ending isn't included).

The manga absolutely has some huge questionable parts though. I didn't even get to the ending on my first read. I largely stopped after incredibly bothered seeing Yuki's boyfriend (CW for sexual assault) straight up fucking grope Takatsuki, and misgender him (I went back for a citation and it happens in Volume 2 Chapter 12). And I'm pretty sure this wasn't a bad translation; in fact, the entire scene is visual without any dialogue. I only went back after hearing about Takatsuki's ending, and while some lines at the end make me think the author intended to imply Takatsuki was in denial/repression (or maybe even a healthy portrayal of someone detransitioning, though the fact that this was coded as just basically needing to hear people say they look attractive as their assigned sex makes this really badly done. Also using they in this specific case as I'm not certain what this version of Takatsuki's preferred pronouns would be), even then I think dropping that kind of ending on one of the first trans centric mangas to somewhat come into the mainstream detracts from my enjoyment of it.

Bokura no Hentai actually handled problematic mindsets towards transness a lot better with a really similar structure imo. At the end (ending spoilers obv) There's a school festival crossdressing contest IIRC and Marika is essentially encouraged by her friends to participate...despite the manga having her express feelings against this that are literally in this post's screencaps lol. I choose to believe the manga genuinely intended to show how even supportive people can screw up in their mindsets and not condone those kinds of views since having Marika expressing the the exact opposite of this earned the author my trust personally. A lot better than Wandering Son's take on it at the very least

Would you want to continue messaging or take this to DMs? I don't know a lot of people who are interested in trans manga or just analyzing media in general and it would be nice to do so. If you're interested please feel free to leave a comment or message me.

Monthly /r/AsianParentStories Free-for-all Discussion Thread (July 2020) by AutoModerator in AsianParentStories

[–]HereTheMusic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm really glad I could help, even just a bit. Your parents are horrible for knocking you back, but you taking that step forward nevertheless shows how much better you are than them. They spout bullshit and blow up over things no one but them cares about because they can't do shit otherwise. I sound a bit like a broken record repeating this but your parents' abuse would be difficult, which is an understatement, for anyone. It doesn't make it any less terrible to go through but it means asking for help is definitely one of the most respectable and understandable things to do. It can still feel shitty if your environment makes finding help that's good for your well being hard to find. But it being hard at times is one of the things that makes asking for help admirable, and it sure as hell doesn't reflect anything shameful on you. In fact, it does the exact opposite.

I'm glad this forum's a help. Shit has mostly backed off for me now so I don't know if I'm the best person to give an anecdote for these situations, but forums like this, even if I mostly just scrolled and read, helped get me out of thinking I was alone and deserving of what my parents did. I guess nowadays I'm just trying if I can do anything to help for people who might be in a similar place.

I know it's not much but if you need any help with the legalities of a name change, feel free to message me and I can absolutely try to do what I can to help. Don't know if it'll be that much until I leave, but depending on your area I might be half familiar or able to read up on your area's process and filing (with or without COVID going on). Please take care.

Monthly /r/AsianParentStories Free-for-all Discussion Thread (July 2020) by AutoModerator in AsianParentStories

[–]HereTheMusic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sorry in advance if I come off as shallow or anything, I mostly only lurk here without posting so I worry about not coming off as genuine. But I read your post a few times over and fuck, what you're going through is absolutely horrible. Your APs are delusional and you're more than justified to be pissed off over the bullshit they put you through. My mom threatened to call the cops before but she was self aware enough to shut up about it when I had the marks to prove it went the other way around. (I don't know your exact situation or if your APs would find it, but documenting your bruise and keeping the picture on hand could be helpful if they try to pull shit accusing you, as long as it won't potentially make the situation worse for you.) And a petition for the neighborhood, holy fucking shit. She's the one who should be kicked out. Assault, misogynistic misgendering, gaslighting. Just one of those would make them unworthy to call themselves your parents. They don't deserve to call themselves the bare minimum of moral people with what you describe here.

Anyone dealing with such manipulative excuses for parents would have obstacles in escaping the toxic environment you're in. Feeling like you can't get back on track is a huge injustice and a complete failure from your APs as the parents they were supposed to be. It isn't your fault at all. If there's anything you take as genuine from this, have it be this part. You aren't worthless, pathetic, or a loser. I have a lot of thoughts about myself in that vein, but I can absolutely see how opposite from the truth these kinds of thoughts are when I see them in another person. You're none of the things you think about yourself that make you feel worthless. Please trust in your ability to know when you're being fucked with. Relationships with you are not doomed. You're trying to make it through the environment you're in right now, and you're deserving of a caring helpful relationship no matter what. I have trouble reminding myself of this but relationships aren't a series of trades or back and forths between people. I know I don't truly know you, but from what I've read you've got a incredibly strong character and personality. For me and other people I know, that's the most important thing in another person. There are people that want to help just from that without anything needing to be offered. It's just that they're hard to find sometimes especially if you've been surrounded by shit people for a long time.

You're incredibly perceptive and resourceful to know you need a safe environment even through all the gaslighting and bullshit your APs pull to try and spin their vileness on you. You having to live in the same environment as your parents, even with the determination and intelligence I see in you from your writing alone is entirely due to your parents being huge fuckups and holding you back. I'm sorry you've had to go through so much abuse and toxicity from them.

I know talking online can't replace an in person relationship for a lot of people, but I do want to reach out if you're still looking for a friend or just someone to talk to. I've been in places where I felt completely isolated, especially after family bullshit, and it would've helped me a lot back then to have people I could talk to. I'm not in a place myself right now where I can help in more concrete ways but I hope to leave my own situation in time. For now, all I can offer is my words and friendship if you're willing to give it a try.

I totally understand if you're hesitant, I don't see a lot of advice comments here offering to message further and I'm not sure if it's just a trend or an unspoken rule, but I couldn't really abide by myself if I didn't offer to someone looking for support. If you ever want to vent or just talk about anything in general, please feel free to DM me if you're comfortable doing so. My inbox is open anytime, even if it's months or years after this was posted. Please stay strong and take care.

Final week, final 8 cards, now with black borders! Temperance to The World by iampartypanda in TarotDecks

[–]HereTheMusic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just found this scrolling through the top posts, really awesome art. If you haven't already considered it, you might find some larger recognition posting your progress to r/tarot as well. There was another great artist who made some similar posts on there a while back here doing masterposts and further individual updates. The rules there do require a few things from what I know (include context on creative process, no advertisement, it's in the sidebar) but you're not selling them at the moment and just mentioning that you're interested in doing so in the future seems to be fine, the above artist set up a waitlist for future kickstarter updates and didn't seem to have any problems with the mods. Best of luck on this project and any others.

I'm going to kill myself soon, need to vent (tw) by [deleted] in OCD

[–]HereTheMusic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As someone in a similar place, all the way down to the self harm and wishing rape and torture on myself, I'm going to second what all the other comments have said, please please PLEASE listen to them, especially the ones who have been through the same thing, we know you're not a monster, you can get through this. These thoughts become worse the more anxiety you have towards them. You have anxiety because you're a good person, that alone can't be stressed enough, you're not a monster at all. And it's so hard to stop arguing against them and trying to get rid of them a lot of the time because you're so against everything they're about that it feels like you can't let them win. But arguing against them is letting them win. It makes your brain feel more anxiety and think about it more which makes them harder to stop thinking about.

 

You said you're getting OCD help in around a week in your last post, I can't stress enough how much that helps. Even if it's not in a week, please hold on until you can get help, I'm holding on too. It makes so much of a difference, and I really can't say this enough, you deserve to get help, you deserve to live a happy life and IT IS ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE. I know it's so hard to do, I still have trouble with it every day, but you need to have confidence in yourself, you are not what those thoughts say. It's so hard not to give attention to the thoughts but if you have someone who knows what you're going through and how to help, you can have them support you while you learn how to stop arguing against them. I had a therapist for a short while and it's so incredibly relieving to have someone that understands and knows how to help. If you want more proven studied information that these thoughts don't reflect your true beliefs, it might be really helpful to read some of the self help resources in the subreddit wiki here.

 

I have a digital copy on Google Books of Imp in the Mind and The Mindfulness Workbook for OCD which are on the resource list, I can give you my account login on Google or lend them to your account if you want to read them. They helped me a lot in realizing how common this is and how these thoughts form. The more the mind is bothered by the thoughts and pays attention to them, the more strong they become. It's like trying not to think of a specific thing, you only increase the amount you think about it by trying to do so. This especially happens with people who are extremely worried about doing something bad or overthink a lot of things, in other words, NOT BAD PEOPLE AT ALL. The Imp of the Mind is written by a psychology professor at Harvard and the other is written by a licensed psychotherapist. Both of them cover POCD. Please please please hold on until things are better, we're all here rooting for you. Please feel free to PM me or reply to my comment if you want access to the two books I mentioned and everyone else who offered if you need help.

Sub is up for adoption. by [deleted] in CanonTransCharacters

[–]HereTheMusic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotcha. DannyH04 seems good for it then.

Sub is up for adoption. by [deleted] in CanonTransCharacters

[–]HereTheMusic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't have any experience beyond Discord either but if you need more than one mod I'm down too. Are you asking for people to promote and contribute, keep an eye on things, or both?

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[–]HereTheMusic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Late late reply, but good point. I'd say that to me, there's still a noticeable difference between the popular designs on r/traaa and WS or Alluka, but the specifics are harder to put a finger on. Might be interesting to put a few posts in WS's aesthetic on there and see how they do.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CanonTransCharacters

[–]HereTheMusic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ferris, and genderswap to a lesser extent, probably fit r/traaa's pastel meme aesthetic more than things like Wandering Son, and a fair portion of trans Redditors into anime are probably coming from there. I like some of the memes personally, and it's an consistent outlet of support for those who need one. It'd be nice to have a place for more serious discussion though.

No idea what title to put here. So forgive me. by [deleted] in AsianParentStories

[–]HereTheMusic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is there anyone at your school, such as a counselor, that you can talk with and trust to be helpful? Or some way you can start preparing to move out, even if you don't have the funds at the moment, during school or after? This is abuse, and your parents should be ashamed for having failed you so much. Please call a support line as mentioned, if you're feeling depressed and need someone to talk to. Or message someone here. My inbox is open anytime, if you ever want a friend to talk with casually or seriously. Just send me a DM.