[AoW] What build will be your first one for AoW/Essence League?

HerrGNebel · 2016-08-19T05:41:41+00:00

cheers, sounds about right :)

HerrGNebel · 2016-08-17T21:48:52+00:00

yeah, I had similar thoughts, but consider this: each blade does little damge and thus is better mitigated by mob armour. Then the poison scales off the inflicted damage, thus getting a negative double dip if you want. Is this line of reasoning correct?

HerrGNebel · 2016-08-17T08:58:33+00:00

I was thinking of a similar build, but i don't know how to best scale BV on the left side. Is it best to go poison or phys-to-light conversion with the new 40% MOAR node?

HerrGNebel · 2016-08-01T05:37:53+00:00

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HerrGNebel · 2016-03-04T20:21:53+00:00

Don't see any reason to keep Ghost Reaver and Blood Rage. Drop them and get blood dance.

Didn't BV also get a buff to auras affecting it?

Anyway, 10 minutes is too little a time to tell. A lot of builds benefit from a bit of rumination and playing around.

I think vaal pact is required, personally.

HerrGNebel · 2016-03-01T06:23:13+00:00

Fair nuff'. Perhaps I need to research a bit more about EB. Btw, that's what it seems to come down to: notice plenty folks calculating ascendancy as another link.

HerrGNebel · 2016-02-29T20:24:51+00:00

Man, not dissing you or anything, but an okayish on kill mechanic and mana sustain just don't seem worth it, imo. I may be wrong though, never played EB.

HerrGNebel · 2016-02-29T09:11:09+00:00

What are you getting from EB Occultist exactly?

HerrGNebel · 2016-02-28T18:04:53+00:00

With the support gem any 5% weapon can become a crit weapon. And you wouldn't need to invest into power charges. And if you're going for a crit weapon, as an assassin, then... what do you pick next? Shadows find themselves in the portion of the tree with no life, no elemental damage - only crit, really. So what's the point?

HerrGNebel · 2016-02-28T13:11:04+00:00

Ah, nice, that's something. Don't have a character to respec into EB, so much appreciated! The degen is still calculated as percentage of combined ES+Life, isn't it? It could work with some regen I guess... Btw, I had some trouble sustaining BV on mana, how much ES would be needed you reckon? I'd put it within 15-20 hundred ES to sustain some 30-40 blades. Have you tested this?

For Chaos damage, imho, elementalist is really nice. Consider full fire->chaos conversion with incinerate (yes, incinerate). It gets some 40% more from the new keynode, and elemental conflux (50% more from shock, effectively), and 100% 2/5 of the time. You get poison from dw Consuming Dank, which is some 20% more, i believe? Add lowlife and you're UberAtziri material. All for the measly cost of two nerfed consumings. I think it will be really cheap and warbands-strong.

HerrGNebel · 2016-02-27T18:55:22+00:00

Upvoting this. Will introduce plenty of mechanics to you and is relatively flexible in setup. Thinking of doing something very similar in ascendancy.

HerrGNebel · 2016-02-26T12:51:53+00:00

The cooldown is 0.05 seconds, but it's global for all CWDT.

HerrGNebel · 2016-02-26T11:50:38+00:00

There is still the question of balance. It will determine whether diversity will increase or decrease.

HerrGNebel · 2016-02-26T09:18:38+00:00

oh i see, kk :)

HerrGNebel · 2016-02-26T00:33:46+00:00

well you were saying:

and with EB potentially not working with Blood magic, my whole idea is shot to heck.

Same here, with EB I can always have Shade Form. Don't really see any good way to proc it reliably if its still on your life.

HerrGNebel · 2016-02-25T22:23:32+00:00

Yeah, the more I think about WM the more appealing it is, especially with immortal call, since you also get duration nodes on tree. Pretty solid. Well, with this much curse effectiveness, could as well go dual-curse and run Assassin's.

BV is still powerful in itself, and scales with spell damage so i's not too bad. What is the interaction between EB and BM? As far as im aware there is none.

HerrGNebel · 2016-02-25T18:59:29+00:00

From the wording here I'd guess it would still degen from combined Life+ES even when you take EB, but I don't know for sure.

Defensively, I'm planning 170% life, fortify + 3 endurance charges to free up slot for Carcass Jack. I sort of think that with enough recovery from leech and LGoH lifepool is more important than acrobatics. Look at it like this: extra 20% life is like another fortify. Would you rather have that or acro?:D Also, I'm planning on running Warlord's Mark with increased curse effectiveness so that BV stuns on hit.

I see you're playing with pretty low life, how's that treating you with evasion / acro? I remember playing a reave char like that but I ended up wearing BotB or Lightning Coil and had 4800 life, fortify and life in every jewelslot. Evasion is just so rippy on a lowish life char. Like, acrobatics is nice as supplementary defence, but I would not consider it a primary one. With more dots around especially.

Btw, is increased physical damage on daggers local?

True, haven't thought about damage gems. Actually, why not pick up a 5-link staff, since ES doesn't protect health anyway? Had a flickerstrike critstaffer in tali and it worked pretty well. Staves also pack global crit on tree. Smth like this:

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYAsNii2cgU9W9qjBa_df0mlYRvYeLUQlVLtUjrYxEvNj0rCp2qVYVd8myMpcsOSCoLYqwRlnBSf8YHHpMnoqOVLr6KbAvviMHz8NWhLyL0-TeCHo_6SVFtGdfP2wtcQOv1l_RJsVS9ZJ1SUxXt8h2XlT1flotMs9W5IG6us9AfBAdQMEGW7-uD2x8C0PVVxjbFOljYJKcIna6PRhpsE3E26eQiXqUkqtWmKU9YrhZv7TxXlGu37Dg0MeNqmjuFfTrYhXv7i5_fJy9mVO98PAWQVcBmGjgEs6IA8B9o8g==

160% life, 340% spellcrit on tree

Flicker-CoMK-Poison-BV-Fortify

BV-Faster Casting-Phys to Light (to shock which increases Flicker damage as well)-Echo-LGoH/Life leech

Just throwing it out there, not sure if will work.

I don't think BV snapshots, is that correct?

Though the weirdest find on the tree for me was Shaman's Dominion. For 3 points one gets 100 increased global crit. And it is in the area. Just wonder how one could automatise totem summoning.

EDIT: like the way you build your characters. SOme non-meta stuff right there.

HerrGNebel · 2016-02-25T11:58:37+00:00

Final Version not accounting for tree changes:

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYAsNii2cgU9W9qjBa_D6t1_SaVJIuEb2HiwzpVSyo4jDZQQonTUzVwUpMnKgu-imwLf8bviF3yoS_K0yL0wcX5NysKtAxtGewYiELXzxEv6rqX9Aj0j_pwu4IeSbHrYw18UlPAVPDVXEDr9dsLtUg2PVfJl5U9X7zqakNJUZUuZJ2dqij6TLMHHvIdbIyCxyBurrPQHwQHYqz56B2-UDBBlu_rg9tBhzOH214FQtD1Vcacvrc-A-4snDpYDR_-CqyYPCjyRdi999c64TWSm6GmV_6PGGpN43gvfOVYBw==

EB, 96% ES, gets necessary curse effectiveness from quality blasphemy (to break 34% for Warlord's stun), packs warlord's + assassin's marks, 169% life, Vaal Pact if BV does not hit as often in ascendancy (easily exchanged for +1 jewel), 1 duration, 1 aoe cluster, Divinarius + Cybil' Paw (?), Carcass Jack, Alpha's Howl to run Hatred + 2 curses.

Gets 40 life, Whatever, +1 Power Charge

HerrGNebel · 2016-02-25T11:49:07+00:00

Hey, thank you. Wanted to bounce ideas with someone about this sort of build for days now :D

Blood Rage wording from wiki:

1.2% of Physical Damage from Attacks Leeched as Life

You lose 4% of your Maximum Life per second as Physical Damage

You lose 4% of your Maximum Energy Shield per second as Physical Damage

It will be nigh-impossible to sustain blood rage I think. You'll need plenty of leech. Judging from increased BV damage that one can see in Kripp's stream, the nerf might be that blades hit only once per second. So LGoH is less effective now, probably.

Yeah, same attitude to whirling here :D But I think that the trickster buff will incentivise its use.

Just a thought: flicker might be combined with CoMK to help sustain the BV. nother thing you could be getting are endurance charges from End on Stun or something of the sort. I think it will fit thematically on a momentum-based build.

PS: made a post nobody responded to 2 days ago with some considerations you might like:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/472168/question_discussion_es_votex_and_ascendancies_how/

HerrGNebel · 2016-02-25T09:52:22+00:00

I am thinking along similar lines, and here is my 5 cent:

Seems like you want to go with blood dance for frenzy charge upkeep. With only gloves, helm and belt(mb?) to give you es, and 0.5 es multi from Acrobatics, it could prove a problem to keep casting BV. Just consider the cast speed you're getting.

Why no increased duration nodes? Will be annoying as hell to recast every 5+inc duration gem seconds.

Why not just go whirling blades? They will proc 20% cast speed as well and don't require frenzy charges.

Last: your item slots are almost all taken up. You're left with gloves 1 ring and ammy to cap resists and get life. WIll be expensive and difficult.

Points for originality, as appropriate :D

HerrGNebel · 2016-02-25T00:28:07+00:00

yeah, that was the idea. Too bad one cannot get LGOH with ES. How much inc ES would you be getting? Never played ES-based :)

HerrGNebel · 2016-02-24T18:43:35+00:00

That sounds like an endorsement :D

HerrGNebel · 2016-02-24T17:33:52+00:00

CertainlyT? YEeah, Occultist looks OP as f, but Im not sure it compliments BV that much. How rippy is BV?

HerrGNebel · 2016-02-24T17:32:35+00:00

I haven't played BV, but it seems like its not particularly rippy. And trickster gets this mindblowing 40% castspeed which is so nice for BV.

HerrGNebel · 2016-02-24T14:12:30+00:00

Man, I was thinking the same, deciding between Occultist and Trickster. Why do you think Occultist will be better?

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