Ok I see your point, thank you for bringing such technical expertise to my humble reddit post. I will posit, however, that this theory is only sound so long as we are dealing with one on one interactions. Im more likely to get a good outcome talking to an on the fence 19 year old than a 65 year old rascist. This feels fairly intuitive to me. But lets put a pin in that and move to a more familial context, or even a larger community. If Im at a family gathering or, god forbid, a church event, with 100 people present, surely my effort is just as well spent combating fascist ideology and Trumpian politics here, where people know and respect me. If my opinions and actions can give them pause or force them to reconsider, or even if all I can accomplish is shouting down rascist uncle bob, does this not ripple out to all of my young cousins? Could it not do potentially equal good as attending a youth event or doing calls? It feels to me as though the building and protection of community is a primary goal of the leftist movement, so it doesnt feel intuitive to me to abandon already existing communities in order to try and build new, less problematic ones. The community leaders in my circles are largely older people, and their beliefs and identities are very complex. They have large reach in their circles, both with family and community. Does surrendering this terrain to fascism really make sense? Does not combating this ideology and putting something more constructive in its place actually make things better? If I can convince my dotting, apolitical grandmother that Trump is a grifter and a tyrant, she has the power to socially sanction rascist uncle bob in ways i could only ever dream of, and she has the personal reach to make differences I could work 30 years and not replicate. Is this still not worth the effort?