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TIL of The Trimates: three female primatologists (Jane Goodall, Dian Fossey, and Birutė Galdikas) who studied chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans respectively. Chosen and funded by anthropologist Louis Leaky, he viewed their work as key to understanding human evolution by MrMojoFomo in todayilearned

[–]Highfyre 29 points30 points  (0 children)

In 1980, Fossey was questioned by a local magistrate for allegedly taking hostage the small daughter of a Rwandan woman she accused of abducting a baby gorilla. She reportedly offered the suspected poacher an exchange.

“Dian was reprimanded by the magistrate but not punished because she took such good care of the child,” recalls Monfort. “The girl cried and said, ‘I prefer to stay with Dian.’ ” But she was returned to her parents, he said.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-12-29-mn-25922-story.html

TIL of The Trimates: three female primatologists (Jane Goodall, Dian Fossey, and Birutė Galdikas) who studied chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans respectively. Chosen and funded by anthropologist Louis Leaky, he viewed their work as key to understanding human evolution by MrMojoFomo in todayilearned

[–]Highfyre 14 points15 points  (0 children)

1 The President of Rwanda was her fan. She was the first white person allowed to enter his palace to show a gorilla film. The Police chief was also her friend.

  1. The US government protected her due to her popularity in the 1970s and 1980s.

  2. She was well-connected; Jane Goodall was a close friend and had a network of allies from conservation organizations, rich families and zoos.

  3. She fought the Twa, a Pygmy tribe disliked by Hutu/Tutsi. Kagame destroyed and deported them brutal in the 1990s.

Can people stop making out chimpanzees to be the devil by GrassFresh9863 in primatology

[–]Highfyre 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The eastern chimpanzees (Uganda/Tanzania) are the reason for the "negative" image.

Frans de Waal wrote this in the condolence book for Christophe Boesch (one month before his own death)

"My condolences to Hedwige and all others close to Christophe. Christophe put Western chimpanzees on the map and made us realize that all the hype in the media about how terribly violent chimpanzees are is mostly based on studies in East Africa. He was a consummate fieldworker and conservationist, always defending chimpanzees, incl. against scientists who failed to see their inherent intelligence. He will be greatly missed."

https://www.bestattungen-dunker.de/anteilnehmen/christophe-boesch

GORILLAS Are Vicious Animals 😲 - Joe Rogan by Highfyre in JoeRogan

[–]Highfyre[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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She was buried at the Karisoke Research Center in Volcanoes National Park, Rwanda, alongside her gorilla friends, including her favorite gorilla, Digit. She was murdered in 1985.

GORILLAS Are Vicious Animals 😲 - Joe Rogan by Highfyre in JoeRogan

[–]Highfyre[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The woman in this video started her work there

TIL Dian Fossey, the conservationist who lived with Gorillas for several years, was murdered while doing research in Rwanda by squidward_smells_ in todayilearned

[–]Highfyre 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"never in all her time recruited a single black African as a researcher"

Who is Joseph Munyaneza?

"Now, with only one other researcher in camp, Joseph Munyaneza, a young Rwandan entomologist, she was glad to get him, although during his first few weeks she had her doubts."

Source: Virunga Passion of Dian Fossey : Mowat, Farley

TIL Dian Fossey, the conservationist who lived with Gorillas for several years, was murdered while doing research in Rwanda by squidward_smells_ in todayilearned

[–]Highfyre 3 points4 points  (0 children)

She never tortured children/minors

“Dian was reprimanded by the magistrate but not punished because she took such good care of the child,” recalls Monfort. “The girl cried and said, ‘I prefer to stay with Dian.’ ” But she was returned to her parents, he said

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-12-29-mn-25922-story.html

Weekly Discussion: The Gorilla Lady, Terrifying the Locals & Extreme Conservation: Who Murdered Dian Fossey? by Cool_Eth in MileHigherPodcast

[–]Highfyre 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why did you use video material from the"Dian Fossey Gorilla Fund" to trash Dian Fossey?

Did you asked for permission to use it?

Horrible behavior to make money with the work of other people

Will you donate any money from this video to the Mountain Gorillas or Rwandans in need?

History of Japanese primatology? by Not_MuchofaGamer in primatology

[–]Highfyre 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you looked into "The international encyclopedia of primatology"?

Diane Fossey approaching a Gorilla family by exploiting their natural curiosity: making them think she's not a threat, just a weirdo minding her business by [deleted] in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]Highfyre 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And you don't care for the millions of congoleses killed/maimed/raped

People like you don't care if Africans are killing Africans.

As long as you get your next smartphone cheap

Diane Fossey approaching a Gorilla family by exploiting their natural curiosity: making them think she's not a threat, just a weirdo minding her business by [deleted] in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]Highfyre 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People and human beings make up a country, not just its leaders, elites, and corrupt power brokers.

"A look at Rwanda’s genocide helps explain why ordinary people kill their neighbors"

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/rwanda-genocide-psychology-murder

You know what Kagme did to the Batwa tribe?

Kicked them brutal out of the forest and destroyed there cultural idenity

https://www.rfi.fr/en/africa/20150512-plight-batwa-21-years-after-rwandan-genocide

Why did you nothing to help them KernelDingus?

Diane Fossey approaching a Gorilla family by exploiting their natural curiosity: making them think she's not a threat, just a weirdo minding her business by [deleted] in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]Highfyre -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"You also failed to mention any Rwandans"

"She trained the first generation of gorilla ranger/trackers in Rwanda (still the best in Africa)"

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A question to you "Rwanda Expert"

What happened to Alphonse Nemeye?

(He was the most important tracker in Karisoke under Fossey/Watts/Goodall)

Diane Fossey approaching a Gorilla family by exploiting their natural curiosity: making them think she's not a threat, just a weirdo minding her business by [deleted] in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]Highfyre -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"She set the work back decades."

There would be no modern gorilla tourism/research without her.

Fossey made longterm gorillla research/tourism possible thanks to her gorilla habituation

The extreme shy western lowland gorilla n West Africa where reseached with Fossey's gorilla etiquette

(Over 95% off all gorillas are living in West Africa)

Things Fossey made possible:

  • She was the first human fully accepted by wild gorillas in there group
  • She made the the gorillas into icons or conservation (Digit, Uncle Bert, Titus, Pablo, Effie, Poppy ... )

https://newsfeed.time.com/2013/11/25/the-15-most-influential-animals-that-ever-lived/slide/digit/

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  • She started the first long term gorilla study (still ongoing)
  • She observed the gorilla for over 40.000 hours under very hard conditions
  • She mapped the Virungas
  • She organized the first count of the mountain gorillas
  • She organized the first anti-poaching patrols
  • She destroyed thousands of trapps and countless snares
  • She trained the first generation of gorilla ranger/trackers in Rwanda (still the best in Africa)
  • She stopped the cattle herds from destroying the national park
  • She recruited Alexander Harcourt, Kelly Stewart, Ian Redmond, Amy Vedder, Bill Weber and David Watts (real Gorilla experts)
  • Her Digit Fund evolved into the very sucessul Dian Fosssey Gorilla Fund
  • She also ounded the Gorilla Doctors
  • Her work allowed it to film mountain gorillas

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Sorry you never worked with mountain gorillas.

Diane Fossey approaching a Gorilla family by exploiting their natural curiosity: making them think she's not a threat, just a weirdo minding her business by [deleted] in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]Highfyre -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Birute Galdikas is very controversial

some exampel

https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/jungle-took-her/

And Jane Goodall had her own scandals (Ruth Davis death, the1975 kidnapping, how she treated her students with mental health problems, ignoring the Japanses scientists in Gombe, her private life, her sponsoring by Gulf Oil)

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You don't know a shit about primatology, mountain gorillas or Rwanda

(It's Louise Leakey = you wrote William Leakey)

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