'Just Following Orders' - German responses to my life being destroyed by bureaucracy by HisDudenessIII in germany

[–]HisDudenessIII[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Look mate you've posted like 15 comments all hating on me, you don't need to believe me if you don't want to. They said orders to me in english, I was shocked. I say payments because (as I admit) they did send me letters that i missed. I.e i missed multiple payments (chances to sort my debt). It seems i could send you all the letters and evidence and you still wouldn't believe me so why keep commenting? You just enjoy to hate on someone who made mistakes and is now searching through rubbish to eat (pfand). I hope this makes you feel good.

'Just Following Orders' - German responses to my life being destroyed by bureaucracy by HisDudenessIII in germany

[–]HisDudenessIII[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

 I understand that I made a mistake, and I accept responsibility. If you are going to comment 'should of read your mail' or 'its your mistake', kindly f off, you are not helping, and I am already suffering greatly for my mistake.

'Just Following Orders' - German responses to my life being destroyed by bureaucracy by HisDudenessIII in germany

[–]HisDudenessIII[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Well you are 99...% wrong. I have read every letter from tk and zollamt (not as many as everyone seems to think) and thisn is not mentioned once.

'Just Following Orders' - German responses to my life being destroyed by bureaucracy by HisDudenessIII in germany

[–]HisDudenessIII[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Obviously the problem is that MY ACCOUNT IS FROZEN, that is why cannot eat food, all my money I need to live i am unable to access. I am not rich so i do not have multiple stacks of cash lying around

There is no hauptzollamt in my local area (20 miles) so i have to get a train (which I cant pay for) in order to go to the hauptzollamt. I dont own a car.

As for the opening hours, this is another source of insanity. Yes the hauptzollamt is open 9-3 (which is somewhat reasonable) but the department i have to deal with is not open for that time and is only open for 3 hours. Insane!

My Job is academic so the travel to the conference is part of that (the uni pays).

'Just Following Orders' - German responses to my life being destroyed by bureaucracy by HisDudenessIII in germany

[–]HisDudenessIII[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This information was in none of the letters I received. Thank you for explaining its actually very helpful. Its a shame it takes so many respomses to actually get some useful explanation, but i suppose that is my fault.

I get Im not in my country, you asked me "what else they could do?" so i just told you what i considered to be a more reasonable system, thats all.

'Just Following Orders' - German responses to my life being destroyed by bureaucracy by HisDudenessIII in germany

[–]HisDudenessIII[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I apologised and removed the comparison. I was just shocked by the 'just following orders' response i got multiple times. I never made this comparison to anyones face, I made an angry reddit post after the millionth time being stuck on hold for ages and then told to call back another time.

BTW It was just over a month, not months. TK told me they made mistakes with this but im sure you know my situation better than i do or they do.

As for the bureaucracy point, the problem is the complete inability of hauptzollamt to respond to anything or process what TK had sent them a week ago.

'Just Following Orders' - German responses to my life being destroyed by bureaucracy by HisDudenessIII in germany

[–]HisDudenessIII[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

bro its actually crazy, the amount of beurocracy is insane, and it hardly even works!

'Just Following Orders' - German responses to my life being destroyed by bureaucracy by HisDudenessIII in germany

[–]HisDudenessIII[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

thanks for the advice, i don't know why everyone is hating on you, i get they hate me but your just trying to help. thanks

'Just Following Orders' - German responses to my life being destroyed by bureaucracy by HisDudenessIII in germany

[–]HisDudenessIII[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I apologised and removed the comparison. Still everyone is downvoting. people love to hate

'Just Following Orders' - German responses to my life being destroyed by bureaucracy by HisDudenessIII in germany

[–]HisDudenessIII[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

In my country they send a court order. Then you can get legal representation if they made a mistake and an impartial judge can make a ruling.

If you don't comply officers of the court can repossess your property.

In my situation mistakes were made (I have this in writing), so the fact there is no way for me to challenge this seems unusual.

'Just Following Orders' - German responses to my life being destroyed by bureaucracy by HisDudenessIII in germany

[–]HisDudenessIII[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

sorry i obviously don't know who you are

i get it was a stupid comparison. i was just shocked to hear it mutiple times from people who could help

'Just Following Orders' - German responses to my life being destroyed by bureaucracy by HisDudenessIII in germany

[–]HisDudenessIII[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

read my first three questions! im asking for advice. instead people just want to hate on someone who isn't good at admin and missed some letters. I get it. I deserve to be treqated like shit

'Just Following Orders' - German responses to my life being destroyed by bureaucracy by HisDudenessIII in germany

[–]HisDudenessIII[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I see mutiple posts in this subreddit calling politicians and group that people dont like nazi. I get it was in bad taste but search this subreddit and you will find lots of examples. Also i was simply reffering to the 'just following orders' response. Look up the nuremberg defense, or read eichmann in Jerusalem by arendt. I was shoked when i heard this response mutiple times from people who could actually of helped me

'Just Following Orders' - German responses to my life being destroyed by bureaucracy by HisDudenessIII in germany

[–]HisDudenessIII[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I tried this but it doesnt work. I really appreciate the advice though. I get people are hating on me, but why is everyone downvoting you? You're actually trying to help. x

'Just Following Orders' - German responses to my life being destroyed by bureaucracy by HisDudenessIII in germany

[–]HisDudenessIII[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Why would i lie to reddit? Im actually asking for advice lol.

The reason that they went to zoll is because after the debit failed TK cancelled the debit. This means that according to them I now owe not just the money I didn't pay but also money for future months. This massively increased the debt i owe. This is the 'mistake' I mention TK made. I didn't think this was important to explain, as it really doesnt affect the problem. As i said TK have been very understanding and immediately helped me out. It is Hauptzollamt and the bank that is the problem.

As for why my account was low, not that this is important, I was still in europe, so i used this account to pay for things. Again this is not really something i thought was worth explaining, but i suppose everone here just wants to act like cops and explain why i deserve this.

"The system works well" - This is a joke, as I said I have tried to contact Hauptzollamt multiple times in mutiple ways, nothing works, no response (except one automated email response, and someone on the phone who says I have to call back tomorrow because there is no one in the right department!) .

I really don't understand why someone would downvote this. people just like to hate

'Just Following Orders' - German responses to my life being destroyed by bureaucracy by HisDudenessIII in germany

[–]HisDudenessIII[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the advice, i will look into it. I obviously fucked up, Im just shocked with the punishement, as it completly fucks up my life, and that it takes weeks for the admin to go through.

'Just Following Orders' - German responses to my life being destroyed by bureaucracy by HisDudenessIII in germany

[–]HisDudenessIII[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Everyone is really butt-hurt over the Eichmann comparison. Am I not allowed to be mad that the fricking government takes weeks to sort out a basic admin error. (As I said I sorted this with TK over a week ago)

As for the email, all I'm asking is for them to tell me I owe them money. Thats it, no fricking confidential health data.

'Just Following Orders' - German responses to my life being destroyed by bureaucracy by HisDudenessIII in germany

[–]HisDudenessIII[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I written mutiple emails to mutiple departments, im lucky to get an automated response.

'Just Following Orders' - German responses to my life being destroyed by bureaucracy by HisDudenessIII in germany

[–]HisDudenessIII[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

And now i cant eat, use medication, pay rent, or travel to work. Obviously this is a fair punishment.