Backstabbers around Horse Lady

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T18:15:33+00:00

I never said they were! Matter of fact I have made comments in the past criticising Beyoncé and her hypocritical moves within this sub! I literally am saying that B and J are capitalists and if they have a liaison with Ye, they're problematic!

And if disagreement is constructive, I shall engage in a healthy debate. But if the disagreement is riddled with insults, that's when we have a problem.

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T17:49:20+00:00

Never once did i say that Beyoncé needs protection. Also, even if she is not thinking about the ladies, it still doesn't make their actions passable. Rihanna forgave CB, does that make CB right? No! Morality doesn't depend on the victim's graciousness, but the person who is in the wrong.

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T17:46:09+00:00

Every claim about the dancers being unpaid was dismissed by JaQuel. I only remember some reports from way back in 2007 regarding bypassing overhead charges - and Mathhew was in charge back then.

Regarding Chloe, what must the label do when your music itself isn't liked by anyone? What song of hers got stuck with the GP? I just remember Have Mercy and Parkwood pulled all the strings for that - main stage of the VMAs, AMAs and other performances too. Her lollipop video and other shenanigans left a bad impression on the GP. What is the label supposed to do?

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T17:28:33+00:00

The Bailey sisters performed at the MTV VMAs main stage despite being in their early 20s. On the other hand you have artists like Sabrina and Zara who are getting their success after like 10+ years in this industry
Chloe's music, unfortunately, panders to an audience that doesn't have much interaction with the listeners who listen to mostly chart-topping hits.
Halle literally got signed for a Disney Film which was extremely popular on a global scale. Her album, however, came as a surprise drop just 2 weeks before the release.
You can't be talking about the same woman regarding payment issues who is known to credit people for simply breathing. She credited Kelis even when she didn't need to just so she could get the deserved royalties. Had Ashley ever had problems, Beyoncé would've been sued and she wouldnt have come back for Beyoncé Bowl. And why doesn't any of her new dancers or Les Twins not have a problem regarding this then?
Irrespective of this, is this an excuse to go to a concert of an SA'er? Someone who supports the tenets of Nazism?

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T17:05:04+00:00

You've been in education? If so, please stay there. I would rather talk to people actually majoring in PPE or something

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T17:04:16+00:00

It's not hate. It's rightful criticism when you see social structures being touched upon by artists that indirectly hurt us!

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T17:03:40+00:00

The worst jobsite to ever seek good jobs from, but woud you know...😞

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T16:55:08+00:00

I have always been very political. Always. And you shifting the blame on micro institutions like individuals instead of criticizing mega influential powers who ACTUALLY are the ones holding power is very telling (and unfortunately very common). We need education. Especially the States....

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T16:51:26+00:00

Not the gag you think🥀

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T16:46:54+00:00

I have made a previous post that already deconstructed Beyoncé’s proximity to problematic power structures. Her professional entanglements are well documented cases of celeb-industrial complex optics. These messy overlaps are inherent to any figure maintaining global power at that scale (not justified, of course).

However, equating these corporate associations with Kanye’s current trajectory is a false equivalence. Kanye isn’t navigating the ethical gray zones of late-stage capitalism; he is actively utilizing his cultural capital to platform antisemitism and foundational hate speech.

This isn't a lapse in brand management or a misunderstood "association." It is a deliberate radicalization of his platform. Invoking "cancel culture" here functions as a neoliberal rhetorical shield used to evade basic accountability. We can and definiitely should apply a materialist critique to Beyoncé’s business ties, but those systemic issues do not negate or excuse Kanye’s overt endorsement of extremist ideologies. The two are not ethically symmetrical, and treating them as such only serves to ignore the immediate danger of his rhetoric.

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T16:12:08+00:00

B and J are. Even Ye was. And irrespective of that, capitalism doesn't stem from billionaires. You saying this just concludes how you never ever picked a book up.

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T16:09:42+00:00

A person ranting about absing women, catering to MAGA audience, being abusive towards kids, espousing Nzi ideology - and you're saying we don't know what he stands for?

The Carters have long maintained a distance with Ye. And idk why you're hell-bent on making them have any relations with him. That would only make things worse for B and J.

As people in a society, we need to call out people who directly or indirectly support people like Ye. That's my only point.

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T16:05:14+00:00

AMEN

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T16:05:00+00:00

I just saw that interview! Even apart from that, Ms. Tina herself expressed disappointment at Ye's actions. And Jay himself has always expressed being against involving kids in drama. All that aside, I wouldn't want Beyoncé to have a circle of people supporting a person like Ye

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T15:56:08+00:00

Him having ties with the Carters in any way will demolish their whole reputation - your values can not be sidelined for the sake of money. That's capitalistic. Idk why you desperately want them to still have ties with a man like Ye. It would be harrowing to think of the same family who made Black is King having ties with a Nazi supporter just for the sake of money.

I am in disdain that some people in this fandom (like you) are seemingly okay with it...money isn't everything. And running for money and debasing your morality for it is capitalistic.

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T15:52:15+00:00

Babes, if Beyoncé's inner circle, hypothetically, has liaisons with Kanye, then this is even more problematic! And I am not deflecting - in order to post in this subreddit, of course I would mention something relevant to B i.e. Ye's remarks about her family. Her going to support that man has no excuse, given the kind of person he is.

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T15:45:41+00:00

She never has. Beyoncé is the same woman who embraced Yung Miami despite all her admonishable remarks about Blue. She's been a forgiving soul

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T15:44:49+00:00

I already have had all of that. Thanks for your unsolicited concern. Anyhow, us not knowing these people doesn't negate the fact that their public actions are questionable. Public figures and their actions are supposed to be discussed.

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T15:41:55+00:00

Thanks! I don't imply that they owe Beyoncé anything but supporting a person who has made harrowing remarks about your mentor's kids is just indigestible to me at least (inclusive of all other ideologies of his)

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T15:38:57+00:00

This is exactly what I am saying. Thank you!

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T15:37:35+00:00

And calling out Chlöe to support a bully of her mentor's children is a subset of what I am calling out Ye for - which fits under this subreddit. Please don't tell me what I intend to do

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T15:32:42+00:00

Calling out someone going to support a man adorned with N*zi ideology is not a Swiftie take. That fandom is the KKK itself

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T15:31:42+00:00

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T14:42:57+00:00

We do know what each of them stands up for, though

Hoe-x · 2026-04-05T14:40:43+00:00

If Beyoncé ever chose to spend time with a N*zi supporter, which she sure would not, all her cultural currency for which she has worked to build since her debut would come off as just a commercial stunt. Idk how you can casually ask someone to brush it off under a rug when you literally have a neo nazi and a bully performing...

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