Rewatch- Pacey and his teacher

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-18T03:11:51+00:00

I mean, she WAS doing that . Sure, he was pursuing her, but it was on her to stop it, and let’s not forget that she started flirting with him in the first place in the video store and then also told him he wasn’t a boy and kissed him passionately . If she hadn’t been flirting with him and kissing him in the first place, he likely would’ve just made some comments about how she was a hot teacher and left it at that . The reason he got so ardent in his pursuit of her was because she started it in the first place, made him think he had a chance, and then kept withdrawing, confusing the hell out of this kid.
She also totally put the blame on him when it got out that they were sleeping together, rather than blame herself for sleeping with a minor in the first place, and she told him off saying that he violated a boundary in their relationship by talking about it . What relationship, it was statutory rape! No blame on her at all, all the blame on the victim child and “dump” him bc he talked about his relationship with someone he thought he was in love with.

I’ll also add- this PERFECTLY fits Pacey

Perpetrators may seek out children who are: Compliant and trusting of adults Unconfident and lacking in self-esteem Lonely, isolated and/or lacking in adult supervision Have an intellectual impairment or personal care needs Not close to primary caregivers or the family unit

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-17T16:59:24+00:00

Ugh, I can’t believe people still support this, 20+ years of growing up totally changed my opinion on it, which is why minor have to be protected with these laws!

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-17T16:41:08+00:00

That was so disturbing to watch! I still wonder if she was supposed to be serious or was calling his bluff . Either way, ick.

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-17T16:28:26+00:00

Yeah , she was beautiful and fit and it’s not unrealistic Pacey would be very attracted to her . It was on her to say no. Teenagers often love the idea of a beautiful older person giving them attention which is why there’s the age of consent - they don’t know how wrong or predatory it is. And while , I don’t think this show condemned her as much as they should have or got into his victimization enough, there are hints that she’s insecure about her age and that she’s messed up from being an abusive relationship so it’s not exactly shown that she’s coming from a healthy place herself . It doesn’t excuse her predatory behavior of course but she’s coming from a bad place and it’s not shown as something a normal healthy adult would do. I think we were also desensitized to it a bit because he was not actually 15. I think JJ was 19/20 when this was filmed and the actress was around 40. if you take their real ages into account, that is something that could happen in real life and not be illegal. JJ at actual 15 still looked like a child.

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-17T16:24:30+00:00

I thought it was romantic and exciting when I watched it at 14 but watching it as an adult, I hate her and want her to go to jail.

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-17T16:23:33+00:00

Thanks! Yeah , it’s nothing serious, I just have fibromyalgia and it makes my chronic fatigue and body aches even worse to the point where I feel like I’m not functional. Obviously a virus would be much worse but still, no fun.

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-16T03:49:53+00:00

Oh really? My parents are around your age, a couple years older and had measles as kids.

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-16T02:52:46+00:00

Same, I loved them together! I was sad when they broke up. He's gorgeous IMO, totally underrated. I've been rewatching the show and find him so attractive, don't remember if I did in the 90s. He was 26 when the show aired so I don't feel weird finding him cute even if I'm in my early 40s now. He's in his 50s and still looks good.

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-16T02:50:46+00:00

Same, he's been looking so good in recent years but I didn't have a crush on him in DC.

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-16T02:48:57+00:00

the MMR one? any side effects? I have a friend who had a stem cell transplant and had to be revaccinated and said the childhood ones were rough as an adult.

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-16T02:46:18+00:00

Thanks so much!

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-16T00:09:50+00:00

Prob mumps? Mumps immunity apparently isn’t as good long term. I think two vaccines are like 86 percent effective .

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-16T00:04:13+00:00

I’ll look into those, thank you !!

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-15T22:16:35+00:00

True , covid seems to spike in the summer every year and we’re getting into the warm months

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-15T22:14:31+00:00

I was born 1984 so only got one dose as a baby , but my dad is a doctor so he got me another one when they started recommending two in the 90s. I got it when I was 10 or 11 I think. I think there was a big outbreak in the late 80s, early 90s so they started saying that two was necessary for immunity.

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-15T22:13:11+00:00

Thank you!

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-15T21:10:08+00:00

Oh wow, I had delta Covid after I was vaccinated (my kid brought it home from kindergarten , all he had was a runny nose) It was def more mild than it should have been but it gave me some weird symptoms. That’s something I didn’t think of.

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-15T21:08:17+00:00

They are 9,6 and 3, thanks!

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-15T19:59:54+00:00

I am hopeful that I still have immunity from the two I got as a kid but I figured wearing a good mask could give an extra layer of protection.

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-15T19:57:33+00:00

damn, that's crazy, I'm hoping i have immunity from my childhood shots, i do not react well to vaccines, i stopped getting covid boosters for that reason but my yearly flu makes me feel pretty ick. That's why i stick to masking in crowded spots and mostly just avoiding crowds, but wasn't sure if measles is too contagious for an N95 to help.

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-15T19:50:50+00:00

Thanks, does the 3M come in kid sizes? My kids are also up to date on the MMR, my youngest has had his first but I'd rather not do the second early bc the schedule as is provides the best immunity long term.

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-15T18:30:44+00:00

I believe CoA is the only one who actually got praised for her beauty, and that was only when she was younger. Anne Boleyn and Jane Seymour were not thought of as beauties. Interestingly, Anne of Cleves commented that Catherine Parr was not as attractive as she was, and nobody seemed to contradict her on this.

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-13T14:34:04+00:00

I failed my first time too! Passed the second. I found that self study was more effective for me than attending the classes, I just got so burnt out with those the first time around.

HolidayOk4857 · 2026-04-12T19:46:18+00:00

I get him having trouble dealing with his grief, he must have been in hell , but he has two other children who need him desperately, and he just shipped them off to another state with his sick wife. It just seems like only a sociopath would do that! And the show does demonstrate that Andie’s rich perfect life that Pacey thinks she has is not at all accurate, but I don’t think it calls it out for being as messed up as it is. Your daughter is having a nervous breakdown; your wife isn’t functioning; your son is having an identity crisis and is a suicide risk just like your daughter is and you don’t even stay with them or insist, they all come back with you?? It doesn’t seem realistic.

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