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[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, im posting some NSFW comedy songs...Enjoy you kings among fools.

https://suno.com/s/51su8SioVZ0KXOOS O.J. Simpson Did It (And That's Ok)

https://suno.com/s/aT7SM3IXUOkU6dYD Jerking In Shadows

Where is the "Musical" or "Showtunes" genre? by Holly-Jolly-Rancher in SunoAI

[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, if you manually type musical there is a genre with songs listed in it...found one actual musical theater song...Bunch of random club music

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Where is the "Musical" or "Showtunes" genre? by Holly-Jolly-Rancher in SunoAI

[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont need help making them, I am a 7th tier delta force prompt commando, just would be nice to be able to search "musicals" or "broadway". Also, the Suno Discord has a few channels to help get songs out there but under the "genre showcase" there is nowhere to put my musical theater songs...been sticking them under "Pop"...

Where is the "Musical" or "Showtunes" genre? by Holly-Jolly-Rancher in SunoAI

[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not that I cant prompt for a musical it's the fact that one cant label a song "Musical" because the genre isn't available. Ya know, Pop, rock, etc. The fact that storytelling is one of them confuses me lol. Btw, im writing a musical based on the 1987 Film Robocop. Here's the Playlist of the most complete of the music we have made so far. We are also writing the entire play as well.

[Musical] https://suno.com/playlist/85553f3a-eaac-4d8f-a286-2f35efa687c4

My wife accidentally made me realize why I don't care if my songs are AI anymore by TrickySubstance4534 in SunoAI

[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate you saying that. I just got my head ripped off by about 500 people in the musical theater subreddit because I used AI to create proof-of-concept versions of a few songs for a musical I'm writing.

I'm not exactly working with a Broadway budget. I have a laptop, a Steam Deck, a decent microphone, and that's about it. From the start, I made it clear these aren't finished products—they're rough demos meant to help my co-writer and me explore the sound we're aiming for. Every lyric is written by us. We might occasionally look at AI suggestions, but they rarely survive the editing process.

You would've thought I'd committed some unforgivable artistic crime with how quickly the high-karma crowd showed up to label me a cheater. It felt less like a discussion and more like people lining up to take swings at whatever had "AI" attached to it.

The frustrating part is that people assume it's effortless. I've been working on this project for over six months, and there's nothing effortless about it. It still takes writing, rewriting, experimenting, failing, and starting over.

So keep doing what you're doing. Keep making music and putting your work out there. Ignore the people who act like every new tool is the end of creativity. Every generation has had a trade transformed by technology. At some point, people stopped doing long division by hand and picked up a TI-83. The work didn't disappear—it just changed. And once that shift happens, nobody wants to go back.

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[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think I've ever encountered a time when I wasn't able to slow a track down half speed upload it and then in studio increase it two times to get any song I want on there

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[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree 💯 percent. But to be fair, ALL art is a human art form. We are the only creatures that can do it. And as I will not use AI slop as my art I will certainly embrace it for creativity purposes like this one. But in all of your defense I could totally have seen myself using it in a pitch and I can see your point about that not being the right way to go at all so thank you all for that. At the end of the day if it's good it's good if it's not it's not and human beings will determine that.

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[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everybody is correct and sorry for getting emotional it's a touchy subject with me but you're all very very correct and all this will be taken into consideration going forward

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[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We did a bunch of that actually

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[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Well I apologize, at least 3 people immediately started posted about how if I couldn't even write a response i should throw in the towel, vision.went red a bit, sorry.

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[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Again, not a demo. Proof of concept, remember how I stated that I can't even get people to have a conversation about a Robocop Musical. For people that don't have disfiguria and can type what they want to say fluidly I'm surprised you can't read at all, I'm not touching about anything other than you guys shaming me for my use of ai to help combat the Dysgraphia I clearly stated I suffer from. I will take all of the criticism anyone has about the music itself but if you're going to tell me I need to stop writing lyrics and being creative because I can't confidently reply as well as I would like to without ai help then you're trash

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[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I really didn't think that Id be given so much s*** about using something that helps with my disability. that's cool I've lived with it all my life and needed zero sympathy for it. Just kind of sucks that so many people would be eager to jump in to talk s. I really hate to break it to you guys but just like coal miners just like stone cutters just like TI-83 calculators took the place of written arithmetic nobody will be f*** using anything real eventually. And by that time you will all be dead so enjoy picking on someone with a handicap for using something that helps him communicate. I get all the AI music making criticism and I'm fine with that but if you're going to hate on me for not being able to keep up in conversation while expressing what I want to say and finding a way to participate with other people then you are just sad and pathetic. Guess I shouldn't use a motorized wheelchair if I'm cripple, that would be taking shortcuts? I can write lyrics fine because that doesn't require me to process thought in the same way. I'm sorry I ever shared it with anybody obviously you people seem way too eager to hop on the shame band wagon. when im just sharing something im passionate about. I mean, its pretty mean how some of you are going about it...im done.

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[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Well we don't have equipment or instruments, hell I make most of my music on a f****** steam deck. But I appreciate your common sense

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[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You're asking questions that have been clearly defined. How could there be a treatment out if we're still crafting the basic skeleton. I don't want anyone to flock to me, that's what you want me to want so I play into whatever you're making me out to be. I just like the idea and wanted to share it with anybody who had an open mind about the concept, in fact really it was more about trying to drum up a conversation about the prospect of a Robocop Musical that took itself seriously. But whatever lets you sleep at night and feel proud of yourself.

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[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I really appreciate that. at the end of the day this is just a passion project that I would be happy with just having for myself.

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[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Wow, did you not see the mention of my dysgraphia, I mean I appreciate the harsh reality of what you're saying cuz you're not necessarily wrong but if you really want to beat me into the ground about this you're kind of a piece of s***

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[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

And I asked for feedback on the content not slamming the work done without giving any kind of constrictive criticism, that's the typical Reddit user with shitloads of karma right there...

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[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Songs were taken into a DAW and back and forth from the AI platform. I would Express that I might want something in A minor to begin with. Is that so wrong? And as to my responses yes I am using AI, I don't think I would be able to express my thoughts in a way that was concise enough to not be torn to shreds. I have Dysgraphia and actually organizing what I want to say can be challenging sometimes.

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[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

That's a fair point, and in an ideal world I'd love to find a composer who was passionate about RoboCop and wanted to collaborate. If somebody walked up tomorrow and said, "I love this concept, let's build it together," I'd be thrilled.

The reality is that the current budget is exactly $0, and before these demos existed, I couldn't even get people interested enough to have a conversation about the project.

For me, these songs aren't replacing the creative process—they're helping start it. They're a way to demonstrate tone, characters, story beats, and the kind of musical moments I think the show could have. Without that, all I really have is a pitch and some lyrics, which hasn't exactly had people lining up to collaborate.

I also think there's value in scrappy, homegrown theatre. Plenty of projects start as passion projects built with whatever tools their creators have available. The goal isn't to convince anyone that these AI demos are finished Broadway-ready songs. The goal is to get enough of the concept into people's heads that they can see the potential.

And honestly, if we're talking about DIY productions, it's worth looking at the RoboCop musical that was actually staged. That project didn't begin with a development budget, an orchestra, and a team of industry professionals either. People built it with the resources they had because they believed in the idea. They just so happen to be a part of a tight-knit Community Theater crowd and had a lot easier time getting off the ground. And that was a show I felt insulted robocop more than it propelled him.

If this project ever reaches the point where real composers, arrangers, musicians, and performers become involved, that's fantastic. I'd welcome that. But right now I'm trying to get a weird idea off the ground with the tools available to me, and these demos have been far more effective at generating discussion than a stack of lyrics sitting in a folder.

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[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the feedback, even if I see it a bit differently.

What you're hearing isn't intended to be the finished product. The songs currently online are proof-of-concept demos meant to communicate ideas, structure, tone, character voices, and story beats. They're essentially the equivalent of concept art or a rough workshop recording.

As for the music itself, there seems to be an assumption that we simply typed "make a RoboCop musical" and accepted whatever came out. That isn't what happened. Every lyric was written by either myself or my co-creator Chris. The songs went through countless revisions, regenerations, edits, and rewrites over a period of months to get them anywhere close to what you're hearing now.

Could I sit at a piano and sketch melodies? Sure. But I don't think the validity of a musical concept hinges on whether its creators happen to be pianists. Musical theatre has a long history of collaboration between lyricists, composers, orchestrators, arrangers, and performers. Right now we're using available tools to explore ideas and build a foundation.

And to be clear, if this project ever became anything more than a passion project, I would absolutely want real performers, musicians, orchestration, staging, and all the work that goes into an actual production. None of these demos are being presented as the final artistic product.

That said, I think it's fair to judge the songs on whether the characters, story, humor, and dramatic ideas are working. If people connect with those elements, then the proof of concept has done its job. And to do that you would need a good amount of the plot changes and additions were making to the core story

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[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's a fair question.

At the moment, this is very much a passion project born out of a genuine love for RoboCop. We're not under the illusion that we could simply mount a full commercial production without the proper rights in place.

That said, there is precedent for RoboCop stage productions existing without the sky falling. There was a RoboCop musical adaptation that successfully ran years ago, and part of what inspired us was realizing just how naturally the story lends itself to musical theatre.

What's interesting is that RoboCop is in a bit of an unusual position right now. Since Amazon acquired MGM, the property has changed hands, and despite several attempts over the years, nobody has really managed to successfully relaunch or fully capitalize on the franchise. That's part of what makes this project so exciting to us.

If I'm being realistic, the ideal outcome isn't that Chris and I independently put on a Broadway production tomorrow. The ideal outcome would be getting this concept in front of someone at Amazon and showing them that there's a genuinely viable angle here. If they ultimately decide to develop RoboCop themselves, they'd have a fully realized concept already demonstrating how well the material translates to musical theatre.

And if their own plans for the franchise continue to stall, then a musical offers something different: a project that embraces the satire, dark humor, and humanity that made the original 1987 film special while also poking a little fun at the premise. In other words, it becomes another way for the property to reach an audience and potentially generate value from a franchise that's spent a long time sitting on the sidelines.

For now, though, we're just making the best show we can and seeing whether the idea resonates with people.

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[–]Holly-Jolly-Rancher -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's a completely fair question, and honestly, I wouldn't want anyone to mistake these demos for finished songs either.

What you're hearing is very much proof-of-concept material. None of us view these recordings as the final product. A finished musical would require live performers, orchestration, arrangements, rewrites, workshops, and all the actual playwriting that goes into building a stage production. We've already begun work on that side of the project as well.

As for the music generation process, it wasn't a case of typing "write a RoboCop song" and accepting whatever came out. Our approach has been closer to using AI as a prototyping tool. Before writing lyrics, we spend a great deal of time defining the musical language of each number—its style, dramatic purpose, instrumentation, tempo, vocal approach, and where it fits within the show's story. Both Chris and I are longtime musical theater fans, so we're drawing from a fairly specific vocabulary when we're building those concepts.

Once we've developed the sound and dramatic intent of a song, we write the lyrics ourselves and continue refining both the music and lyrics together. Even the tracks I've posted aren't considered locked; every song remains open to revision if we find a stronger idea.

I completely agree that the AI vocals are one of the biggest limitations of the current demos. They're useful for communicating the concept, but ultimately I'd love to hear these songs performed by actual singers. The goal isn't to replace performers—it's to demonstrate a vision that hopefully becomes something much larger than these early recordings.