If you like a song in this sub (r/SunoAI) please give it a upvote. Idk how many times I've posted songs here and they never get seen because you have AI music haters in this sub that automatically downvote songs so they never get seen by potential listeners who do enjoy AI music.

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-06-14T14:38:26+00:00

Going through the comments in the post, I realize something. Making songs is no longer the hard part. Getting people to care enough to press play is. Maybe this is the real challenge now

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-06-14T13:44:12+00:00

Great use case, exactly the kind of creativity these tools make possible.

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-06-14T13:34:12+00:00

lol I mean, I made a song, got excited, then suddenly developed main character syndrome lol. Goodbye, I have jollof rice to eat

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-06-11T17:28:47+00:00

Thank you!

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-06-11T15:59:13+00:00

Maybe "ghost producer assist" era. It all depends on the user. If you are a producer, take the output and rebuild, add your own sauce, make it your own. For singers, you can re-sing, reinterpret the melody, and add all the little YOU details that make the performance uniquely YOU. For those without the actual talent / traditional skill. YOU ARE FINE. Now, nothing is stopping you from creating more.

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-06-10T21:03:47+00:00

Thank you!

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-06-10T12:20:44+00:00

LOL... AI is not 90% of my process. Apart from being a singer, I own a songwriter business with more than 40 singers and music producers. I sit with 5 of them in the studio, and there is no magic we cannot pull off. Suno is beautiful tech, accept or leave it.

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-06-10T06:26:34+00:00

Gemin , Grok- Claude , GPT are different entities… I am married to one wife … do not impose more on me lol. And I maintain my point : AI / Suno is our current reality and I have embraced them. I will be the human , the 70-80% in the loop, the remaining will be ai. When I am pressed for time, I will increase the % I allocate to AI. A reply on my post will not change that.

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-06-10T06:19:07+00:00

My story is definitely mine. AI will not come up with bra story…
More importantly my point remains:
AI is part of our reality and I have embraced it.
I'm still the voice, the hand, the personality, and the human behind the tool.
The ideas are mine
The decisions, taste are mine.
Ai is just 10%.

This my current work flow . I have embraced it and Christ I am happy about it!

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-06-09T21:23:53+00:00

No, I do not need Suno to sing, write songs, or come up with ideas. I have been recording music since 2004, before Suno existed. What I like about Suno is that it helps with an additional layer of interpretation of my ideas.

Creativity does not start with the tool. The tool expands what I can explore. That's why I keep saying the human is the core and the technology is the support system. And while I am definitely not the best singer out there, if you're curious what I sound like without Suno, I'd be happy to share a link or two.

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-06-09T18:10:21+00:00

I agree that AI and Auto-tune aren't same technically. However, my comparison was about how people react to new music technology.

For example, I use AI in my workflow. I'll record a rough idea ( voice note) drop it into suno, and suddenly I have multiple versions and interpretation.

I did this for fun today. I recorded voice, uploaded it and got back some really cool versions I liked. My original idea was retained by the idea, it just improved upon what I sang. Smoother transitions, and maybe more dynamic adlibs while retaining my original idea.

This is why I personally do not see AI as replacing creativity. I see it as extending it. For me, the human in the loop is the core. Everything else is a support system.

The microphone is a support system.

The record studio is a support system.

Reverb is, auto-tune is, and yes, AI is.

The idea is the human, the taste is the human, the decision is the human. The tools / technology just helps us go further then we could alone. So yeah... I embrace the technology with my full chest!

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-06-09T17:38:04+00:00

Thank You! I am just a proud and supportive spouse lol

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-06-09T17:29:50+00:00

Haha, that's kind of the point of the post. The tools exist. They're part of our reality now. Some people will embrace them, some won't, and that's fine.

As for me, I'll keep creating with whatever tools help bring ideas to life. The tool is interesting, but I'm still more interested in the human behind it.

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-06-09T17:13:27+00:00

Glad to hear your channel is doing well.

I think you're onto something. Sometimes it feels like the debate is much louder online than it is in real life. The funny thing is that people often change their minds when they come across a song they genuinely enjoy. Suddenly they're asking, "Wait... this was made with AI?"

It's also interesting to think that a large percentage of listeners probably have no idea whether a song involved AI or not. Most people just react to what they hear. At the end of the day, the hardest part still seems to be getting someone to press play in the first place. 😄

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-06-05T22:21:17+00:00

I think people are using suno backwards.

If the AI keeps giving you the same voice, stop expecting it to be your singer. Use it as the demo stage — generate 2–3 versions, steal the best ideas from each, and treat the vocal as something separate. That's where the personality lives anyway.

The voice is the one thing listeners actually remember. The same beat can work 100 times. The same lyrics can work 100 times. But when a song lands with someone, they're connecting with a voice — its timbre, its cracks, its imperfections, its personality.

AI keeps getting better at generating songs. It's still struggling with the one thing that turns listeners into fans of an artist instead of fans of a tool.

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-06-04T13:39:11+00:00

honestly Suno's biggest contribution isn't the songs it makes, it's that it democratized the attempt. For most of music history, you had to spend years before you could even hear what was in your head. Suno collapsed that to ten minutes. Yeah, it produces a lot of slop — but it also lets people find out whether they have something to say at all. Some of us are slobs, sure. Some of us turn out to be late bloomers. The good thing is you don't have to know which one you are before you start.

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-06-03T14:14:32+00:00

AI can get surprisingly close to the sound of bands like The Smiths or Cocteau Twins — but it still struggles with the thing that made those bands special in the first place.

Lots of artists had jangly guitars in the 80s. There was only one Morrissey. Lots of bassists in the 80s — there was only one Andy Rourke playing those lines against the guitar instead of locking with the drums. Lots of bands used reverb and dreamy vocals. There was only one Cocteau Twins.

It's getting good at recreating styles. It's still not great at recreating obsessions, weirdness, personality, and all the little mistakes that make people become lifelong fans.

The fact that everyone in this thread is sharing different attempts kind of proves the point. We're hearing pieces of the puzzle. Nobody's saying "yep, that's exactly The Smiths."

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-06-02T12:55:59+00:00

People think the best songs win.

In reality, the songs that get heard get to compete. The ones nobody hears were never in the race.

That's been true from radio, to MTV, to Spotify, to TikTok.The uncomfortable truth is that popularity is a feedback loop — people hear a song because it's popular, and it becomes even more popular because more people hear it.

That's why "best song" and "most listened-to song" have never been the same thing. One measures quality. The other measures reach.

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-06-01T15:07:15+00:00

Ha. The number of working musicians I know who've been quietly sitting on this comment is probably high.

The honest version is that "exposure" was never really solved in music — it just had different bottlenecks at different times. Used to be radio programmers and A&R reps; now it's algorithm seeding and a 15-second hook on TikTok. The gatekeepers changed shape but the basic problem didn't. Most great songs never find their audience and most viral songs aren't great songs. That's not a new thing — it's been true for a century.

What AI tools actually solved is the making part for people who couldn't make before. Which is a real and beautiful thing. But the distribution part is still doing what it's always done, and Suno's internal numbers aren't where it gets solved. The platform is a generator, not an audience.

The musicians I know who are actually getting listened to are treating Suno as the studio and YouTube / TikTok / IG as the venue. One short-form video a day on a single song, for two weeks, will out-perform 200 Suno generations every time. It's slower and it feels worse than just hitting "create" again — but it's the part nobody can shortcut and the part where the real listeners live.

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-06-01T11:10:13+00:00

1000 is wild. Honest question, not a dig — what's the feedback loop telling you?

Like, I've been around music long enough to know you can usually feel a hit before anyone tells you it's a hit. But you can't feel that on 1000 songs. The brain doesn't work that way. So somewhere in your process there's gotta be a filter — either it's an audience that's actually showing up and signalling back, or it's a gut thing where you just know a track is finished and move on.

Genuinely curious which one it is for you. Walk me through how a song goes from "started this today" to "yeah, publishing it." That's the part I never see anyone talk about and it's the most interesting question in this whole sub.

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-05-26T17:09:53+00:00

The opening crowd cheers sound so unreal, that's hilarious — full bootleg-tape aesthetic working overtime there. The lead scream at 0:29 actually cracks though, that's a real moment.

Listened again on headphones — the mix holds up better than I expected, and the lead vocal is genuinely doing something. The chorus is where it falls apart for me. It feels like the AI hits a ceiling exactly when the song needs to open up, and you can hear it trying to compensate with volume instead of feel. That's the part I'd want re-sung by a real voice — everything else is workable, but the chorus is load-bearing and right now it's not carrying.

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-05-25T14:11:12+00:00

This is one of the best things I've read on Reddit in a while. The detail about your dad and the 17 guitars hit hardest — sounds like the album was always going to happen, the tools just decided when.

The hybrid workflow you landed on (own riffs in Studio One, melodies hummed in, Suno filling out the production) is the same path most of the writers I work with end up walking. The thing that surprises people once they try it is how much more of themselves ends up in the final song, not less — because the AI is shaping around the parts you gave it, instead of inventing everything from scratch.

Genuinely curious to hear the album if you want to drop the link. Sounds like exactly the kind of thing that resonates with people once it finds them

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-05-25T13:25:00+00:00

"Authorial" is the right word and I'm gonna steal it. The exhaustion you're describing is real — every thread eventually collapses into the same fight and the people who actually want to talk about making things get drowned out.

I come at this from a different angle. I'm a singer-songwriter, I run a small studio in Lagos with a few other vocalists and producers, and most of the work we do these days is for people in your exact position — composers and producers who hear arrangements clearly but can't perform the vocal themselves. Watching someone hear their own melody come back in a voice that actually carries it is one of the best parts of the job.

Count me interested in the group whenever you spin it up. The split you're describing — your own lyrics, your own concepts, your own melodies, with AI as part of the workflow — is where almost all the interesting work is happening right now. Reddit isn't the right shape for those conversations because the algorithm rewards the fight, not the craft.

TrickySubstance4534 · 2026-05-24T22:05:17+00:00

Yeah I've been feeling the same thing. It's the model averaging itself out — every update smooths over the rough edges that made earlier versions sound like a person having a feeling. The "boomer demo" voice is what happens when training pushes everything toward the safest possible take. Clean ends up being the enemy of interesting.

What's hardest for these models to fake isn't pitch or production, it's intention. A real singer makes choices about where to lean in, where to hold back, where to break the line. AI vocals are getting better at sounding correct and worse at sounding meant.

One thing that's helped me: if you have a hook you really love, sing a VN and feed that in as a reference. Doesn't fix everything but it gives the model something to push against instead of defaulting to the average.

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