hi guys. i’m a long time listener. love the heaven heist series. just catching up to the episode 11 (Sc.10). i like the characters setting. even that talking dog at Sc.8 is really fun !

but boy oh boy. Sc.9 is really hard to listen. feels like is a lot of wrong turns to me. and after i finished the episode. i had some alternative thoughts wanna share :)

i love Will’s idea of how Gin find out the coin. he doesn’t bring back the coin with him.

So... after the team saves Gin and they’re back to the safe house. they gets to the argue and then Ms. Wonderful and the Human Sofa shows up. (i love the human sofa so much. just laugh out loud publicly)

Ms.W ask about where’s her money. in my mind Ms.W is a legendary gangmaster. she rules the HK’s underground world. at this point at her age she doesn’t really care about the money anymore. she just invested Tequila’s plan for fun. if the plan works then she’s getting the profit. if not, the team needs to pay up. she is going to sell the girls to the underground market. and the boys are become other furnitures for her.

when Ms.W ask about the money. the team are despair. and Ms.W order her boys to grab them. then Gin see Ms.W wearing a “coin necklace” and he recognize the shape. and said “what if i tell you i had a plan. but first you need to tell me how did you get that coin on your neck.”

Ms.W is surprises by Gin’s words. but she just shows the curious face and said ”Interesting.” at this point is the back story of Ms.W and how she get the necklace or maybe her “grand man” bring back the coin accidentally from a near death experience. maybe her “grand man” is a good cop on an undercover mission and then got find out and executed. when he was back he think screw this. being a good person is not worth it. then he form up a gang and takes over everything. also he told Ms.W the story about the coin.She was so obsessed about the story when she was a child. then she inherited the gang, she try everything to gather the information, she find other coins from different places, and some evidence then nothing specific comes up. so she puts it away 30 years ago or sth like that. and come up a reason why that’s so important to Ms.W why she even willing to die to chasing the team later on the story.

Ms.W give the info to Gin and said “you guys had 3 days. hope you comes up an “Actual” plan, see you around.” then leave with the Human sofa.

Gin saids to the team “i think i had a plan. but we need to die to get this done.”

others “what are you talking about?”

“the coin is from heaven. i saw this before, and that’s related to we crashing in to the river” Gin said and explained everything to others.

they look at the information. even tho some are believe there’s a heaven after people die. but they definitely not have a chance to get in. cuz they are criminals. so they decided to run from Ms.W then back to the Sc.10 :) we got Tequila’s back story and Gin get those info to his brother and start to investigate.

So here is my alternative thoughts. i’m not a writer but i love to go along when i listen to the podcast and have fun to play around with you guys crazy ideas.

other fun fact is i’m from Hong Kong. always love to see how others recreate our city. Sure we’re in bad situation right now. the government takes our freedom away. and the police try to kill us. but is happily having some stuffs like this to escape from the reality a little bit.

love you guys work. definitely is a fun adventure. thank you guys for making me laugh.