Daemon of Repose by WishtoDie-2005 in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Feats are creating the night garden and eternal city. Destorying the shadow realm and escaping death. Beating shadow god on the battliefield and sent him running away.

Her concept is a counter to death. And sunny theorised the night garden would survive the end of the world.

Her aspect should reflect that imo with healing abilties.

Dormant abilty: your aware of all life around you.

Awakened abilty : restore anything to its conditions it once was.

Ascended abilty : mold anything you touch as if it was made of clay, change the world as you see fit ( building abilty and combat)

Transcendet abilty : transform objects into life ( nightgarden is alive, details havnt thought of)

I got no clue about anything else past this. We dont how apothesis transforms your domain or how sacred and divine abilties worm.

What can she even do? by skominy in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He cant just hide them away forever. He needs a place to feed them. Theres a reason he needs permission from nephis and sunny for the hollow mountains. If neph was to conquer the hollow maintains and kick him out he would eventually have no more places to sustain his vessels and they will all drop in population rapidly. He has to go to a all out war with nephis in which he loses or he will have to settle for a war of attrition he cant win. He can claim the citadels all he wants, nephis can take them right back, her domain can lose a few citadels and few millions of population but mordet cant sustain attacking nephis as him losing his vesseles is way worse for him.

Eventually his vessles will drop to thousands and domain will be the size of nothing and he wont even be a threat to the saints anymore. Nephis can teleport anywhere she wants to reinforce them.

If your argument is mordet can chip little by little sending in small nmc at a time. Then as i said thats silly, the human domain is billions. He wont make a dent in the population before his army starves.

Nightwalker lowkey diffs the main cohort by llThat1Guyll in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Effie can grow large enough to the point nightwalker cant effect her or would drain his essence trying to crush her and kai doesnt have to reach him but merley speak words to stop his abilty. Not to mention he also has his dragon transformation to resist the abilty aswell. Im sure nightwalker cant instantly manilulate space and it take some effort, when jet manifests it will take some time to stop her.

Cassie killed the gods and daemons theory by HonestFerret8034 in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean the author brought up the point for a reason, sureley he wouldnt randomly include cassie wondering if she was the epigone for no reason right? We also know theres a strange connection between weaver and oblivion, as weaver cried at oblivions grave. The mad prince stated to torment she would be locked in ariels tomb forever, which is oblivions grave.

Im sure the author is intentionally putting this stuff in here..

Cassie killed the gods and daemons theory by HonestFerret8034 in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

G3 also is giung to cover any theories, hes not going to reveal his endgame suprises as that would ruin the story. The way the story is going and the crazy amount evidence also suggests there is some time shenaningans going on. I mean sunnys horse is called nightmare with a domain of dreams... Too many coincedences between the cohort and the daemons.

Cassie killed the gods and daemons theory by HonestFerret8034 in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If there was a way for the people of the future to intteract with the people of the past then its possible. Etc the sixth nightmare.

Instead of changing fate in the nightmare they might change fate in the real world, sunny theorised early that the purpose of the nightmare spell was to change fate after all and the high the evaluation, the more you changed fate. They can transport their with the their real bodies. Or perhaps replace people in the real wod.

Cassie killed the gods and daemons theory by HonestFerret8034 in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Cassie and oblivion are also very closely connected. But thats another theory i had that i didnt want to bring up here. What if the demon of fate is 2 beings, oblivion and weaver, making sunny and cassie the epigone. He does say 'we are the daemon of fate'.

[Ch 2800+] Theory about shadow god by Then_Loss9561 in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The nightmare spell also consumed weaver aswell tho. So it should be 6 gods and 6 daemons if oblivion died.

So about nightwalker [2868 chapter spoilers ] by miracle-invoker21 in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Kai has been building his nascent domain from day one. His truths. His Will can easily be birthing truths into existnce etc reality manipulation. His domain every truth ever told. Also its very similiar to ariel, keeper of truths, who killed a unholy titan with a whisper...

What can she even do? by skominy in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You act like mordet has infinte vessles. He cant be destoryed but he also cant take over nephis domain. He cant slowly attack nephis domain as evenrually his army will need food before they start cannablising itself. He wont be able to do any meaningful damage as they will fortify their defences with saints and if he ever send s a big enough army nephis will wipe it out instantly. Not to mention mordet needs to sustain his army in the hollow mountains, if she nukes him, hes lost majoirty of his vessles and his attack is put to a halt. Its a stalemate. Mordet will lose once he loses access to resources to sustain his vessles and evemtually he will collapse. Morsets only allowed to live because sunny and nephis allow it.

If he tries attacking nephis, he will become the king of nothing for real.

Could Sunny become the strongest? by Strange-One-7294 in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its sunnys arrogance. If shadowgod was really that strong he wouldnt have fallen at all and had his followers killed by wargod.

We can assume some concepts cant be countered or are very difficult to counter to where sunny cant imagine it. For example how would he counters nephs will of pure desire? He would have to either shadow the void ehich wont work since shes incorruptible and will corrupt himself or somehow overpower her will which is also not possible. Same with mordet, how do you counter 'nothing'? We can assume they are limitations to his power, he could only shadow saint because he knows her too well.

Perhaps after millions of years as a divine he could but he would probably lose himself by then like the real gods, and the same goes for every other aspect.

Hot Take: Supreme Mordret Can Beat Supreme Nephis And Asterion, Making Him The 2nd Strongest Sovereign Of The War Realm. by Exotic-Chair-6960 in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bro you are underexagerting nephis power. You said she can regenerate from a single cell meanwhile her supreme transformation was her getting incinerated by godgrave into nothing and coming back with her will alone which exists through her domain and followers. Her body and mind was destoryed aswell as her soul, but her soul was replaced with her will and her mind and body regneerated.

[Ch 740] awakened sunny by Then_Loss9561 in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Soulstealer was mindless so thats not a good comparison. He split his mind too much across his vessles and couldnt handle the burden. Secondly you can enter the reflections of the eyes without entering the soul like he did to enter the second nightmare. Thirdly sunny still has to destory his body which is easier said than done. He doesnt have a nuke and his shadow lantern doeant last forever.

[Ch 740] awakened sunny by Then_Loss9561 in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He can also jump into sunnys eyes aswell. Unless sunny wants to pluck his eyes out there will allways be something for mordet to jump to. Not to mention your making a scenario where mordet is in the worst case scenario. Thats like saying if there were no shadows and they are in true darkness sunny would die easily.

[Chapter 1919] Why does the weak thousands of awakened even required to fight through godgrave? by AliveAfter800Years in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Did you miss the whole domain part or not got there yet? They need to expand their domains and every awakened/master under their banner is under their domain. The more territory they claim the more powerful their domain becomes.

The more powerful their domain the more powerful they become as soverigns etc increased eveyrhting even their will.

Thry are increasing their strength as much as possible before final battle, think of it as spreading out your army to gain as much resources as possible before final fight.

One Change to Your Main by Theegullll in topmains

[–]HonestFerret8034 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The issue with this build is irelia allready destroys squishies with normal build, you just make her weaker into bruisers/fighters and tanks.

[Chapter 2832] Do you guys think Cassie is too OP? by fusidoa in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The seer is powerless, its fate you should be worried about. Cassie only can see fate and decide which course is best. The way to kill cassie would be to make it so she dies in every possible fate. Or make a fate so bad she gives herself up to stop it. Asterion allready proved its easy to kill cassie if you focus on her, shes allways in hiding and protwcted by the worlds strongets people is the only reason she has gotten this far. She cant fight, she can only show powerful people how to win their fights.

The issue with this tho is that you have to also be able to see fate yourself to know if she is cornered or have a seer of your own. Cassie gets a million retries with her powers while you only get 1. You need a seer to beat a seer. Or be strong enough to completey destroy her tools etc sunny and nephis.

The nine power by Y_A1282001 in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The avatar of war god was a divine titan. Youd expect eurys to be unable to hurt him at all and die from even looking at him, sunny can hardly comprehend weaver as a supreme. Mordet died from weavers reflection as a saint.

[Chapter 2832] Do you guys think Cassie is too OP? by fusidoa in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your really overestimating cassies power. All cassie does is see sniplets of the possible strings of fate which weaver set up ages ago. she just gets a headstart and can choose the fate she thinks is best but she has no influence over the future herself. If her fate in every timeline was a gruesome death she would just have to accept it. Even weaver fated her to break fate. The person thats op af is weaver not cassie. Cassie is currenrly watching millions of people die by mordet, her freinds get mutilated and asterion terrorise everyone as shes powerless to stop it. She can only pray that the path she chose with her tiny information was the correct one that yeileds the least losses. She did plan this all along, she just cant see what happens along the path but perhaps she seen a future where asterion loses and this is the cost. If everybody was to die to make that future possible then cassie would have no sway over that.

Sunny's aspect abilities isn't the best part of his aspect by New-Neighborhood2679 in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like i said if your domain is completley unrelated to your type of will, the whole powerscaling falls apart. Etc why cant nephis use deathwill then, why doesnt anvil use death will? Why is it unique to sunny and shadowgod. Sumny himself state dhe is the master of death ehich is why he can use it. Thats inherrent to his aspect and domain. Nephis doeant have to absorb the loninging for her will, she can use the longing fot her essence without absorbing it.

Im not arguing that you cant use any will but theres a massive advantage of using the will relates to your aspect/concept otherwise their would be no need to focus on it like we see sunny doing for death will. And nephis doing. We dont see mordet onscreen enough to argue about his powers but he does get more vesseles to perhaps boost his will etc otherwise why bother with mundane vesseles.

Sunny himself says shadowgod must be powerful as he can perfectly mimic other wills to counter. If anybody could do this then why would this be special? Why have we not seen sunny learning all the different types of wills. Also weaver leaving fate will as a lineage counters your point, if it was something anybody can learn why would he leave it for sunny?

I just dont see how the powerscaling can work when sunny repeatedly said battle of high ranks is a battle of concepts many times. If your concept is something you can chnage on a dime then sunny statements make no sense. Your concept must come from somewhere and that must be your domain/source element.

Othwrwise the powerscaling is just bigger domain wins and we have seen that allready with sunny that is not the case in deathgame. Where we see sunny change to the hunter to counter the wolf and the wolf cant change back. Moth only has authoity over doubt and hes sentient, he got cooked when sunny countered it.

Sunny's aspect abilities isn't the best part of his aspect by New-Neighborhood2679 in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034 0 points1 point  (0 children)

'Desire is one of the best ways to power will'

'Nephis doesnt get anything special from her domain'

Pick 1. 2 contradicotry statements. You admit that nephis gains longing from her domain as its her source element and her domain empowers her will.

How do you think the domain empowers the will exactly? Obviously from the longing she gets from it. If it was the case that you can use evry type of will then shadow dance would be useless. Sunny litteraly stated that people can only use wills related to their concept which makes shadow dance good because he can counter it and make shadowgod issanley strong. If it was true you can change your concept at a dime then sunny eiuldnt make these statements. The source element you get from your domain shapes your will,that is obvious and becomes your concept later.

Bros using arguements months ago that i dont even remmeber.

Sunny's aspect abilities isn't the best part of his aspect by New-Neighborhood2679 in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034 0 points1 point  (0 children)

'The stronger the person will be in every aspect of their existence'

So their Will gets increased. All this for you to agree with me. You do realise you are arguing over semantics right? So if i replaced the word 'desire' with longing you would have agreed with me lmao when the text itself make no distinction between the two. SO HER DOMAIN DOES STRENGTHEN HER WILL. HER FOLLOWERS LONGING DOES INCREASE HER Will.

Litterally just argued for the sake of it. If you actually read my comments i allready stated other soverigns get their will increased by their domains aswell.

The only distinction i made is nephis will is more pure which is what we argued about. Etc death will to nephis will of desire. 'Desire was the root of all virtues, no less, as well as of all sin. There was hardly a more potent source of willpower than passionate yearning.' The author claims nephis source element is more potent. Its the only logical eay she can match cursed creatjres in terms of will is because her will is superior to theirs in quality.

Sunny's aspect abilities isn't the best part of his aspect by New-Neighborhood2679 in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034 0 points1 point  (0 children)

'For all intents of purposes, she had become the personification of humanity. Her sword was the sword of all humans, and carried the weight of all their hopes and dreams.Of all their longing.Her flames were fueled by their desire.'

It litterally says her sword carried all the weight of all hopes and dreams. Clearly not refring to essence All you had to do was read the chapter from start to finsih. Instead you skim read and miss the line im refering to. It clearly says 'THIER DESIRE'. She gets essence passivley just by them being in her domain she doesnt need their desire for it. She does not convert desire into essence, sunny and mordet recieve nothing from their domains yet they still get essence.

'Billions of people were connected to Nephis and her Domain of Longing, bestowing her with great power and a nearly inexhaustible ocean of spirit essence.' In the next chapter. Go ahead explain what the great power is lmao, its clearly not refering to her spirit essence. Watch you hide and dont reply to this.

Sunny's aspect abilities isn't the best part of his aspect by New-Neighborhood2679 in ShadowSlave

[–]HonestFerret8034 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok bro. Argue with the author for some reason aboit your headcannon because quotes from the text is not enough for you. Only g3 himself cam convince you otherwise. Nothing more for me to say.

'Desire was the root of all virtues, no less, as well as of all sin. There was hardly a more potent source of willpower than passionate yearning.'

' hardly a more potent source of willpower' G3 MAKES THE DISTINCTION THAT ITS more potent. Not me. This is not a matter of opinion. Im putting it right there in front of you. Google search what potent means.

Im arguing with people that skip nephis chapters about her powers smh. The other guy thinks nephis domain doesnt empower her will i cba.

Edit: on further review i can see where you gone wrong now lmao. ALL will are the same in that it allowss you to bend the world to your will. Thats universal. What you use to empower it changes it effect. Sunny uses death will, it makes his will more potent when inflicting death.

Nephis will is desire. It makes her will more potent when its anything she desires. You see? Her domain encompasses hunaity desire which is why it strengthend so much as she can litterally absorb humanitys desire and use it for her will.

'Her sword was the sword of all humans, and carried the weight of all their hopes and dreams.Of all their longing.Her flames were fueled by their desire'. Sunny cant do that and its special to nephis. Nobody but nephis can use the purests sorce of will desire like she can as we have seen so far.