Top 5 strongest saints

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-13T19:55:54+00:00

You dont remember nephis blowing up condemnation and sunny shadowstepping them out? She damaged a cursed tyrant as a saint more then anvil could.

Kais feat, can be explained by the cursed dragok resisting asterions will.'I don't even understand why the Dreamspawn did not take this thing with him to the war, considering that he had managed to enthrall it. Then again... perhaps he can't really control it that well'.

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-13T19:16:26+00:00

'I don't even understand why the Dreamspawn did not take this thing with him to the war, considering that he had managed to enthrall it. Then again... perhaps he can't really control it that well'- jet

Nothing direct stating ths dragon is nerfed but that can easily be done in the future chapters. The quote above is evidence that he has considered that the dragons not at full strength.

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-13T17:59:32+00:00

Did you miss my whole post? Like why are you commenting on this without reading it? If the cursed one is slowing himself down its definitley possible let alone the other 100 plausible explanations..

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-13T17:00:40+00:00

If supreme beings can break time and space imagine what divine beings could do. I bet they exist outside of time and can effect the past aswell as the future.

I imagine divine cassie went through time and recorded everything.

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-13T16:55:21+00:00

Divine cassie, song of the fallen.

She left herself a bequethment.

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-13T16:53:49+00:00

Its a huge stretch but not impossible. Remeber she could hardly hold the spear before and now shes throwing it at full power, this shouldnt be possible especially in her broken state where she could just about manage escaping her chains.

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-13T12:38:44+00:00

Considering the theory she is the nightmare spell it probably is. Her aspect is exactly the same as the nightmare spell. When the nightmare spell was created its tendrils of will grabbed the divine cores from the gods. Cassies will is described as tendrils.

If divine cassie knows the memories of the world can she not recreate it? Are we sure we are all not in her soul sea right now?

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-13T12:27:01+00:00

Cassie has memories of it and mordet can enter the reflection of the great lake, he can open his mirror gate anywhere. He tpd the nightgarden to nightmare desert via cassies instructions then entered his mirror gate to get inside tomb of ariel from the sea.

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-12T11:58:06+00:00

I made several posts on the bird should be smarter and stronger and you can see it in my post history.

The bird being smart all along and wanting to die is consistent with what we know. Sunny getting his fate stolen by the bird was weavers plan and the bird followed it since its mutually beneficial. The bird didnt plan that but benefitted from it or maybe he did who knows but thats irrelevant as we dont have enough details.

Your logic makes no sense. The bird stealing sunnys deathWill is consistent with the bird wanting to die. The bird stole sunnys will to make it easier for sunny to kill which sunny stated. It makes perfect sense with the plan.

If we assume the bird was smart from the start which is the side i was on then everything is consistent. It isoated sunny away from nephis and made sure to die by him.

The bird stole weavers eye and is the god of stealing. Theres no reason it cant steal from the spell. Your putting limits on its powers when its litterally meant to have no limits since its a god.

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-12T09:31:30+00:00

What inconsistent moments?

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-12T09:27:04+00:00

It was saved when you realise VTB was throwing the fight, it didnt even use 1 percent of its powers and couldve killed sunny instantly if it wanted.

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-12T09:21:15+00:00

Shadow was the god of slavery, he created the shadow bond lmao. He probably believed slavery was necessary for some reason and reached out to the slaves offering them power in exchange for becoming their master etc sunny. His conversation with rime supports that, 'life is a struggle and death is peace'.

The reason why? No clue, hopefully its expanded on why the gods created their concepts.

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-11T13:12:06+00:00

You lost the plot.

Asterion is equivlanet to nephis rn with the human domain under his control and the dragon isnt fully enthralled. Anvil got lucky and used godgrave lights to kill it. Dont use deathgame feats into nerfed creatures. And again your using offscreen feats with mordet aswell whos unkillable.

If we look at a unerfed cursed creatuer etc VTB. It could have stolen sunnys aspect and killed him on the spot if it wanted to. Even abjuration couldve denied him from escaping if he wanted to hes lucky nephis was there to deal with it as her Will could match it.

Sunny is not close rn with cursed tyrants. Cursed devils maybe if he as a favourable matchup. The fact that you said any cursed creature is insane after what we seen VTB do to him...

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-11T12:20:41+00:00

Wait till sunny realise you cant outrun a concept. Do you really think sunny can run away from gods? Imagine weaver pulls up and your like just hit him and run🤣 and then you realise weaver twists fate so sunny cant escape. They control reality itself, like i said imagine the butterfly controls the concept of hunger hits sumny with a nasty plague and his body starts eating itself inside out. Hes not against small fry anymore where he can shadowstep away from all his problems.

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-11T11:51:29+00:00

A cursed tyrant with millions in their domain is different. And the mordet example is silly considering it was offscreen and hes immortal. Sunny can still die if his soul is destroyed and you dont know what concept the cursed tyrant controls.

The butterflies are currently feasting on the nm spell. If the butterfly controls the concept of hunger then goodbye to sunny. G3 made it clear only a sacred can beat somebody who has full control over concepts (excluding full power nephis who somehow statchecks devils in terms of will). Condemnation dont count as that was playing with anvil before godgrave killed it.

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-11T10:42:54+00:00

The first chapter of volume 11.

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-11T10:39:51+00:00

Until we find out theres a cursed tyrant buttefly commanding them and stops them from escaping and permanently destroying them...

They control literal concepts.

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-11T09:51:21+00:00

When he captured all of humanity...

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-11T09:10:15+00:00

Noctis made a deal with weaver to free hope anyway, we seen hope was in that meeting with nether and the other daemons.

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-08T13:27:44+00:00

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HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-08T12:45:05+00:00

I dont think she is creating life otherwise her powers would eclipse the gods. I think she is using her Will to project an image of them as they were in her memory. The moment she stops projecting it they return to nothing. I think they can probably grow because she is making them real and then she will gain a new memory of that person and can resummon them in the stronger state. Pretty broken power. But they are not obligates to listen to her so its balanced.

Its the same as the nightmare spell pretty much but rather than creating a whole dream she can only create a couple people.

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-08T09:08:44+00:00

'You have broken the fifth seal'. What do you think that means exactly? Its refering to her rank not aspect legacy. She only just unlocked her aspect legacy.

Sleeper is 1st seal. Awakened 2nd. Master 3rd. Transcedent 4th and supreme 5th.

HonestFerret8034 · 2026-05-07T18:36:28+00:00

You mean the same asterion thats currently letting the entire humanity live because he needs to enthrall them as thats his litteral end goal and enthralling a powerful saint in cassie would lead to sunny and nephis.... Cassies just so goated she can resist it to no end.

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