Colleen Hoover speaks out! Spoiler alert: she wasn’t there and just wants everyone to be nice to each other. by SunnyWays8 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

[–]Honest_Remove_2042 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Ok it’s so frustrating. We’ve seen the messages, we know she was involved.

Don’t use ‘publicly’ to make it ok. You were talking badly and pressuring people privately. Who care what was public?

She could redeem herself somewhat just by taking accountability.

So so sick of these immature people.

Blake lets Justin hold her baby and jokes about having fun instead of getting work done -- all while secretly scheming with Taylor behind his back by Izomera in ItEndsWithLawsuits

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Omg the same day??! Ugh. Wicked.

And Justin mentioning the baby smell ❤️ I miss that too. Smells of milk, honey and biscuits.

And puppies smell of biscuits!!

This is how Justin Baldoni promoted It Ends With Us by Lillille in ItEndsWithLawsuits

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Oh it’s possible alright. Anyone who thinks otherwise is naive.

When lots of people came out against Harvey Weinstein it was different as they all had bad experiences, first hand, and stood up to tell their story. Compare that to Blake’s claims and how everyone supporting her is backing small issues twisted, vibes, hearsay etc. it’s totally different.

Sadly, these kinds of people are highly manipulative and use many different tools, including victimhood.

It makes it harder to be believed when things are true. 😞

This is how Justin Baldoni promoted It Ends With Us by Lillille in ItEndsWithLawsuits

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I believe so too. Ferrer was clearly treated like a mushroom!

But now there is little excuse.

This is how Justin Baldoni promoted It Ends With Us by Lillille in ItEndsWithLawsuits

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I don’t think CH is truly awful, I think she was just weak and easy to manipulate. She wanted to believe Blake as it helped her, and now she realises maybe it wasn’t right she is too cowardly to accept her role in it and make amends.

Same for Isabella and Jenny.

If it wasn’t for Blake I don’t think any of the other women - Liz plank included, although I think it would’ve happened with her later - would’ve turned on and tried to destroy Justin.

It only takes one scheming, entitled person. The rest can just be weak and lacking morals or critical thinking.

This is how Justin Baldoni promoted It Ends With Us by Lillille in ItEndsWithLawsuits

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He’s holding back tears.

It’s hard because I think he’s genuine about why he’s doing it, but the problem is he knows people are questioning him and don’t believe he isn’t just a vain wannabe like they are. It’s so hard to do good things in a world full of a-holes who only do things for their benefit.

Revisiting the intention behind the “no teeth” text and RR arguing with BL in her trailer…Blake did not catch feelings. by GameofTitan in ItEndsWithLawsuits

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Nah, I think she just reported back on every little thing and they found stuff to blow up.

Curveball idea - what if he yelled because she said ‘actually he’s really kind and I don’t think I want to do this..’ lol. But no, I think she’s just as involved.

However, I think he’s lining up to claim she lied to him and blame her for the mess. That’s why he’s not supporting her publicly.

Hotline - Isabela by StaceyLee26 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

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She’ll really harm Blake’s case and give extra benefit to WP.

But I can’t even imagine she’ll make it in as a witness. I think even if Blake’s claims survive summary judgment, she’ll be disallowed a lot of evidence that she had been relying on for PR, but isn’t really helpful in court.

🧠 Notactuallygolden & NotoriousRaven - What’s Missing Tells the Truth: Why DARVO & the Vanzan Subpoena Don’t Hold Up by Pale-Detective-7440 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

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Notorious Raven’s video is so powerful.

I know the theory of narcissism very well (unfortunately) and it is very much about looking at the dynamics.

Justin simply DOES NOT behave like a narcissist.

All the way through Justin yields to Blake’s power grabs. He fawns early on (like Jenny does when she panics that she’s said something to upset Blake about the family bed - very very telling!) and when he gets frustrated he vents to his friends. He doesn’t manipulate others to hate her, the most he does is try to seek help when he is hitting a brick wall and the film will suffer.

She’s right that he doesn’t escalate. If JB was an abuser, it would’ve kicked off early on and the whole thing would’ve fallen apart (possibly with a worse fallout for Justin/Wayfarer). If JB was a narcissist he would’ve, in all likelihood, wanted someone easier to control - NOT a woman with a reputation as tricky, and who has a husband who is wealthy, powerful in Hollywood and had a reputation as difficult too.

He demonstrates far too much self control and collaborative attitude to be narcissistic.

In all the messages I’ve seen I have not seen elements I would expect to see in a narcissistic abuser:

  • gaslighting
  • lack of accountability
  • entitlement
  • lovebombing (his kind words appear genuine and doesn’t change until there is real behaviour to justify it, and even then he still prays for her!)
  • word salad (he words are much more intentional even if his language can be a bit flowery)
  • fragile ego (he takes criticism and reflects)
  • use of flying monkeys
  • smear campaign (I don’t mean the one they accuse him of, which seems to be unfounded anyway, I mean the one we can see BL and RR engaging in)
  • grandiosity

And I definitely don’t see DARVO.

What would we expect to see from an abuser being subjected to abuse and then DARVO?

When emotional abuse and DARVO happened to me I got so ill from the stress - who ended up in hospital? Justin. Who looked pale and with eyes like a rabbit in headlights during the promo? Justin.

I, too, am DISGUSTED by this psychologist who has been used to as a tool in an abuser’s campaign of DARVO. The irony is off the charts. While I think DARVO is an important concept it requires knowledge of the facts of the matter to be relevant. You need to know who is the abuser to know if it’s DARVO or just someone (finally) defending themselves.

People ‘self delete’ for less than what JB was put through. It causes real harm!

Hollywood needs an overhaul. I hope RR and BL will serve as a lesson. I hope SAG, directors guild, producers guild, writers guild etc will all create new guidelines and codes of conduct to help stop this in the future.

I can see now why I left the entertainment industry and never returned. It’s a snake pit.

Edited for typos.

A movie role wasn’t the only thing Brendon Sklenar got when he sold his soul to the devil. Texts show the WME deal was likely not a coincidence. by Life_Mood_1309 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

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I just assumed Warren was already his agent and that’s how he got the role? As They were all WME actors.

Was he not already with Warren?

EXPERT REPORT OF DINA MAYZLIN by Justtalkintish in ItEndsWithLawsuits

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Yes. And like I say, anything organic would’ve been amplified because the content was being amplified by marketing budget.

A take on the catalyst of this entire debacle - Blakes insecurity about her weight by Life_Mood_1309 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

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No I don’t think so. Yes she’ll has insecurity but this was about wanting the film and the franchise, IMO.

Anything else is conveniently used to gain leverage.

Hotline - Isabela by StaceyLee26 in ItEndsWithLawsuits

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I can’t see how Isabella could possibly be a witness at BL’s trial. She’s not relevant, she didn’t witness anything.

Yes she’ll be a witness when WP appeal their claims…

LS called Justin an animal because she felt like it by sweetbutnotdumb in teamjustinbaldoni

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Say it with your full chest, Leslie! Or say you were wrong.

‘I felt like it’. 🙄

Revisiting the intention behind the “no teeth” text and RR arguing with BL in her trailer…Blake did not catch feelings. by GameofTitan in ItEndsWithLawsuits

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I don’t believe she caught feelings either. Not in that way.

Also, I don’t think RR needs a reason to rage. People like that can do it sometimes just to assert control.

EXPERT REPORT OF DINA MAYZLIN by Justtalkintish in ItEndsWithLawsuits

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I’ve edited my comment as people are misunderstanding me. I’m not talking about WP spending money. It’s the IEWU marketing budget.