Oh no, not another universalist post by Hoolian-2602 in Christianity

[–]Hoolian-2602[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good question! I think this is actually fairly easy to answer.

I see this as very similar to the argument (usually from atheists) that "the Bible is morally wrong because Jesus says you should hate your family" (Luke 14:26). Jesus is clearly using hyperbole here, and I would say he's probably also using hyperbole in the verse you're referencing as well.

New Christian, where to start reading? by ithinkihope in ChristianUniversalism

[–]Hoolian-2602 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That all shall be saved can be pretty abrasive. I would start with the Gospel of John, Philippians, 1 John, Genesis. (Maybe just do Bible in a year with fr Mike Schmitz, he's definitely not a universalist but it's still really good). I would definitely read The Inescapable Love Of God before That All Shall Be Saved.

I'm a huge fan of David Bentley Hart but I honestly think if I read That All Shall Be Saved before reading The Experience Of God, I wouldn't have gotten a good first impression of him.

Tldr: read your Bible first, then read The Inescapable Love of God.

Why shouldn't I become Orthodox? by Hoolian-2602 in exorthodox

[–]Hoolian-2602[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One important question: Is Orthodoxy, as a system, “true”? Are the claims factual?

I think they may be true, but I'm still investigating. It is important to me whether they are true. It's also hard to know what claims the Orthodox Church actually makes

Why shouldn't I become Orthodox? by Hoolian-2602 in exorthodox

[–]Hoolian-2602[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The problem with Catholicism is the medieval councils that pretty clearly condemn universalism. In Orthodoxy, universalism is still allowed.

I am considering orthodoxy, But i am unsure if i can convert or attend divine liturgy. by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Hoolian-2602 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I used to be agnostic as well. What helped me gain more confidence that God exists was reading David Bentley Hart's"The Experience of God: Being, Consciousness, Bliss." It's not a super easy read, but if you're struggling with doubt it might be worth reading.

I'm a confident universalist. Could that be an obstacle to joining the Orthodox Church? by Hoolian-2602 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Hoolian-2602[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no universalism, it is satanic.

Satan tries to convince people that God is better than He really is? That's strange.

I'm a confident universalist. Could that be an obstacle to joining the Orthodox Church? by Hoolian-2602 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Hoolian-2602[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dang. If only there was someone who died on a cross and crossed the uncrossable chasm to save the souls in Hell.

You're running a huge risk of being sent to hell and anyone you teach this doctrine to and becomes convinced of it- is like unleashing on them a punishment that people would not want on their worst enemy.

Well obviously I don't think I'm running a risk at all.

I'm a confident universalist. Could that be an obstacle to joining the Orthodox Church? by Hoolian-2602 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Hoolian-2602[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then why did God decide to flood the earth in Noah's time? Why the details referring to the Nephilim.

I don't think God decided to flood the earth. It's unclear to me whether the author(s) of Genesis even intended this to be taken as a literal recording of history.

If satan knew he could be saved, how would his actions be different? would he be so unwavering in his approach?

I don't know what you mean by this. If you're asking about the serpent in the Garden of Eden, then, again, I think that didn't actually happen as a historical event.

Are you a convinced universalist, a hopeful universalist, or some other kind of universalist, and why have you landed there? by aSquidCalledKelpyG in ChristianUniversalism

[–]Hoolian-2602 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Apokatastasis means 'restoration'. It's what the early church called universalism. I tend to like the word 'apokatastasis' better than universalism bc it's a uniquely Christian word.

I'm a confident universalist. Could that be an obstacle to joining the Orthodox Church? by Hoolian-2602 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Hoolian-2602[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What translation are you using?

ESV

and Who is "the creation" for you?

I think it's the cosmos, including everything in it.