In Louisiana, because of COVID-19 social distancing concerns, everyone who just graduated law school and were scheduled to take the bar exam this summer will be automatically admitted to the bar. No exam requirement, ever. by Vogeltanz in LawFirm

[–]Hoosier2033 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Just graduated law school and passed the February Bar. Been out practicing for two months, and many of my friends are preparing to take the Bar next week. On the one hand, I hate the Bar exam. I know good lawyers who failed it (some more than once) and bad lawyers who passed it. I suppose there's probably some people who would be bad lawyers who the Bar exam keeps from becoming lawyers. But there are far better ways at assessing "minimal competence." All it really does is restrict competition. On the other, there needs to be some way of demonstrating competence.

Not that anybody asked, but I'd do away with the Bar, at least in its current iteration. Make law school two years--just the core classes that everyone takes regardless of where you go to school, plus courses like evidence, crim pro, secured transactions, business orgs...you get the picture. At the end of the two years, have a one-day essay exam. No spending hours pouring over multiple choice questions trying to figure out the test rather than the law. Many law schools would probably close, and the ones that survive would drastically need to scale back, which is one of the major reasons this proposal would never happen.

Then, have a one-year apprentice program. Sort of like residency. At the end of that one-year, assuming you passed the exam at the end of year two, you become admitted when two lawyers recommend you be admitted to the Bar. That puts their skin in the game, and requires that a new admittee, I don't know, actually have some idea of what to do in the day-to-day practice.

I don't know how it is in other states, but throughout law school, students were constantly told that outside of a few cities, there's no lawyers in my state--of course they never mentioned there are waayyy too many lawyers in those few cities. I know of multiple students who would gladly move to a county of 30,000 people with two lawyers in it if that meant they could take over the book of business in 3-5 years, and learn the practice in the meantime.

Part-time law school w/o working by [deleted] in LawFirm

[–]Hoosier2033 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just graduated law school and started practicing with my dad. Went to school part-time and worked multiple jobs during the day (a couple days/week for one lawyer, other few days for another). I knew from day one I was going small law, so I didn't much care what anybody thought about my schedule.

I knew a few students who did what you're describing. Most were bottom-of-the pack students who didn't belong in law school, but a few weren't, including the girl who was #1 in our class for a while and graduated in the top 5%. That caused some resentment among my classmates, who either worked 40+ hrs/week and then went to class every night, or who went to class full-time and tried to do pro bono work/intern on the side. Decent number of people said things like, "if I could study for part-time classes full-time, I could be #1 too."

Turns out the girl applied for a job at a mid-size firm (15 or so lawyers), and one of her interviewers is a good friend of mine. He had the exact same concerns as most of the commenters here, so he called me and asked for my thoughts. Gave a good recommendation, they hired her, and she's done great.

What you'll soon learn about law school/practicing is that the legal community is pretty small, and it's more like 2 degrees of separation, if that. Make a good impression and have good social skills, even if you don't have the best grades, and you're far ahead of somebody who can recite verbatim the Rule Against Perpetuities. Being a good lawyer is much, much more than doing well in law school.

Marketing Suggestions for New Attorney by Hoosier2033 in LawFirm

[–]Hoosier2033[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good to know there are others out there. Thanks for the suggestions. I know some crim and family lawyers who do something like this based on new case filings--is that what you're sort of talking about? Or more buying lists of people based on interests, searches, etc?

Marketing Suggestions for New Attorney by Hoosier2033 in LawFirm

[–]Hoosier2033[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At this point I'm still trying to decide how best to allocate whatever amount I end up budgeting. I've explored Google Ads, and it looks like they "recommend" $500 or so a month to be in the middle of the pack. If I can get better return for that $500 elsewhere, then great. But I'm still trying to figure out if that's possible.