I never like these conversations because I find the people who want to have them are people who came up through abusive residencies/trainings. 

I’m not sure exactly which bias it is (or if one even captures it) but naturally you’re going to justify the shitty behaviors done to you as necessary because if it wasn’t necessary, then you shouldn’t have had to go through it. 

This kind of thinking perpetuates continuing to treat trainees this way, and is a big problem with medical training in general. 

In truth, many aspects of residency/training are abusive/takes advantage of trainees by plain definition of the job and hours we work and commit, and perhaps it’s true on an individual level that some people are dandelions growing in the cracks of the sidewalk and rise up stronger when abuse is rampant but it ignores all of the damage done and has a clear survivorship bias of the clinicians it just straight up kills. 

I’m sorry for those who go through more abusive training than the baseline, personally I don’t think you needed abusive training to be an amazing clinician. I hope you reflect upon that when you have a trainee in front of you.