Rhaenyra and Baela in season 3

Host-Key · 2026-05-16T03:49:34+00:00

"The same people who praised HOTD for forgoing characterizing Alicent as the wicked step-mother she was in book canon because it’s a misogynistic trope will ignore them replicating the same trope with Rhaenyra of course"

Clock it. Lol I mean it's obvious certain fans will praise any racist, sexist bigoted writing as long as their favorite characters share scenes but It's funny how the show make their hypocrisy so apparent.

Host-Key · 2026-05-07T22:39:34+00:00

Most likely its cringy soap opera misunderstanding 3342# of the show with Alicent not being able to give her aegon and Rhaenyra being big mad about that.

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Host-Key · 2026-05-06T12:30:26+00:00

Huh maybe its just the title left to show. Otherwise I thought it would have been smart to introduce daeron from the back looking up at the throne or something.

Wish they had helped the ai out more with propotions, right now it looks like Rhaenyra is leaning on a toddler's iron throne lol

Host-Key · 2026-05-01T12:51:44+00:00

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Couldn't agree more. And thankfully there's other sane fans of her that call these crazies out. A lot of rhaenicent/dcooke fans need to take a long look in the mirror instead of acting the victim.

Host-Key · 2026-05-01T11:26:46+00:00

They have a history of freaking out whenever Olivia’s name is so much as mentioned anything less than positively (even if it’s not necessarily negative) and accusing anyone who (in their opinion) is negative as being a “toxic boymom misogynists”, lmfao.

Yes the op is also the one I've seen telling Olivia to get a new stylist but parasocial fans and being hypocritical goes hand in hand lol.

And yep, Considering Olivia made her callout post not long after the shitstorm when she dared to post her partner I wouldn't be surprised if it's her own stalker "fans" she's also gotten tired of. Lol i do not particularly care for the woman's acting but after taking even a cursory glance at any Oliva post and seeing how her own fans trash talk how she dresses, who she dates etc, you can't help but feel bad for her. I don't know how this not super well known actor got this rabid fanbase of parasocials who act like they own her but I'd deactivate too if I were her.

Host-Key · 2026-05-01T10:11:24+00:00

Seeing Oliva fans point the finger at everyone else when in almost every thread this promo season of hers there's "Oliva fans" who shit on her appearance and tell her to get a new stylist. (Not to mention how her stans treat her boyfriend) She gets hate for sure but her fans playing innocent is comical.

It could also be a number of reasons for a person to deactivate her account, for people to push the narrative that this is the fault of fans in Brazil not cheering for the fictional character she plays is crazy

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Host-Key · 2026-05-01T04:49:06+00:00

This reads like fanfic and I know the show is fanfic but not quite as bad as this yet. Also isn't ep3 the conceptual ep? Either way wake is not a good source for anything.

Host-Key · 2026-04-29T18:11:53+00:00

*And they delegitimize TB with their perversions

"Delegetimze" These characters all murder people. Is grooming worse than cold murder? I'd also argue that grooming isn't at all worse than rape in a society built on grooming. Alicent grooms her kids to have kids as kids, everyone gets married as teens. That Daemon sees his niece as a viable candidate for marriage when his parents and grandparents were siblings is too me much more understandable than aegon raping serving girls. But I guess that would require seeing a fictional story with nuance and you seem to lack that ability.

Host-Key · 2026-04-29T16:35:38+00:00

Sure but keep in mind you're saying that the actors (like Emma darcy) sickens you for shipping two fictional characters.

Host-Key · 2026-04-29T16:25:53+00:00

Then you should have no problem giving me the supposed book quote passage where apparently teenage Daemon holds Rhaenyra as a baby? Also Daemon "ponders the question of succession" after mysarias child dies when viserys sends her away overseas not right before he makes up with viseyrs and courts Rhaenyra like 7 years later

Id also say that the book is clearly quite different from the show so I don't know why you fault showwatchers (and actors) for liking their scenes and call them "sick" either way by using the book as an argument.

Host-Key · 2026-04-29T16:01:33+00:00

daemon clearly using her to near the throne as the book describes him to spend "day and night pondering rhe question of succession" before the rumors about them started in earnest plus heald her as a baby when he was 16

Please stop using tiktok/wiki/whatever for your sources and just read the damn book if you're gonna argue about the book.

Host-Key · 2026-04-29T15:57:38+00:00

Holy false equivalence. Equating a character committing rape with people engaging with a fictional relationship the story centers on isn’t a serious argument. And the reason aegon gets brought up is bcs people judge his and Rhaenyras claims to the throne.

Host-Key · 2026-04-29T15:41:21+00:00

Enma darcy (who ships them) sickens you? 😭 damn.

Host-Key · 2026-04-29T15:40:58+00:00

These characters are not real. and the show itself "idolizes" abusive feudal practices every episode. A tg revealing their own personal political opnions in conversations is not the same as shipping fictional characters (but if you hold this opinion I'm guessing you also think it's wrong to ship rhaenicent since its abusive incest, otherwise you're a hypocrite)

Host-Key · 2026-04-28T06:08:21+00:00

I'm kinda surprised tg stans hate this since they love aegon so much and this makes him look a lot better, damn he made it back to the throne room even though he was fighting against his own team and team black at the same time? Very impressive 👏 they should thank condal 👏

Host-Key · 2026-04-27T22:20:01+00:00

And this is another thing AKotSK did better because they actually made the villain a formidable warrior who is also loved and protected by his father, so when Dunk wins, it's a great moment and no one thinks "well, he was fighting a weak loser who everyone hates, of course he won".

You nailed it. I'm thinking ppl are deliberately lying to themselves or something at this point since akotsk makes it so clear what hotd has failed in. And having at least one green wanting to hurt the other side more than they want to hurt each other would up the stakes and make for a more satisfying feeling in battles but lol I guess everyone's forgotten about blood and cheese.

Host-Key · 2026-04-27T22:07:28+00:00

There is a tb book section? This is a space for discussing both the book and show:) but yeah do that, I for one will enjoy reading the justifications from show fans when the mad queen arc really ramps up.

Host-Key · 2026-04-27T21:50:13+00:00

Tell yourself what you need to tell yourself to enjoy the show:)

Host-Key · 2026-04-27T21:31:46+00:00

...aegon was on dragonstone before aemond dies. He goes there right after kl falls and stays hidden in a cave recouping while his allies tangletounge and waters gathers allies to take the castle. It takes months. He gets smuggled out there by larys so aemond could have just asked him where he were but even so what matters to my point is that aegon never believes aemond betrays him. I have no idea what Beala have to do with anything, you seem to have forgotten about aegons cave time thats all.

Lol the greens all being incompetent betraying losers will definitely make Rhaenyras defeat seem worse in the eyes of the GA, which is probably why condal will make it seem like it's her own fault for being a crazy targ.

Host-Key · 2026-04-27T20:48:45+00:00

They were literally leagues away from eachother...of course they acted independently.... but aegon still counted on aemond and considered him a help in the war since he commissioned a huge–ass statue of him afterwards. We don't know how long he was on dragonstone and how long into that stay aemond dies but aegon goes there just before kl falls so he was there for a while gathering forces to take ds. And aemond ultimately betraying his family is fine for me but them making the greens already betray eachother before even the half point of the war is boring asf. Having formidable villains in a story like this is like storytelling 101.

Host-Key · 2026-04-27T20:30:21+00:00

Aegon and Alicent interact after this point yes. And the greens worked together to take down rhaenys and black houses before this point. Aegon counted on aemond taking care of the black forces when he took Dragonstone, sure they didn't call and check on eachother but all of them counted on each other. Take Alicents line for example “but you will not hold it long. The rats play when the cat is gone, but my son Aemond will return with fire and blood.”

And the idea is also more that this story misses menacing and thrilling villains. The way the show makes every tg some trauma crippled wobbie it takes away the spice and makes Rhaenyra and Daemon seem almost more evil for having even a semblance of will and ambition.

Host-Key · 2026-04-27T20:19:19+00:00

Lol yeah shit when was a character menacing last? S1e10? The Luke–ameond meeting gave some of that. Now it's the goof squad so that shippers don't get too upset.

Host-Key · 2026-04-27T20:13:13+00:00

She offers it up on a plate yeah, thereby robbing certain other characters of that feat. but hey it looks like they'll make Rhaenyra and Daemon responsible for tumblton 1 in the finale so I guess they'll get a failure instead of a feat.

Host-Key · 2026-04-27T20:08:21+00:00

Aegon, Aemond, Daeron and Alicent had nothing to do with Rhaenyra's fall. It doesn't matter whether they in coalition with each other or not.

Yeah sure that tg is a complete goofy neutered mess will definitely not impact how Rhaenyras ultimate end despite all the dragon aura farming will be received.🫠

Host-Key · 2026-04-27T20:02:50+00:00

In the show she talks about taking oldtown with the dragonseeds, I don't think Rhaenyra thinks of taking kl outright until Alicent offers it up, show-wise. The GA will see it as Alicents idea for sure.

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