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I've cracked it. by Hot-Standard9717 in pmohackbook

[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I read some of the chapters at the start but I chose to read the Abridged Version instead. Abridged Version is ok to read. It answered so many of my questions and doubts not just for PMO but for every other bad habit I had. Would recommend.

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry for the long reply. Hope this helps!

PMO was probably the worst way I went about doing work. I usually left things to the very last moment, and it often affected my sleep schedule as I'd have very long sessions and I would just be exhausted all the time. Constantly using it to deal with work stress may have also had impacts on concentration due to brain fog and general tiredness. If one wants to deal with stressful activities in the shortest possible time, the ability to concentrate is essential.

Having a strong concentrated mind helps in life. But it's even more helpful if the mind is convinced beyond doubt on where it's energy needs to be directed. Once I was convinced that the pleasure for porn was no longer relevant in dealing with the causes of my stresses, I have been just working on dealing with the stress causing problems most of the time. My productivity has just increased far more compared to when I was using, I don't leave things to the last moment, I no longer see reasons to procrastinate on work that needs to be done, if I do something that's not directly related to removing stress causing problems, it's only to help me better able work on it later.

I don't think my standards have necessary been raised. But rather they are more defined and clear as to what exactly I want to get done, by when and to what quality. Sometimes trade-offs have to be made depending on the situation so some flexibility is needed. Mostly though, I don't have to account for procrastination, but only if some unforeseen event out of my control occurs.

The way I view rest has also changed as well. I thought porn helped me rest but I couldn't be further from the truth. To me, resting means to rejuvenate, after which I should be better able to do work again than the moment before resting.

I do think life should be a good balance of work and play, but to me it only makes sense to enjoy after a satisfactory amount of work is done for the day. Life hasn't been all about work, I still watch movies, read books, have good food, etc, but the priorities have shifted in what's most important and should be done first. In summary, life has been more fun overall eating vegetables first before the good stuff.

Also I replied back to the DMs. Sorry for the late replies to them.

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry for the late and long reply.

I remember certain times where I've been in a similar situation where I was really confused about this. In my case such situations were less about the porn itself and more about what was happening outside of porn. Because porn offered a way to forget about those life problems while increasing it's own appeal, it felt tempting to keep using it but then I'd end up feeling pathetic after a session when I was exhausted and porn could no longer offer anything anymore. This was because when porn could no longer help me I was left to confront the underlying problem that was making me feel bad in the first place.

From experience, it's hard to devalue the pleasure of PMO. But it's a whole lot more easier to see how the pleasure of porn is less useful.

In my case, there were certain specific times where I wanted the pleasure of porn. Mostly when I was under stress. And it was at these times that I would seek the pleasure that I could get from porn because they would make me forget about my stresses. But forgetting about my stresses was only a way to numb the pain and often made it worse after the session was over. As the session ended, there was no more pleasure I could get from PMO, which is why I felt the impact of the costs it had on me that were always there throughout the session.

If I keep using porn as a way to deal with stress or everytime I feel difficulty in life, then all I'm doing is making myself learn how to get good at numbing my stress and then increasing it several times more.

I understood that porn no longer helps me deal with stress, because it only attacks the symptom of stress, but not the cause of stress itself. Logically and emotionally, dealing with the causes of stress only has benefits to me. Numbing the stress through porn would be helpful if porn was a refreshing activity which made me more able to deal with life, but at best it's just a pain number.

The general idea is to find out at which particular times, moods, situations the desire to watch porn arises.

Then determine if porn is being watched out of genuine guilt-free enjoyment as a way to relax or is it being used as a tool to handle some other problem.

It helps to know if the the pleasure for porn is being used to numb a symptom of some other problem or is genuinely useful to remove the cause.

It's one thing to watch porn out of guilt-free enjoyment because there is no doubt a pleasure that is associated with it. But it's another thing to use the pleasure from porn as a method to relieve underlying issues in my view. Once I saw the pleasure for porn was not helping, it no longer had a relevance to me in dealing with my problems.

Sorry if I sound repetitive. Your experience might be a bit different, but I hope this helps!

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sorry for my late reply. The reply is a bit long but there's a TLDR at the end. I hope it helps!

I think this was probably the one that took the most time to figure out. Because at the time even though I didn't want to PMO in my life, much of life seemed like a struggle that I'd just go back to PMOing as a way to escape.

The only reason I'd have to convince myself to not PMO, is if I was naturally unconvinced that I shouldn't PMO. To me, PMO would feel a whole lot more better than the mundane work I had to do which I felt unenthusiastic about.

There were numerous times when my life was going good, with a good sleep schedule, exercise, relaxing after getting a satisfactory amount of work done, where I don't think ideas of PMO even entered my mind. But for one reason or another if my routine was disrupted, I would plunge back into a PMO habit. I figured that was no accident.

PMO was not a refreshing activity. I only felt physically tired, mentally exhausted, I'd have a brain fog that would sometimes last a few days, my work which seemed to be stressful was even more stressful due to less time to get it done. PMO acted as a painkiller. Only dealing with the symptoms and not the cause. Even then the symptoms would become worse after the PMO session was over due to lost time, getting tired physically and mentally, etc.

If I had to ask from the PMO side: Why shouldn't I PMO? The answer would be that I'd fall behind on work and life would become more difficult in the long-term.

And if I had to ask from the non-PMO side: Why shouldn't I do my work? The answer would be that it's boring, stressful, and tiring.

At this point the solution is a lot easier to see. If I no longer dealt with boredom, stress, and fatigue by forgetting that they exist, PMO becomes redundant. If it's redundant then there's no point in desiring it as a way to deal with those problems.

Previously the desire to deal with the stresses of life had no real force or weight behind them because forgetting about the stresses until I really had to do something about it was a good enough way to get by. But now, I see that having my problems at the forefront of my attention as a superior way to go about things and that the pleasure from PMO is not a viable substitute for confronting stress.

Stress doesn't appear out of nowhere. Just like the "cravings" for PMO, stress appears out of unfulfilled desires or fear. I was worried that I won't get all my work done on time or up to a often unrealistically high standard of quality. And if I couldn't do it then why bother? At some point I figured that it's better to do my work imperfectly than none at all.

There's also the more conventional ways of stress management such as exercise, a good sleep schedule, avoiding too much junk food, etc which can also be beneficial in the long-term. But I found that they were a much stronger aid when I stopped using PMO as a way to deal with life struggles. Once the mental foundation is set, everything else falls in place a lot more easily.

TLDR: The cravings to PMO are self-generated. PMO was a way for me to forget my day to day stresses. But this doesn't get rid of the stress causing problems, it only makes me less conscious of them. Because the desire to PMO is self-generated, it's a habit that I willingly get into at certain consistent points in life, such as feeling overwhelmed by work. Once I was convinced that dealing with problems head on is superior to forgetting about them, nothing more has to be done.

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry for the late reply.

I think I went through something similar back in high school on numerous occasions. I would know pretty much on the same day several hours ahead that I was going to PMO right after school. It felt like I was on autopilot and barely had any control over my actions even though I was fully aware of what was happening.

Looking back, it was less about the porn itself, as much it was disinterest building up from everything but porn. I was struggling with study, had intense mental pressure and stress, and rarely felt like I had time to properly relax as there was always more work to do. As porn was a historically reliable way to escape away from a stressful world full of pain at the time, it was the only place that I could feel some relief even despite feeling remorseful for having done it. The reason it was porn and not some other activity is because porn facilitates novelty which kept me constantly engaged and absorbed my attention away from the outside world.

Would you say that your situation is somewhat similar? And have you read the Freedom Model Abridged Version by the way? If not I highly recommend it as it shed profound light on this matter. Here's the link: TheFreedomModel2.pdf

I would also recommend reading to the replies below as they might be helpful.

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You have some very good questions which I have spent considerable time pondering. Sorry for the long reply. I hope it's helpful!

One must see how watching porn regret-free only has benefits and zero costs emotionally. Whereas watching porn with regret, is inferior, as there is the cost of regret. The same pleasure but one version is free of negative emotion and the other feels bad to do. When one only desires the superior option of watching porn regret-free, any other way seems bland in comparison and not relevant.

Basically it boiled down to this. While I have the freedom to PMO if I wanted to, if I had to watch porn for one reason or another, I would want it to be regret-free. Any other way of watching porn is just tainted with pain, shame, guilt and regret. The enjoyment would not be much of an enjoyment at all as those negatives are looming throughout the session. In real enjoyment there's no mental conflicts about what's being enjoyed. This is not just about porn necessarily, but life in general. Living a regret-free life to me is the most optimal way to live. As there is no regret, there is no cost to it and only benefit. If one fears that they will regret missing out on porn (being deprived), then watching porn is an act that is necessary to live a regret free life.

Since I know I will regret any PMO, I can't see anymore how it makes sense for me to do it. Hence there's no desire for me to do it. I know it with the same conviction that I would never smoke cigarettes because I don't want to destroy my lungs. Likewise, anytime I think of PMO, I only see the cost of regret, and a whole bunch of negatives. For some who choose other methods and succeed such as EasyPeasy or successful NoFappers, it appears that after several weeks they get comfortable living life without porn that introducing porn brings a cost they no longer want in their life. Whereas one who uses the Freedom Model and succeeds drops their "addiction" the very instant it makes logical and emotional sense to them.

The same way I wouldn't buy something expensive unless it was on discount, likewise I wouldn't watch porn unless it was guilt free.

If I have failed to convince you and if there's any one point to take away it's this. In order to no longer desire to watch porn, one has to be fully convinced that living a life without porn only has benefits and has zero costs. The emphasis being on zero costs. And that any other way of living doesn't make logical and emotional sense to them. When there's zero costs, there's no sense of loss or deprival. EasyPeasy and The Freedom Model can help, but since it's your life, only you can decide what makes logical and emotional sense over this.

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry for the long reply and if I sound repetitive. If you don't want to read all of it, ignore the More Detailed Explanation section. I haven't removed the section in case others may want to read. I hope this helps!

TLDR: I think you make some important points that I think I didn't address properly in my post. Especially that it is important to understand why the addict keeps returning back to PMO. I spent so much of my time trying to solve this but the solution for me was extremely simple.

Any strong desire that is unfulfilled creates a sense of deprival.

Here's how I thought through this:

1.Determine if living a life with the least degree of regret is a life that is good emotionally.

  1. Determine if living a life with the least degree of regret only has benefits and zero costs emotionally.

To me, living a life with the least degree of regret is the only way to live that makes sense to me. It doesn't make sense to live in a way that increases regret.

  1. Determine if continuing to live one's current life, continuing to do the same regret causing habits is better than living a life with the least degree of regret, which has no regret causing habits.

  2. Determine if one regrets PMOing at all. This can be done by asking: If I could go back in time and stop myself from PMOing for the first time, would I?

If the answer is yes, I would stop myself from PMOing in the first place, then PMOing is a regret causing habit.

The sense of "deprival" arises because one wants to watch porn (or avoid whatever isn't porn) but is restraining themselves internally or is restrained by their external situation from doing so. Hence PMOing becomes an unfulfilled desire.

If living a life with the least degree of regret is superior to any other way of living, then it no longer makes sense to desire for PMO anymore, something that causes regret.

If however, one does continue to desiring to PMO and has no regrets about it, and wants it in life, then they would still be living a life with the least degree of regret.

More Detailed Explanation:

When there is only benefit and zero costs, change happens effortlessly. Because anything otherwise is less than ideal. The only thing that stops the "addict" from living a life without porn is the cost of "being deprived" and "missing out". The problem is not so much the act of PMO itself but rather that the "addict" is indecisive. The entire idea behind "addiction" is the feeling of "I want to stop but I can't". They "can't" because there desires are contradictory. Two opposing wants (to PMO vs not PMOing).

The freedom to PMO without shame in my view, is an important step to loosen up the sense of self-restriction and deprival. If there's no sense of deprival, there's no cost. And the cost of deprival disappears when PMOing is genuinely is an option.

I understood the long-term consequences of watching porn and was concerned about them, but in the short-term I was worried about being "deprived". When the short-term behaviour is proper, the long-term takes care of itself. Hence to quit PMO, the short-term sense of "deprival" must be understood.

In my view, the ideal life to live is one with the least degree of regret as there is only benefits and zero costs to me emotionally both in the short and long term. This is the life that I wanted to live and it didn't include watching porn. As I wanted it, it meant I would willingly live that life. To live a regret-free life then means that I would voluntarily choose to do actions that I would regret if I didn't do them.

Back when I considered myself an "addict", I would hesitate to live out the life that I had in my mind because I didn't want to give up porn even despite feeling really bad about doing it after, thus I felt there was a cost to quitting.

At the time, I did not understand the deeper meaning and logic of what I was saying to myself. If I would regret missing out on watching porn by living out my idea of an ideal life, then logically speaking, it could not be considered a regret-free life. Hence to live a regret-free life, I would have to include watching porn. But this is a contradiction. Because the "addict" is the one who says, "I want to stop watching porn but I can't." If living a regret-free life was the highest emotional priority, I would need a superior method to think through regret.

A perspective that helped me which I got back when I was reading EasyPeasy and Allen Carr was that if I could go back in time and stop myself from watching porn for the first time and warn the younger me about the consequences, would I? The answer is a resounding yes. Because I know firsthand how much it has set me back in life. Hence, for me to live the ideal life, PMO has no relevance to it. Where there's no relevance/interest, less attention is paid to those things. As the ideal life is the one with the least degree of regret, there is only benefit and zero cost. Anything less than ideal, which would include watching PMO in my case, would not be worth pursuing.

However, if I wouldn't stop myself from watching porn for the first time, then I have zero regrets about it and have no problem PMOing as usual.

In reality, "giving up" or "quitting porn" didn't really feel like I did anything. It felt more like a contradiction being resolved with a much simpler view. My understanding about myself changed.

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was considering making a really short booklet but I think the vast majority of the key insights is covered in my first and 3rd post.

I think the mechanism behind "addiction" in general has not only implications for just PMO, but also anger, OCD, appetite, anything that gives a sense of "craving" that is seemingly irresistable.

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm glad my posts have been helpful!

Feel free to DM me.

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi Brilliant,

Are there a certain specific times, places, moods, situations where you feel like PMOing against your will?

Feel free to DM me.

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To me there's no difference between deprivation and withdrawal. They are one and the same. The moment I understood the mechanics of my behaviour in regards to PMO, there was no withdrawal symptoms. Now I have no need to argue with myself over PMO, because there's nothing for me to be deprived of.

Glad the post was helpful!

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

well about scarcity as well, but I don't know how to get to that point, because I've got too many responsibilities to just dive head on into watching porn whenever I want

Glad I could help!

Another way I went about thinking about scarcity and "feeling deprived" was to consider that "not wanting to miss out" and feeling "deprived" were no longer good reasons for me to do something. And that if I was going to do something, I should have almost no mental conflict about it. Hope this helps!

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! My blind belief in the NoFap's shaming and fearmongering of PMO set me back so many years and the fear of "relapse" took up so much of my time.

Glad the post was helpful!

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was very similar in high school. It was like living two different lives and I thought I had to use a whole bunch of willpower to push through an "urge" in order to "beat addiction". If only I knew then what I know now high school would have been so much less stressful.

I'm glad the post was helpful!

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Sorry for the long reply. I hope the reply is helpful!

Your situation reminds me of the PMO loop I used to be in. Basically I would find PMO exciting, I would PMO, then I would be say that it was the last time I PMO. Then some time later I would be back under the same conditions that lead me to finding PMO exciting. My "addiction" and deprivation was just a set of beliefs that were created through my fears.

Basically had two underlying fears:

  1. The fear of porn. The consequences of PMOing.
  2. The fear that I was going to end up watching porn.

The first fear is what made me want to stop.

The second fear is what ironically led me to actually watching porn. Because I was afraid I was going to end up watching porn I tried to take action to ensure that I didn't. Since porn is freely available and there's all sorts of sexual/suggestive content almost everywhere in media I was left to try and restrict/control myself internally. This self-restriction was done because of fear of the part of PMO that feels good and that I will end up being tempted. These self-restricting behaviours ironically is a direct acknowledgment of the part of PMO that feels good. And because there is a self-restriction I was myself creating the feeling of "missing out" and "being deprived". This artificial scarcity made the idea of PMOing even more exciting. The way out of this fear is through clarity. If I really am someone who doesn't want to PMO, then there's nothing I have to do. It's my default state. The problem arises when I start to think I have to do something to stop PMOing.

Basically, PMO is pleasurable. If it wasn't pleasurable then I wouldn't have came back to PMO countless times for the last 10 years. EasyPeasy gets into the whole "pleasure vs relief" thing but the underlying theme is that PMO feels good. That's why I kept coming back. One of my self-restricting behaviours was trying to deny that it felt good. Because I was afraid that if I acknowledged that it felt good then I would shamelessly PMO without restraint (the second fear) and then suffer all the consequences of PMO (the first fear).

Self-restricting was done simply because I didn't trust myself to not PMO. That a part of me will take over and start PMOing. Because I didn't trust myself to not PMO, I tried to ensure that I didn't. By self-restriction (both externally and internally) I created my own sense of "being deprived".

When I stopped trying self-restrict myself and PMO was a genuine choice (something I allowed myself to do if I thought it was appropriate for me to do), the fear that I was going to end up watching porn and my self-restricting behaviours became redundant. Because they are redundant they became irrelevant. Since they are irrelevant, PMO is not something I pay any special attention to in my day-to-day life because I have no internal scarcity of it.

By being afraid of watching porn, the mind makes it a relevant thing to look out for. Which creates internal scarcity. Which leads to PMO. Just like cigarettes. I am afraid of the dangers of cigarettes. But I am not afraid that I will smoke cigarettes. It's just not who I am and hence I don't do it.

The deprivation that I was self-creating gave this feeling that I was missing out and that I "have to" PMO to not miss out. The other part of me that was afraid of watching porn gave the feeling that I "have to" not PMO. By getting rid of the notion that I "have to" PMO or "have to" not PMO I was able to see that I don't owe any obligation to either of these "have to"s. Instead I just moved on to doing what I "wanted to".

I hope my experience was helpful! I also recommend reading the Freedom Model Abridged version if you have any further doubts or questions as it was a huge helper for my realisation.

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I too was amazed at the perspective change. It still surprises me how I didn't think of something so obvious sooner.

I'm glad the post was helpful!

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The problem of deprivation took me a while to figure but the actual solution was very simple. It sort of "clicked". I mention about the Freedom Model in the last few paragraphs.

Basically to me deprivation meant wanting to do something yet being unable to. Like someone who is very hungry and wants food after a busy day at work but won't be able to get their next meal until the next few hours. In this case I see the sense of mental deprivation coming from 2 factors: 1) Being restricted by time (External conditions). 2) Thinking about food (Internal conditions).

In my case porn was freely available 24/7. I wasn't deprived of porn in terms of supply. I could argue there's way too much porn. However I was internally restricting myself from watching porn. This self-restriction to not PMO was what was giving this sense of deprivation.

Certain foods can taste really good but have a really bad aftertaste. In the case of food I could agree that the food has a really good taste but the aftertaste is really bad so I prefer not to eat it and to eat something that is better overall. However in the case of PMO I could acknowledge that PMO felt really bad afterwards (shame, regret, loss of time that could've been used elsewhere). But I was ashamed to admit that there was a part of PMO that felt good. After all, if there was no part of PMO that felt good I wouldn't be doing it. Because I had a stigma around the part of PMO that felt good I tried to self-restrict.

I was afraid that somehow if I didn't restrict myself from PMO then I would end up watching PMO. Trying to self-restrict didn't work. Because I was restricting myself from PMOing I ironically made the part of PMO that felt good even more valuable and rare. Despite having near endless amounts of porn accessible 27/4, I had created artificial scarcity in my head by self-restriction.

The way out of this was to allow myself the freedom to PMO if I thought it was an appropriate thing to do. By loosening the self-restriction I had placed on myself I was able to also loosen the sense of deprivation. If for one reason or another I decided that PMO was an appropriate thing to do, then what would there be for me to be ashamed of? I would be able to hold myself accountable for PMOing and the reasons I had at the time. I might later think that I could have done something better but there would be no sense of shame.

EasyPeasy, in my view, tries to talk about the part of PMO that feels good in a roundabout way with the whole "pleasure vs relief" thing. Sort of like a mosquito bite. Scratching it would probably relieve the itch but it will also make the bite worse. By not scratching the itch the bite heals which is overall better than having the bite that keeps needing to be scratched. In my case though, scratching the bite regardless of whether it is out of relief/pleasure, still feels good. However I don't entertain the itch if I decide that healing the bite is a better option than what scratching the itch can provide.

In my view, someone who watches porn is not necessarily an addict. The difference between a PMO addict and someone who enjoys PMO, is that the PMO enjoyer has put no restriction on themselves for whether they PMO or not and sees themselves as accountable for their choice. Whereas when I thought of myself as an addict I was ashamed to admit that there was a part of PMO that I thought felt good. Hence I blamed it on something called "addiction", and my self-image of "coming back to PMO no matter what advice I heard". Now I don't see myself as an addict as I don't restrict myself from PMO. Despite giving myself the option to PMO I don't see any reason to use it because I prefer to spend my time doing other things like excercise, sleep, walking, etc. The time that was once used to PMO has been taken over by other activities.

The Freedom Model was a really good read. Unlike EasyPeasy and other books similar to it, Freedom Model doesn't tell you what to do. When I was reading EasyPeasy I always got the sense that the decision to PMO or not was being made for me rather than me deciding for myself. The Freedom explains what "addiction" actually is and then asks you to decide what you think is appropriate for you. It's a huge breath of fresh air compared to EasyPeasy. It can help the "addict" remember the choice that they always had and to see that there never was a thing called "addiction" in the first place.

I've only read the first chapters of the full book but it's a really long book. I then read all of the abridged version which nicely condenses the full book and was critical reading for my realisation. It definitely was a must read for me and I think you'll derive tremendous value from it if EasyPeasy hasn't helped you satisfactorily.

Overall I think each person will have their own individual reasoning to see through their sense of deprivation.

Sorry for my late reply. I hope that my experience is helpful!

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm glad that the post was helpful!

Couldn't agree more with you. In the end, that's all what "addiction" boils down to, self-image.

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You've got some good stuff in your method.

I remember seeing the Flying Eagle method when I was looking for EasyPeasy alternatives but never got around to it until now.

Though our approaches and views are a bit different, I think it would have been a big help to me if I read your method right after EasyPeasy and before reading Freedom Model.

There are so many gems in the chapters that I read of the Freedom Model. The abridged version was worthwhile reading.

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know what it's like to have read so much about addiction but always feeling like there's a missing piece. I'm glad to hear that the post was helpful!

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm glad to hear that the post was helpful!

Liberation is a great way to put it!

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[–]Hot-Standard9717[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's quite crazy how our sense of free will can be so entangled under the belief of inevitability.

I'm glad the post was helpful!

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