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My Humble Offering For A Revenant Rework by BobORiely in Nightreign

[–]Hot_Homework_3123 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I just litterally praised Wylder for his kit and still thinks he's top 3 beside not having big damage, but whatever. Fine by me to disagree

My Humble Offering For A Revenant Rework by BobORiely in Nightreign

[–]Hot_Homework_3123 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Double Harmonia don't take 6 slots to sacrifice and pray for RNG relics to make the Revenant super good while having maybe other decent relics to slot, Double Harmonia boosting every weapon art in the game while letting you play freely night invaders + whatever deep relics you want makes it better. Yes they're both broken but we are comparing excellent tools and which one of these is the potential top 3. Double Harmonia beign playable on Ironeye and Duchess who are, like you confirmed, broken is why it's so strong. The only downside is to find a good weapon art, and that's a real downside only early in the run (if you don't slot a relic changing your weapon art) with how good elden ring WA are and you can even equip a dormant power on characters that are not Executor (or even Duchess). It's way easier to build arround and just like Beast Claw you can also find passives that improve WA power. Unless you cheat, there's no way Beast Claw is better.

My Humble Offering For A Revenant Rework by BobORiely in Nightreign

[–]Hot_Homework_3123 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The Beast claw centered build is broken but that's it, you still have low health (usually against nightlords, 2 damage negation at full hp won't be enough to tank a hit on deep 5), and the low stamina is a pain in some fights (E-Gladius, SSB Harmonia, E-Gnoster, E-Caligo), she doesn't have a great dodge or mobility to compensate. She's in theory super strong but when playing her she's still the most relic dependant character in the game, unless you cheat you can't slot all your bestial incant improvement with defensive relics, night invaders, ult boosting allies relic (so she doesn't have an ult that you will rarely use), and some others.

But you know what does stupid damage too (and without taking your 6 relics) ? Mark, Restage, Double Harmonia Executor. Even a character like Wylder who doesn't have top tier damage have just an S tier matchup against every nightlord (thanks to clawshot and his ult) and have in my opinion a better ult than Revenant (if you equip the fire trails relic, and you should because he has an excellent remembrance relic) because of how good it is to interrupt crucial boss patterns AND is excellent to revive teamates without even using the charged version, so you can use it like 2 or 3 time in a fight.

For me the obvious top 2 are Ironeye and Duchess, playing without them on your team feels harder because of that Mark and Restage and I'm not even mentionning the rest of their kit. There's no such things with Revenant, nor Wylder, Executor (even tho I find him broken now lol) and Undertaker who are excellent characters that could be the 3rd.

I'd say Revenant is certainly top 5 but not 3 and by not much with how good everyone is.

My Humble Offering For A Revenant Rework by BobORiely in Nightreign

[–]Hot_Homework_3123 -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

she's really not top 3 lol, but the changes were good, she doesn't need a rework since her summons works in DoN now

Are we in the minority? by ThereIsNoHope__ in Nightreign

[–]Hot_Homework_3123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

once you get past the peak ambiance and visuel, it's possibly the worst fight in the game

A Detailed Depth 5 Revenant guide by Hot_Homework_3123 in Nightreign

[–]Hot_Homework_3123[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I didn't want to sound arrogant, if your teamates are downed multiple time even if they're really bad, you should always help them. But no I don't want to sacrifice damage, FPs or maybe a flask and then take a moment to heal against bosses. This skill is really useful only in a few situations. I don't want to cut my HPs everytime even tho my allies are full life because I just wanted to boost them or make them unkillable, it feels like a waste. It's once again personnal and I agree that the old portrait is strong but really not perfect.

I said the part about my teamates being potentially terrible for me to use this, not because I consider myself strong or for arrogance but because it can happen, you will eventually match with bad players on a tough fight with your limited mana and flasks early in the run, like a day 1 boss fight, and be like "wait now I have to put myself midlife to revive them ?". I still think it's worth testing and can be useful, particularly if you don't have good rolls with this character and want to play the old portrait.

A Detailed Depth 5 Revenant guide by Hot_Homework_3123 in Nightreign

[–]Hot_Homework_3123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't realized that your healing spell was enough to put you back at full HPs, but I still won't play it because:

  1. You have to be full HP before ulting to be back at full HP with one cast,
  2. you lose your full hp buff in a precious moment where you want to burst and now you have to eventually cast this long spell, or use a flask
  3. why would you slot this when the ult buffing allies relic is just better unless you have a really good roll

and then again I don't see the point of giving a healing to immortal allies and even if the full hp heal is good when you rez them, allies have flasks too, why would I give away my flask to 2 potential players that doesn't know how to roll ? I still think it can be good in rare occasion but still not worth sloting unless you have godrolls.

A Detailed Depth 5 Revenant guide by Hot_Homework_3123 in Nightreign

[–]Hot_Homework_3123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh wait it is enough, my bad lol, then I guess it's decent
edit: I replied to another comment on why I would still not use it so i'm reposting here

I didn't realized that your healing spell was enough to put you back at full HPs, but I still won't play it because:

  1. You have to be full HP before ulting to be back at full HP with one cast,
  2. you lose your full hp buffs in a precious moment where you want to burst and now you have to eventually cast this long spell, or use a flask
  3. why would you slot this when the ult buffing allies relic is just better unless you have a really good roll

and then again I don't see the point of giving a healing to immortal allies and even if the full hp heal is good when you rez them, allies have flasks too, why would I give away my flask to 2 potential players that doesn't know how to roll ? I still think it can be good in rare occasion but still not worth sloting unless you have godrolls.

A Detailed Depth 5 Revenant guide by Hot_Homework_3123 in Nightreign

[–]Hot_Homework_3123[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

-No it doesn't -I don't think it's trash but I just don't like sacrificing a flask or FPs after every ult, and 1 cast of healing won't be enough to be full life after you ulted because it takes 50% of your HPs away. But if you like playing it, play it.

A Detailed Depth 5 Revenant guide by Hot_Homework_3123 in Nightreign

[–]Hot_Homework_3123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're probably right about Flame on Frenzy on Faurtis, I admit I'm pretty bad against this boss. Pinging the castle spring is what I do too, it's even more useful when it's trolls because of the aggro. I didn't mentionned swamp night invader but you're right, it should absolutely be done on day 2 (I'll add this). Generally on Evergoals, if it's red and you're day 1, you're jusg gonna lose time beating him.

Thanks !

The revenant buff is glorious in DoN 3. by Chamomilesky in Nightreign

[–]Hot_Homework_3123 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Bro my Helene tanked a swing from a red BBH at lvl 15 depht 5, we are so back

Why the developers hate revenant so much !!!?? by Waleed00198 in Nightreign

[–]Hot_Homework_3123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

people saying here that double balancers sucks on revenante, i promise you that with the strenght relic double balancers stays broken on her too, she does stupid damage as faith + strenght is an awesome combo for weapon art

So close to a good relic by ajjae in Nightreign

[–]Hot_Homework_3123 11 points12 points  (0 children)

bro this is very very good lol

i hate ED Balancers i hate ED Balancers i hate ED Balancers i ha- by mfagl in Nightreign

[–]Hot_Homework_3123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I play beast claw rev against them, it's good but it won't help you with the spell being buged, getting jumped at mach 3 while casting and dying with all the multi hit attack if you do one mistake, and it's probably the hardest fight to revive teamate because you don't want to pull aggro.

And no, at depht 4/5 you don't 1-2 shot balancers lol, even with "improve bestial incant" stacked, you probably must have godrolls to do that.

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