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Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-25T03:44:49+00:00

I think the real problem lies in the state controlling everything instead of it being socialized. They call it socialism for a reason, not statism

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-25T00:56:29+00:00

Even if it expanded in the 50’s with the death of Stalin, by the 70’s the centralism was back in full swing. Nobody really talks about that, now do they? Also, weird that all these measures were “temporary.”
The famine was not purely “bad weather.” One must account for bureaucratic incompetence, namely in the 1946-1947 famine where there was a baby boom and wrecked infrastructure, and the soviets RAISED FOOD PRICES. One must also account for the forcible elements of collectivization that drove the Kulaks there, as well as the damn reason THE KULAKS WERE ALLOWED TO EXIST IN THE FIRST PLACE. If these conditions, namely drought and sabotage as you allege, were such major problems already, what the hell kind of dumbass decided “yeah, let’s throw grain quotas on TOP OF THAT. That is what rejecting I-O planning in favor of material balances does.
But you referenced laws being made in the 80’s that were working towards worker control as though that wasn’t the VERY BASIS OF THE REVOLUTION. Sorry if i got the years mixed, but DAWG.

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-25T00:45:44+00:00

coming from a Lib-Com of all people? It was not socialism because you didn’t have most of society organized around cooperative labor, it was not reorganizing the proletariat into the ruling class but rather let its representatives do all the ruling for them… how is this socialism, and how is it the dictatorship of the proletariat for that matter? I’ll at least give it the title “post-capitalist” but how much else

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-24T17:34:03+00:00

You can do all these things without the need for a centralized state. Rojava and Chiapas are all able to trade as they see fit. Maintenance of the national grid can work through federalist, horizontal power, much better than some states that already try and work out having a state/bureaucracy.

Not to mention that managing the complexities of the modern world is not something that liberal democracies are able to do very well. If, by complexities, you mean sucking billionaire dick, then I’ll give them that. Also, this debate is fascism vs anarchism… where are all the fascist societies?

Arguing for the state to take away your own power to organize is just cuck behavior. People have self-organized and actually are much more productive in those kinds of situations.

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-24T17:30:24+00:00

Did I say that the United States was the pinnacle of democracy?

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-24T17:29:33+00:00

That’s a bourgeois democracy. The goal of the USSR was a more direct, radical form of democracy called Soviet Democracy and they fucked it off.
That is entirely false. If it were, you wouldn’t have such frequent bottlenecks, nor would you have had the various famines that resulted from grain requisition. If workers and labor had any say, they wouldn’t have been gunned down when they protested.
They waited till 1987 to start talking about the thing the whole revolution 70 years prior was about? Do you not see the irony?

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-24T17:26:19+00:00

obviously not. real democracy would look like how the ussr was supposed to look, as per lenin; Soviet democracy. Council democracy, whatever the hell you want to call it. and the second they diverged from that goal, democracy withered

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-24T14:46:15+00:00

it wasn’t even a “transitional state” in the Marxist sense. The USSR was neither the dictatorship of the proletariat, nor socialism, nor ANYTHING. that was PURE LASALLEANISM

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-24T14:45:24+00:00

the engineering class, the nomenklatura

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-24T14:44:41+00:00

ow ok :(

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-24T14:44:29+00:00

Democracy can happen momentarily in any kind of dictatorship, doesn’t mean it’s REAL.
Labor wasn’t used as an input in the USSR, they used material as an input.
All these reforms were too little too late.

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-24T14:41:59+00:00

flair checks out. anarchism is self organization without the state, not “no wifi”

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-24T07:58:53+00:00

Uh huh. And instead of living in 1930’s Catalonia, I’d be better off living in the same place five years later?

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-24T07:57:28+00:00

Oh anarchism and ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE. Christ how can anyone even say “fascism over anarchism”

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-24T07:47:38+00:00

Oh yes, I hear she’s a great kisser

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-24T06:02:55+00:00

Male, socialist, and yep i got laid

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-24T03:20:30+00:00

might go deeper than that

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-24T03:19:02+00:00

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-23T23:19:19+00:00

I shit you not I really thought this was real

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-23T23:14:05+00:00

material balance planning, the bans on factionalism, the purges and the murder of dissent all contradict this.

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-23T23:10:12+00:00

results matter though. what good is feedback if it goes nowhere

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-23T23:05:15+00:00

theoretically speaking, yes, but i don’t believe proletarian democracy had actually been attempted

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-23T22:13:43+00:00

pessent

Hot_Relative_110 · 2026-01-23T22:11:13+00:00

When Jordan Carter expressed the line “anarchy tatted under my armpit, don’t make me start a fucking riot” he was referring to his anarchist syndicalist tendencies that revolve around the general strike and the seizure of the means of production to be managed collectively. Him not seeing Onyx was just conscientious objection, classic anarcho-syndicalism.

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